Freeza9000 wrote:
How would Freeza kill the Zenos though?
Guess it's that "Zeno's are a glass cannon" suggestion from way back. Like they can destroy easily, but they're a bit fragile, hence the need for bodyguards to begin with.
If they were fragile, then how did the guy even survive a multiversal destruction?
Let's go with he's immune to his own power excuse.
He devolved into saying only one word. Time to hit the ol' cosmic trail.
Freeza9000 wrote:
How would Freeza kill the Zenos though?
Guess it's that "Zeno's are a glass cannon" suggestion from way back. Like they can destroy easily, but they're a bit fragile, hence the need for bodyguards to begin with.
If they were fragile, then how did the guy even survive a multiversal destruction?
Exactly ! If that was the case then either GODS even the grand priest if he was evil would've killed him along time. ago
I wonder what 17 has been up to. they haven't been promoting him much lately. We saw him go on his own and fight but we haven't seen him since. He didn't appear last episode too. At least we have an idea what Gohan's group was doing; probably still in the formation.
perucho1990 wrote:If Daishinkan truly attached to Zeno then its a way to give him a weakness without nerfing him to set up tension(in case lets say Freeza kills the Zenos which would make Daishinkan obsolete).
How would Freeza kill the Zenos though?
Guess it's that "Zeno's are a glass cannon" suggestion from way back. Like they can destroy easily, but they're a bit fragile, hence the need for bodyguards to begin with.
That still wouldn't work since Zeno tanked his own multiverse nuke.
omaro34 wrote:I wonder what 17 has been up to. they haven't been promoting him much lately. We saw him go on his own and fight but we haven't seen him since. He didn't appear last episode too. At least we have an idea what Gohan's group was doing; probably still in the formation.
His hype seemed to have died down the moment Freeza entered the scene.
Dragonballgod19 wrote:
If that's true then no wonder he gets special treatment
That's pretty easy to translate so here you go.
Zeno/Daishinkan: master and servant
Beerus/Whis: master and servant
Shin/Kibito: master and servant
Gowasu/Zamasu: teacher and student
Zeno/Goku: friends
Whis/Goku and Vegeta: teacher and students
Goku/Vegeta: rivals
Vegeta/Trunkses: father and son
Kid Trunks/Kid Mai: boyfriend and girlfriend
Future Trunks/Future Mai: companions
Goku/Black: ?
Black/Zamasu:
This is what I got from/a/ so far, if this is truth, then I think Daishinkan wont be able to do anything if someone kills Zeno, and now it starting to make sense why Zeno has bodyguards.
Yeah and why are they still calling goku and vegeta rivals seriously it's obvious both of them don't see each other like that anymore
More like Toei don't see them like that anymore. Toyotaro keeps Vegeta in the race, but Toei have Goku spam SSB Kaioken with little consequence. And word is they're giving Goku another level on top of that. Toei only keep Vegeta strong enough to Worf Effect him. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/M ... WorfEffect
Which requires raising fan hopes before the traditional curb stomp. If the fans hopes aren't raised first, people just say that the villain defeated a loser. Big deal. Right now they're building Vegeta's cred back up again after the long hiatus in order to feed it to Goku. It won't be against Hit, as they won't repeat themselves with HIt crushing Vegeta again. Either against Jiran or Toppo.
This is what I got from/a/ so far, if this is truth, then I think Daishinkan wont be able to do anything if someone kills Zeno, and now it starting to make sense why Zeno has bodyguards.
Yeah and why are they still calling goku and vegeta rivals seriously it's obvious both of them don't see each other like that anymore
More like Toei don't see them like that anymore. Toyotaro keeps Vegeta in the race, but Toei have Goku spam SSB Kaioken with little consequence. And word is they're giving Goku another level on top of that. Toei only keep Vegeta strong enough to Worf Effect him. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/M ... WorfEffect
Which requires raising fan hopes before the traditional curb stomp. If the fans hopes aren't raised first, people just say that the villain defeated a loser. Big deal. Right now they're building Vegeta's cred back up again after the long hiatus in order to feed it to Goku. It won't be against Hit, as they won't repeat themselves with HIt crushing Vegeta again. Either against Jiran or Toppo.
The manga just had Goku use Hakai. I see that in a similar light to what youre saying about the anime.
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TBMx wrote:
More like Toei don't see them like that anymore. Toyotaro keeps Vegeta in the race, but Toei have Goku spam SSB Kaioken with little consequence. And word is they're giving Goku another level on top of that. Toei only keep Vegeta strong enough to Worf Effect him. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/M ... WorfEffect
Which requires raising fan hopes before the traditional curb stomp. If the fans hopes aren't raised first, people just say that the villain defeated a loser. Big deal. Right now they're building Vegeta's cred back up again after the long hiatus in order to feed it to Goku. It won't be against Hit, as they won't repeat themselves with HIt crushing Vegeta again. Either against Jiran or Toppo.
Well..... When was the last Vegeta did not get jobbed to the main antagonist?
Also lets be glad Kale was the first one that jobbed to Jiren and not Vegeta or Hit.
TBMx wrote:
More like Toei don't see them like that anymore. Toyotaro keeps Vegeta in the race, but Toei have Goku spam SSB Kaioken with little consequence. And word is they're giving Goku another level on top of that. Toei only keep Vegeta strong enough to Worf Effect him. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/M ... WorfEffect
Which requires raising fan hopes before the traditional curb stomp. If the fans hopes aren't raised first, people just say that the villain defeated a loser. Big deal. Right now they're building Vegeta's cred back up again after the long hiatus in order to feed it to Goku. It won't be against Hit, as they won't repeat themselves with HIt crushing Vegeta again. Either against Jiran or Toppo.
Well..... When was the last Vegeta did not get jobbed to the main antagonist?
Also lets be glad Kale was the first one that jobbed to Jiren and not Vegeta or Hit.
I'm pretty sure vegeta will beat hit like he said they won't repeat themselves I'm 100% sure he will lose to jiren especially since he's the second strongest
Akyon wrote:Guess it's that "Zeno's are a glass cannon" suggestion from way back. Like they can destroy easily, but they're a bit fragile, hence the need for bodyguards to begin with.
I really like this theory and I think it's true. If Zeno was all strong by himself why he would need two Bodyguards near him and the Grand Priest as his attendant?
Lapislettuce wrote:I hope Caulifla goes SSB! She's becoming my favorite based on how she's making the fan base so angry
Noah wrote:I want see someone mentioning Broly when Kale go BERSERK!
I'll do it for ya!
IT'S BROLY, EVERYONE.. Broly ain't turning canon, no way
Nah, both Super and Broly movies are non-canon, so that's not a issue. I would like Broly to be mentioned, because it would be quite amusing, but probably won't happen though.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
Spoiler:
Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
TBMx wrote:More like Toei don't see them like that anymore. Toyotaro keeps Vegeta in the race, but Toei have Goku spam SSB Kaioken with little consequence. And word is they're giving Goku another level on top of that. Toei only keep Vegeta strong enough to Worf Effect him. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/M ... WorfEffect
Toei didn't have Goku start using SSBKK regularly till this arc, while Toyotaro is still in the Black arc; if you were to actually compare the two arcs directly then Goku is going to walk away from it much stronger in Toyotaro's version. Meanwhile people believe Vegeta is stronger in SSB than Goku to this day because of how Toei handled it.
Dragonballgod19 wrote:
I'm pretty sure vegeta will beat hit like he said they won't repeat themselves I'm 100% sure he will lose to jiren especially since he's the second strongest
TBMx wrote:More like Toei don't see them like that anymore. Toyotaro keeps Vegeta in the race, but Toei have Goku spam SSB Kaioken with little consequence. And word is they're giving Goku another level on top of that. Toei only keep Vegeta strong enough to Worf Effect him. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/M ... WorfEffect
Toei didn't have Goku start using SSBKK regularly till this arc, while Toyotaro is still in the Black arc; if you were to actually compare the two arcs directly then Goku is going to walk away from it much stronger in Toyotaro's version. Meanwhile people believe Vegeta is stronger in SSB than Goku to this day because of how Toei handled it.
Dragonballgod19 wrote:
I'm pretty sure vegeta will beat hit like he said they won't repeat themselves I'm 100% sure he will lose to jiren especially since he's the second strongest
You know it would be interesting if the Tournament defied expectations and one of the invisible fighters ends up beating the shit out of Jiren.
Because everyone is expecting it to come down to Goku vs Jiren or somebody vs Jiren and they have done since the new opening.
So if he were to suddenly get stomped near the end then nobody would expect something like that to happen. Then somebody else would be the real threat. If Jiren is just going to be a Hit 2.0 anyway then I wouldn't mind them pulling a twist like that.
Freeza9000 wrote:Dragon Ball Super Episode 99 Preview Image-Looks like SSJ Stage 3
Wasn't expecting that. Especially if she can do SSJ2. Maybe she is just trying to copy what she saw Kale do, but doesn't quite grasp why Kales form works.
I would find that kind of funny. Caulifla just assuming more muscles is better and then getting destroyed for it.
