"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[TheMikado]

After all the cries of "Goku doesn't care about strangers he doesn't know" and Goku running off because he "can't help fighting stronger opponents", he better have a damn good reason for taking the time out to teach her. Like the reason better be he's hoping to team up with her to fight some of the other universes.

This is Goku we're talking about, he would train her in a heartbeat if he knows it'll give him a challenge, when he finds out she learned to transform into a SSJ and SSJ2 in less than a day you can bet he would see that she has potential and would go "Alright I'll teach you, in exchange fight me with full power when you transform"

Because this is exactly the thing he should be worrying about right now... The life lessons he's learn from back in the Cell games mean nothing I guess.

This is exactly why I put forward the theory of him not teaching her, but for some odd reason it's actually happening..

Dosen't make sense, none at all..
Unless it's about Goku's Saiyan nature once again and this is him planting the seed in her so she can give him a good fight..

Damn.. goku nearly sounds like a villain here,
I shall give you this power weakling, try to beat me now, if you have the balls that is

It makes sense if you want to sell merchandise and toys.

There's literally two problems with this. 1) She shouldn't be able to go straight to SSB having just learned about SSJ a few hours ago... 2) Even if should had the capability there's no way Goku should be training her in this situation of all they could be in right now.

Like I said I can let it pass if they have a damn good reason for it.

[Ki Breaker]

It makes sense if you want to sell merchandise and toys.

The thing is, if cauliflowa gets blue, it will be because toriyama wanted her to..
He cares about his story and the only reason everyone dosen't have all the transformations right now is because toriyama didn't want them to have them..

Addition of a god character isn't a light thing, managing that character afterwards will be Toriyamas job, I doubt he will just add something like that to his story Without having plot in mind first

[omaro34]

Kinda crazy how episode 100 is right around the corner, many thought Super wouldn't last that long as we approach this milestone. Felt like yesterday it surpassed GT's number of episodes which is 64. The good news is that Super doesn't appear to be stopping anytime soon. As long as the revenue is coming in, there's no reason to.

[emperior]

Kinda crazy how episode 100 is right around the corner, many thought Super wouldn't last that long as we approach this milesone. Felt like yesterday it surpassed GT's number of episodes which is 64. The good news is that Super doesn't appear to be stopping anytime soon. As long as the revenue is coming in, there's no reason to.

At this point I'm quite sure Super will have more than 150 episodes.

[BlueBasilisk]

Kinda crazy how episode 100 is right around the corner, many thought Super wouldn't last that long as we approach this milesone. Felt like yesterday it surpassed GT's number of episodes which is 64. The good news is that Super doesn't appear to be stopping anytime soon. As long as the revenue is coming in, there's no reason to.

At this point I'm quite sure Super will have more than 150 episodes.

If the interest keeps up I'm sure it can pass OGDB's episode total and maybe even Z's. But I feel like any continuation past the End of Z will be rebranded for a fresh start.

[omaro34]

Kinda crazy how episode 100 is right around the corner, many thought Super wouldn't last that long as we approach this milesone. Felt like yesterday it surpassed GT's number of episodes which is 64. The good news is that Super doesn't appear to be stopping anytime soon. As long as the revenue is coming in, there's no reason to.

At this point I'm quite sure Super will have more than 150 episodes.

I'll go out on a limb and say 200 plus. Given how slow the recruiting and training process for the tournament was, coupled with this 1 minute per episode thing the tournament seemed to start out with, (even though that was just the first episode), I think the tournament itself will go another 20 or so episodes. I'm anticipating that another arc will build itself from the tournament with a new villain being introduced.

Toriyama used to be an improvised story teller back in the day from what I read, and since the man rarely does any interviews and likes to keep to himself, I don't know if that's the case now.

[TheMikado]

It makes sense if you want to sell merchandise and toys.

The thing is, if cauliflowa gets blue, it will be because toriyama wanted her to..
He cares about his story and the only reason everyone dosen't have all the transformations right now is because toriyama didn't want them to have them..

Addition of a god character isn't a light thing, managing that character afterwards will be Toriyamas job, I doubt he will just add something like that to his story Without having plot in mind first

Yet we have SSBxKKx10 and SSG Vegeta and SSJ Black and SSJ Rage Trunks and the amazing Toei creation of LSSJ/Berserker. There's already been a standard set of Toei/Toyo forms making it into the story even in this arc alone. I think you're projecting that Toriyama cares much much more than he actually does.

[Basako]

The good thing about this, it could bring us some light about how the SSB works.

We don't even know how Vegeta obtained the SSB, if he had to go through the SSG like Goku did or not. Or maybe it's just by focusing in a tingling sensation in the ass... let's say head.

[Ki Breaker]

It makes sense if you want to sell merchandise and toys.

The thing is, if cauliflowa gets blue, it will be because toriyama wanted her to..
He cares about his story and the only reason everyone dosen't have all the transformations right now is because toriyama didn't want them to have them..

Addition of a god character isn't a light thing, managing that character afterwards will be Toriyamas job, I doubt he will just add something like that to his story Without having plot in mind first

Yet we have SSBxKKx10 and SSG Vegeta and SSJ Black and SSJ Rage Trunks and the amazing Toei creation of LSSJ/Berserker. There's already been a standard set of Toei/Toyo forms making it into the story even in this arc alone. I think you're projecting that Toriyama cares much much more than he actually does.

Now now, no need to go the extra mile and say I am projecting stuff, I believe you to be capable enough to understand my intentions here..
Blue is an important form and whether or not a character gets it in a particular setting is vital to the story..

[Noah]

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Edit: Herms's translation.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Don't do that Toei! F*** Caulifla! I want see someone mentioning Broly when Kale go BERSERK!

[GodVegetto91]

Okay guys, what do you think about this!? A pretty major thing right!? Though i wonder why he asked "The Voice of Piccolo" about "Vegeta"...

So Vegeta may have his revenge against Hit. I can easily see that happening to give Vegeta fans something major and great BEFORE he loses and utterly jobs to Jiren, because we all know how dragon ball works by now.

[BlueBasilisk]

The good thing about this, it could bring us some light about how the SSB works.

We don't even know how Vegeta obtained the SSB, if he had to go through the SSG like Goku did or not. Or maybe it's just by focusing in a tingling sensation in the ass... let's say head.

I think he was offered the form before he went to Planet Beerus but refused to get it since it wasn't good enough to win.

[perucho1990]

It could mean either Vegeta vs Botamo/Magetta is the excited fight he was talking about on twitter OR we might get Vegeta vs Hit in episode 104(he confirmed on twitter he also wrote episode 104)

[dragonballhero]

I got the leaks covered man.
The Super Saiyan Cauli witnesses firsthand the power of Blue! Moved by its strength, she asks her enemy Goku to teach her how to transform into it, but? Goku slaps her hand and tells her Fuck off, so no SSJB training this arc.

Why are people so angry she did that? I would do the same thing, the dude's a psychopath and too dangerous to keep alive. Beerus should've taken him out out instead of hesitating.

Dunno but for me I'm not exactly angry she did that slap, but more into the typical troupe where she looks like an idiot for belittling them before even seeing how they fight, I mean I also didnt like it when Goku on BoG movie was cocky and went "if you want I can revert back to SSJ2" so I was happy after Beerus put him in his place. Its a matter of perspective, I dont like characters belittling another when they dont know shit what they be talkin about (unless the character is more than talk and can actually back it up, I still wouldnt like it tho, Cauli not being able to back up what she's saying just makes it worst, she raised a job flag) and are full of themselves, I prefer the cocky smirky silent ones than the cocky noisy bitchy ones. About the slap thing it was sort of an attack and I remember Goku having a knack for an eye for an eye, I can imagine him doing the same slap and say "now we're even" or better yet, bite her hand like he did Whis.
About the Goku psycopath comment... I'm not getting into another debate about that and how wrong people are for thinking so. I agree about the Beerus part tho, he shoulda hakai'd Goku's ass and be done with it, I would have enjoyed a Goku V Beerus again than this multiversal tournament.

Not going to lie, this right here is what made me have a bad first impression with Videl during her first appearance.

[Lord Beerus]

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Edit: Herms's translation.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Don't do that Toei! F*** Caulifla! I want see someone mentioning Broly when Kale go BERSERK!

I certain that the whole "Caulifla training to attain SSJB" is a bait-and-switch angle that will ultimately lead to nothing. Super is notorious for misleading preview summaries for future episodes.

[Ki Breaker]

I want see someone mentioning Broly when Kale go BERSERK!

I'll do it for ya!
IT'S BROLY, EVERYONE..

Broly ain't turning canon, no way

[alakazam^]

Just for the record, I asked Toshio some questions:

Are the angels brothers and sisters/Grand Priest's children?
Did future Trunks have God ki in his transformation or was that just a flashy version of Super Saiyajin?
Is Toriyama writing the next story or will Super end?

He just said they were all difficult to answer. Well, I'm not implying something is happening in the backstage because I'd assume he either doesn't know or isn't allowed to talk about certain stuff but I found it strange he wouldn't even address the angels' bit, since we are somewhat safely guessing they are all related to the Grande Priest like Whis and Vados are.

[Ki Breaker]

I really want to know the trunks bit..
Other questions we at least have some idea about..

[perucho1990]

I certain that the whole "Caulifla training to attain SSJB" is a bait-and-switch angle that will ultimately lead to nothing. Super is notorious for misleading preview summaries for future episodes.

Like Mirai Trunks right?

The only bait and switch I remember was Tenshinhan who was supposed to show new techniques in the tag team match yet all he did was jobbing.

[Lord Beerus]

I certain that the whole "Caulifla training to attain SSJB" is a bait-and-switch angle that will ultimately lead to nothing. Super is notorious for misleading preview summaries for future episodes.

Like Mirai Trunks right?

The only bait and switch I remember was Tenshinhan who was supposed to show new techniques in the tag team match yet all he did was jobbing.

The were constantly misleading us throughout the Future Trunks arc and for a good portion of the Champa arc.