"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Akyon]

Not sure if I've become desensitized to the bullshit Caulifla has done or you guys are over reacting .

Definitely an overreaction IMO.

Considering everyone was expecting Blue or 3, I'm really not sure why this is considered even half as bad.

Not like anyone else is even using that flawed form. Let her keep it.

[Yomi]

Number one it was introducing the form and two the whole point of the concept was that it was ridiculous. It was purposely bloated not because it was actually cool looking but because I was emphasizing how ridiculous and impractical it was. We can wait to see how it plays out but seeing the body of a that looks like an 11 year old girl bulk up into Broly form seems unnecessary. It just looks crazy and not something I would think they would do in universe that would serve a purpose but we will see what the story attached to it is.

Well she learned Super Saiyan like 3 hours ago, I don't expect her to know what Future Trunks had to learn the hard way after a year of training.

[TheMikado]

Number one it was introducing the form and two the whole point of the concept was that it was ridiculous. It was purposely bloated not because it was actually cool looking but because I was emphasizing how ridiculous and impractical it was. We can wait to see how it plays out but seeing the body of a that looks like an 11 year old girl bulk up into Broly form seems unnecessary. It just looks crazy and not something I would think they would do in universe that would serve a purpose but we will see what the story attached to it is.

Well she learned Super Saiyan like 3 hours ago, I don't expect her to know what Future Trunks had to learn the hard way after a year of training.

I agree with this, but in the context that she already knows the superior form of SSJ2 it's weird unless it's supposed to be USSJ2, otherwise why would they go backwards unless they just wanted to give her another new form that doesn't even look good. It would be like giving Vegeta SSJ3 at this point without any real good reason. It wouldn't look good at all and they would need a darn good reason to have him go backwards at this point to a form with so many drawbacks when he has superior forms he can use. The design is terrible, the jury is still out on the implementation until we see the episode.

[SansrivaaL]

Not sure if I've become desensitized to the bullshit Caulifla has done or you guys are over reacting .

Definitely an overreaction IMO.

Considering everyone was expecting Blue or 3, I'm really not sure why this is considered even half as bad.

Not like anyone else is even using that flawed form. Let her keep it.

Its bad for a different reason.
USSJ- visual standpoint
SSJB- story wise.
I'm sure not a lot of people find it appealing to see a teenage skinny punk girl to pump up those huge muscles (same can be said with Kale tho, but her's is a given since it was LSSJ, Cauli just got SSJ and presumed SSJ2, why cant they just go with that for a while? Let her grow in a normal pace, not in less than a day in universe she unlocks 3 forms) USSJ makes sense from a story perspective, but visually it does not look good on her thats all.

[precita]

I wonder if Toei is purposely making Caulifa/Kale into these power hungry warriors to justify Pan's power if they ever skip ahead to EOZ.

[Kanassa]

As long as they're not goin' crazy or calling it BS without context, it's fine to discuss the spoilers.
That is why we are here.

I just saw people saying it looks awful and like fanfic and that it's worse than SSB. that is crazy honestly lol

That would be me, and it does look horrible and worse than what SSB on her would look like. That's objective

No, what you think looks horrible is subjective.

[precita]

Caulifa's muscle form probably won't last long, I bet it won't even last half an episode before she realizes she's too slow and just gets knocked around. People are overreacting over something that was likely just put in as a running gag.

[Lord Beerus]

So Caulifla getting another new SSJ form, but it's arguably the worst kind of SSJ form from the SSJ transformation tree? I love that irony.

[Kanassa]

So Caulifla getting another new SSJ form, but it's arguably the worst kind of SSJ form from the SSJ transformation tree? I love that irony.

I wonder if we'll get a repeat of the Cell arc with her opponent casually dodging her attacks and pointing out how shit that form is.

[TBMx]

Toei didn't have Goku start using SSBKK regularly till this arc, while Toyotaro is still in the Black arc; if you were to actually compare the two arcs directly then Goku is going to walk away from it much stronger in Toyotaro's version. Meanwhile people believe Vegeta is stronger in SSB than Goku to this day because of how Toei handled it.

In the Manga, Goku hasn't done anything that Vegeta can't learn later on. Kaioken on the other hand...

Is so much a Goku signature that other z warriors like tien was never taught it by king kai.

Maybe the anime could introduce perfected ssb for vegeta but again , Toriyama and Toei are probably going to push Gohan again. Failed the last time he tried it, but of course they'd rather repeat with Gohan than give vegeta a proper win.

[Totamo]

Caulifa's muscle form probably won't last long, I bet it won't even last half an episode before she realizes she's too slow and just gets knocked around. People are overreacting over something that was likely just put in as a running gag.

Its almost like Toriyama is a gag writer at heart.


How did the U6 arc end again?

[FortuneSSJ]

Maybe Caulifla will try to unlock SSB on her own and she just manages to get all SSJs forms, except that one and SSG. That is, until Goku teaches her and she unlocks it later.

[Ki Breaker]

So Caulifla getting another new SSJ form, but it's arguably the worst kind of SSJ form from the SSJ transformation tree? I love that irony.

I wonder if we'll get a repeat of the Cell arc with her opponent casually dodging her attacks and pointing out how shit that form is.

Wait until you see her remove that form's speed limitations with tingling in her feet

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

I wonder if Toei is purposely making Caulifa/Kale into these power hungry warriors to justify Pan's power if they ever skip ahead to EOZ.

I can't follow this logic, how does Caulifla/Kale relate to Pan?

[Kanassa]

So Caulifla getting another new SSJ form, but it's arguably the worst kind of SSJ form from the SSJ transformation tree? I love that irony.

I wonder if we'll get a repeat of the Cell arc with her opponent casually dodging her attacks and pointing out how shit that form is.

Wait until you see her remove that form's speed limitations with tingling in her feet

I got it! She's third Gear Luffy, and by the end of this fight she'll decrease to chibi-form, head butting people in the dick

[sintzu]

Toriyama and Toei are probably going to push Gohan again. Failed the last time he tried it, but of course they'd rather repeat with Gohan than give vegeta a proper win.

I remember people were saying Krillin would get a lot to do because of how much focus he got before the tournament but as turns out, he's the 1st one out so I wouldn't count on Gohan surpassing Vegeta in any way. So far Vegeta has been the 2nd main character so for them to push him AND Goku out in favore of Gohan out of the Blue is very unlikely.

[kinisking]

Toriyama and Toei are probably going to push Gohan again. Failed the last time he tried it, but of course they'd rather repeat with Gohan than give vegeta a proper win.

I remember people were saying Krillin would get a lot to do because of how much focus he got before the tournament but as turns out, he's the 1st one out so I wouldn't count on Gohan surpassing Vegeta in any way. So far Vegeta has been the 2nd main character so for them to push him AND Goku out in favore of Gohan out of the Blue is very unlikely.

Gohan has gotten much more focus and is the leader so he's much safer than Krillin. He's not pushing Goku anywhere obviously, but if things are heading in a logical path then he should be as relevant as Vegeta.

[sintzu]

If things are heading in a logical path then he should be as relevant as Vegeta.

That's what the last ending was hinting at with him on Goku's left and Vegeta on his right.

[Jigurashi]

If things are heading in a logical path then he should be as relevant as Vegeta.

That's what the last ending was hinting at with him on Goku's left and Vegeta on his right.

That's true but wouldn't this ending hint at Gohan being more important than Vegeta though?

[sintzu]

That's true but wouldn't this ending hint at Gohan being more important than Vegeta though?

It also shows Freeza as a good guy so not all of them are accurate. The first opening and ending focus on Gohan and Goten while Vegeta is nowhere to be seen yet they did nothing.

For all we know the scene of him, Goku & Gohan coming at the screen was done because it looked cool and had nothing to do with their actual roles.