"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[TysonWine]

Is the new thing here at Kanzenshuu to hate on Caulifla to a startling degree? Some of you sound like you have a vendetta against a fictional character just because she's arrogant/cocky.

Just ignore the haters. I imagine that to a large degree there are a lot of fans who might be under 12 or really immature teenagers but I can also imagine that there are a lot of fans who are in their 20's like me who are just really that pathetic.
I like the character of Caulifla, so long as I enjoy the story it works for and I've enjoyed every moment of Super so far, a lot of these man children can't stand the idea of a female character having any relevance.

Interesting. Do you mind telling us what we can't like without being a "hater, immature teenager, or pathetic?"

The idea that I like something and I need everyone else to like it, that way I feel correct for liking it, else something is wrong with the people who disagree, comes from an insecure mind. When it leads to insulting people that insecurity becomes immaturity.

You like the character, and have enjoyed EVERY moment of Super so far, that's fine. Mature adults understand that it's okay for people to have different opinions. Do you know how easy it would be to turn that into a You lack standards rant. I'm sure you've seen it before.

The same way we let people like what they like, we should let people dislike what they dislike.

[Totamo]

If Caulifla goes blue, I won't stop watching but I won't defend anymore.



Super saiyan is fine, super saiyan 2 is a bit of a stretch but Gotenks went 3 so thats fine.


Blue? Nah.....

The problem is not if she goes blue, but rather the amount of time it takes her to transform. If Caulifla gets ssb in several minutes, then super would go full retard.

She won't guys..
Thinking about it logically it's pretty obvious of an outcome she won't get it in the tournament at the very least..

I'm 99% sure she won't.

[omaro34]

How come none of the angels question why there are two versions of Zeno? We never seen it on screen but it probably did happen. But it is something strange why they haven't really explored it.

The Grand Priest said he came from the future in the Zen matches.

Thanks for reminding me. Completely forgot about that.

[aravinthan]

The problem is not if she goes blue, but rather the amount of time it takes her to transform. If Caulifla gets ssb in several minutes, then super would go full retard.

She won't guys..
Thinking about it logically it's pretty obvious of an outcome she won't get it in the tournament at the very least..

I'm 99% sure she won't.

She will go blue definitely but not within this 48 min tournament. Every spoilers and leaks never had a info about she going blue or god it just had info of [spoiler]kale going SS berserker just because Kalifa is interested in Goku, requesting him to TEACH HOW to go blue[/spoiler]

[Ki Breaker]

Goku now that he has seen a universe get destroyed right infront of him, should let her know he has no intentions of teaching her anything mid battle...
She said the same thing to him while he was being a gentleman and greeting her..

Vegeta was also attacking universe 6, if they are going that route I doubt Vegeta or any other members would let goku teach her anyway..

[Simere]

Goku now that he has seen a universe get destroyed right infront of him, should let her know he has no intentions of teaching her anything mid battle...
She said the same thing to him while he was being a gentleman and greeting her..

Vegeta was also attacking universe 6, if they are going that route I doubt Vegeta or any other members would let goku teach her anyway..

Unless the previews are wrong, we know for sure he'll start teaching her something. One of them has the line that Caulifla will be "engrossed in the training".

[SansrivaaL]

I got the leaks covered man.
The Super Saiyan Cauli witnesses firsthand the power of Blue! Moved by its strength, she asks her enemy Goku to teach her how to transform into it, but? Goku slaps her hand and tells her Fuck off, so no SSJB training this arc.

[BlueBasilisk]

Boy that didn't take long. I was expecting this salty reaction next week, not today.

Goku now that he has seen a universe get destroyed right infront of him, should let her know he has no intentions of teaching her anything mid battle...
She said the same thing to him while he was being a gentleman and greeting her..

Well the tv guide summaries say that Kale gets pissed off because Caulifla is so focused on training so it seems like he's going to start at least. And it's not like Goku was even offended when she did that. If anything he just seemed excited by her desire to fight. The fandom got way more pissy about her attitude than he did and Goku's not the type to hold a grudge over something that petty. This is the same guy who let Vegeta walk after most of his friends were murdered and his planet almost blown up just for the sake of his battle boner.

[RedHeat]

I got the leaks covered man.
The Super Saiyan Cauli witnesses firsthand the power of Blue! Moved by its strength, she asks her enemy Goku to teach her how to transform into it, but? Goku slaps her hand and tells her Fuck off, so no SSJB training this arc.

Why are people so angry she did that? I would do the same thing, the dude's a psychopath and too dangerous to keep alive. Beerus should've taken him out out instead of hesitating.

[SansrivaaL]

I got the leaks covered man.
The Super Saiyan Cauli witnesses firsthand the power of Blue! Moved by its strength, she asks her enemy Goku to teach her how to transform into it, but? Goku slaps her hand and tells her Fuck off, so no SSJB training this arc.

Why are people so angry she did that? I would do the same thing, the dude's a psychopath and too dangerous to keep alive. Beerus should've taken him out out instead of hesitating.

Dunno but for me I'm not exactly angry she did that slap, but more into the typical troupe where she looks like an idiot for belittling them before even seeing how they fight, I mean I also didnt like it when Goku on BoG movie was cocky and went "if you want I can revert back to SSJ2" so I was happy after Beerus put him in his place. Its a matter of perspective, I dont like characters belittling another when they dont know shit what they be talkin about (unless the character is more than talk and can actually back it up, I still wouldnt like it tho, Cauli not being able to back up what she's saying just makes it worst, she raised a job flag) and are full of themselves, I prefer the cocky smirky silent ones than the cocky noisy bitchy ones. About the slap thing it was sort of an attack and I remember Goku having a knack for an eye for an eye, I can imagine him doing the same slap and say "now we're even" or better yet, bite her hand like he did Whis.
About the Goku psycopath comment... I'm not getting into another debate about that and how wrong people are for thinking so. I agree about the Beerus part tho, he shoulda hakai'd Goku's ass and be done with it, I would have enjoyed a Goku V Beerus again than this multiversal tournament.

[HeroR]

Dunno but for me I'm not exactly angry she did that slap, but more into the typical troupe where she looks like an idiot for belittling them before even seeing how they fight, I mean I also didnt like it when Goku on BoG movie was cocky and went "if you want I can revert back to SSJ2" so I was happy after Beerus put him in his place. Its a matter of perspective, I dont like characters belittling another when they dont know shit what they be talkin about (unless the character is more than talk and can actually back it up, I still wouldnt like it tho, Cauli not being able to back up what she's saying just makes it worst, she raised a job flag) and are full of themselves, I prefer the cocky smirky silent ones than the cocky noisy bitchy ones. About the slap thing it was sort of an attack and I remember Goku having a knack for an eye for an eye, I can imagine him doing the same slap and say "now we're even" or better yet, bite her hand like he did Whis.
About the Goku psycopath comment... I'm not getting into another debate about that and how wrong people are for thinking so. I agree about the Beerus part tho, he shoulda hakai'd Goku's ass and be done with it, I would have enjoyed a Goku V Beerus again than this multiversal tournament.

Goku is only really petty towards people who beat him. Not people who are rude to him.

[MainJPW]

Why are people so angry she did that? I would do the same thing, the dude's a psychopath and too dangerous to keep alive. Beerus should've taken him out out instead of hesitating.

Cauli slapping Goku's hand reminded me of when Kuririn elbowed Goku in the face at the 22nd Budokai for being too friendly mid-match, why should we expect her to friendly when she has to fight for her survival?

If this is people's reaction to a hand slap I wonder what it would be like if she slapped his face instead.

[Ki Breaker]

Her being engrossed in training spoiler slipped my mind..
There goes that hope

I got the leaks covered man.
The Super Saiyan Cauli witnesses firsthand the power of Blue! Moved by its strength, she asks her enemy Goku to teach her how to transform into it, but? Goku slaps her hand and tells her Fuck off, so no SSJB training this arc.

Yes, this is true karma right here..
Now that i know Cauliflowa will be training mid freaking battle and every other contestant is gonna play cards until thats done, gut punching her to oblivion seems like a good way to start blues training, Blue is what goku and Vegeta achieved in the entire super and whis training was absolute hell, no other way for her to experience that other than getting the pounding first hand..

On a serious note, I wonder how will she approach Goku for this
Apologetic? All hey that was awesome teach me too like nothing happened between them before or straight up like a bitch and be hey universe 7 Saiyan know your place and teach me how to do that all the while screaming on him

[SansrivaaL]

On a serious note, I wonder how will she approach Goku for this
Apologetic? All hey that was awesome teach me too like nothing happened between them before or straight up like a bitch and be hey universe 7 Saiyan know your place and teach me how to do that all the while screaming on him

The same way she approached Cabba when she was all wakuwaku and went all over his face with that "Hey! teach me that! NA NA NA!!?!"

[Ki Breaker]

On a serious note, I wonder how will she approach Goku for this
Apologetic? All hey that was awesome teach me too like nothing happened between them before or straight up like a bitch and be hey universe 7 Saiyan know your place and teach me how to do that all the while screaming on him

The same way she approached Cabba when she was all wakuwaku and went all over his face with that "Hey! teach me that! NA NA NA!!?!"
[spoiler][/spoiler]

She lucked out real good she asked Goku, after she insulted universe 7 Saiyans if she had the nerve to do this with vegeta.. that face she is bringing this close wouldn't be attached to her body anymore

[TheMikado]

On a serious note, I wonder how will she approach Goku for this
Apologetic? All hey that was awesome teach me too like nothing happened between them before or straight up like a bitch and be hey universe 7 Saiyan know your place and teach me how to do that all the while screaming on him

The same way she approached Cabba when she was all wakuwaku and went all over his face with that "Hey! teach me that! NA NA NA!!?!"
[spoiler][/spoiler]

She lucked out real good she asked Goku, after she insulted universe 7 Saiyans if she had the nerve to do this with vegeta.. that face she is bringing this close wouldn't be attached to her body anymore

The difference between this and Cabba is that Cabba actually needed her waaay more than Caulifa needed him. In this circumstance it's actually running counter to Goku needs right now.

After all the cries of "Goku doesn't care about strangers he doesn't know" and Goku running off because he "can't help fighting stronger opponents", he better have a damn good reason for taking the time out to teach her. Like the reason better be he's hoping to team up with her to fight some of the other universes.

[Ki Breaker]

The same way she approached Cabba when she was all wakuwaku and went all over his face with that "Hey! teach me that! NA NA NA!!?!"
[spoiler][/spoiler]

She lucked out real good she asked Goku, after she insulted universe 7 Saiyans if she had the nerve to do this with vegeta.. that face she is bringing this close wouldn't be attached to her body anymore

The difference between this and Cabba is that Cabba actually needed her waaay more than Caulifa needed him. In this circumstance it's actually running counter to Goku needs right now.

After all the cries of "Goku doesn't care about strangers he doesn't know" and Goku running off because he "can't help fighting stronger opponents", he better have a damn good reason for taking the time out to teach her. Like the reason better be he's hoping to team up with her to fight some of the other universes.

This is exactly why I put forward the theory of him not teaching her, but for some odd reason it's actually happening..

Dosen't make sense, none at all..
Unless it's about Goku's Saiyan nature once again and this is him planting the seed in her so she can give him a good fight..

Damn.. goku nearly sounds like a villain here,
I shall give you this power weakling, try to beat me now, if you have the balls that is

[SansrivaaL]

After all the cries of "Goku doesn't care about strangers he doesn't know" and Goku running off because he "can't help fighting stronger opponents", he better have a damn good reason for taking the time out to teach her. Like the reason better be he's hoping to team up with her to fight some of the other universes.

This is Goku we're talking about, he would train her in a heartbeat if he knows it'll give him a challenge, when he finds out she learned to transform into a SSJ and SSJ2 in less than a day you can bet he would see that she has potential and would go "Alright I'll teach you, in exchange fight me with full power when you transform"

She lucked out real good she asked Goku, after she insulted universe 7 Saiyans if she had the nerve to do this with vegeta.. that face she is bringing this close wouldn't be attached to her body anymore

Right? Her gut feeling sensation probably told her "Go for the guy in the orange, he's stronger" or she knows Vegeta isnt really the right person to ask since... she just saw how Vegeta was pissed at her comment while Goku didnt give 2 fucks, surely she knows now that SSJB can take her out like an ant so going to the guy you just pissed off isnt really the way to go
The one time I hoped Gohan wasnt there to stop him, Vegeta was about to tear her in more ways than Vegeto did Super Boo.

[Ki Breaker]

The one time I hoped Gohan wasnt there to stop him, Vegeta was about to tear her in more ways than Vegeto did Super Boo.

Yeah..
Dammit gohan..

It's okay, there is still hope of vegeta going after her once she is done training or better yet mid training, he is targeting universe 6 and she is an easy picking..

She needs to be beat by someone and it being a Saiyan would be best, only options are Vegeta, Gohan and Goku, my personal favorite scenario would be goku teaching her and then ringing her out himself, with an explanation of him teaching her because it would have been her last training..
But Goku's too soft to do something like that..

[MagmonKai]

I got the leaks covered man.
The Super Saiyan Cauli witnesses firsthand the power of Blue! Moved by its strength, she asks her enemy Goku to teach her how to transform into it, but? Goku slaps her hand and tells her Fuck off, so no SSJB training this arc.

Kale sees Goku slap her hand and gets super pissed and becomes Beserker Kale!