"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[Doctor.]

That's just alluding to a Goku vs Freeza rematch, it's being self-aware about how Frost looks identical to Freeza. As it stands, we really have no reason to think Frost is evil unless he's faking his personality.

[TheMikado]

I do understand/sympathize with those who are sad/upset that blueper saiyan might be gone forever though; I was sad/upset over losing ssjg. It's never fun when something you like gets replaced with something else.

It is pretty sad, the hand waving and tantrums but we are still in the first stage of grief which is denial.

Instead I think we should be collectively taking the academic approach and theorizing on of it truly is SSJ then why now? What happened and what's different. Maybe collectively people are in the first stage of grief.

[ekrolo2]

That's just alluding to a Goku vs Freeza rematch, it's being self-aware about how Frost looks identical to Freeza. As it stands, we really have no reason to think Frost is evil unless he's faking his personality.

That's the plot twist for the arc

[Swifticuffs]

That's just alluding to a Goku vs Freeza rematch, it's being self-aware about how Frost looks identical to Freeza. As it stands, we really have no reason to think Frost is evil unless he's faking his personality.

Valid point on the text by Sandubadear, but yeah. This times 1000.

[ekrolo2]

It's the whole Ultimate Gohan thing again with Goku isn't it? Can he or can he not go Super Saiyan now.

Oh God..... Why did you have to say that?!

[TheMikado]

The writing near Frost says "Legendary Super Saiyan vs. Evil Emperor again!"

They state he's not evil already, however the use of the term LSSJ gives me hope for Cabba as they seem to suddenly remember that was even a thing or a legend.

[Swifticuffs]

The writing near Frost says "Legendary Super Saiyan vs. Evil Emperor again!"

They state he's not evil already, however the use of the term LSSJ gives me hope for Cabba as they seem to suddenly remember that was even a thing or a legend.

Eh, I mean didn't Vegeta claim he too could transform into the legendary super saiyan in the japanese Revival of F movie? After his SSJB transformation?

[ekrolo2]

The writing near Frost says "Legendary Super Saiyan vs. Evil Emperor again!"

They state he's not evil already, however the use of the term LSSJ gives me hope for Cabba as they seem to suddenly remember that was even a thing or a legend.

Eh, I mean didn't Vegeta claim he too could transform into the legendary super saiyan in the japanese Revival of F movie? After his SSJB transformation?

Yes he did. I doubt it'll mean anything.

[Doctor.]

That's just alluding to a Goku vs Freeza rematch, it's being self-aware about how Frost looks identical to Freeza. As it stands, we really have no reason to think Frost is evil unless he's faking his personality.

That's the plot twist for the arc

Definitely would make him have more depth to him than most of the villains in this series, even if I'd personally despise it if he was evil all along.

[dbzfan7]

It's the whole Ultimate Gohan thing again with Goku isn't it? Can he or can he not go Super Saiyan now.

Oh God..... Why did you have to say that?!

People are already so sure of what the answer is, and are complaining and lecturing people. It's already begun again.

[ekrolo2]

It's the whole Ultimate Gohan thing again with Goku isn't it? Can he or can he not go Super Saiyan now.

Oh God..... Why did you have to say that?!

People are already so sure of what the answer is, and are complaining and lecturing people. It's already begun again.

And that's why I'm hoping this is just a manga exclusive thing or an oversite because we really don't need a new round of theories around how the hell SSJ forms work now.

[sailorspazz]

It's the whole Ultimate Gohan thing again with Goku isn't it? Can he or can he not go Super Saiyan now.

Honestly have been thinking the same thing through the past ~15 pages of scrolling through this thread I've never seen a franchise have so many explosive discussions about characters' apparent hair colors.

I don't even want to make any conclusions until I see it in the anime, since that's the "true" product (but there are a few sources that point to it being gold again, so...nope, not even gonna worry about it right now).

Gokuu's significant look at Hit definitely stood out as something important. He must sense something that's making him single him out as either being the one he thinks is the strongest opponent, or a potential threat. I did enjoy the Hit = hitman theory that was being discussed a few pages back. So if he was hired to take someone out, the big question is, who?! Or he could also turn out to be a more traditional villain who's aiming to cause some sort of chaos at the tournament and steal the super dragon balls in the confusion. It's weird, I didn't really have an opinion on Hit one way or the other until this chapter, but just the fact that Gokuu looked at him is making him seem sketchy as hell

[Tsufuru]

i cant recall some1 saying its not possible to turn regular ssj anymor.
i also cant recall some1 saying they cant train to be able to do such a thing.

this whole discussion seems pointless at this point tbh.

[ChaosLordBrandon]

i cant recall some1 saying its not possible to turn regular ssj anymor.
i also cant recall some1 saying they cant train to be able to do such a thing.

this whole discussion seems pointless at this point tbh.

And the question would be answered in the preview of the upcoming episode so I don't even know what people are arguing about.

[SaiyanZ]

Honestly, Frost's "3rd" form looks fantastic. I don't know if its because of the loss of the wrinkles and lipstick and concentric circles around the limbs or what but it looks freaking great. Also, does anyone think Goku might intentionally lose to Frost after being suspicious of Hit? Like he might be satisfied enough with a fight with Frost and get himself DQ'd?

[Xeztin]

I think Goku is too competitive to lose on purpose, unless of course he knows its life threatening if he doesn't to him or others. Also for the SSJ/B debate, people are debating if it is SSJ Goku, that Frost will have a Golden form similar to Freezas and Goku will then go SSJB.

[DragonHermit]

Good point about the training to whoever made it. Frost could be a Freeza that actually trains (since he's not full of himself). It would explain the disparity between Frost and Freeza well rather than just U6 fighters being stronger for the sake of plot.

[sintzu]

I think Goku is too competitive to lose on purpose, unless of course he knows its life threatening if he doesn't to him or others.

Maybe Hit pulls something during his match and him, Vegeta & Kaybe leave the tournament to go after him like what happened during the 25th Tenkaichi with Babidi.

[Xeztin]

I think Goku is too competitive to lose on purpose, unless of course he knows its life threatening if he doesn't to him or others.

Maybe Hit pulls something during his match and him, Vegeta & Kaybe leave the tournament to go after him like what happened during the 25th Tenkaichi with Babidi.

That makes sense, It'd be cool if Hit was undercover for U6's Galactic Patrol. Jaco was interested in Beerus in U7, maybe U6 patrol also are in Champa. Jaco also was afraid of Beerus, so maybe U6's control hired Hit to kill Champa because they also fear him? Or he could be sent to prevent Beerus and Champa from fighting and destroying both universes by the Patrol or whoever gave Beerus and Champa their Positions/jobs.

[TheMikado]

I think Goku is too competitive to lose on purpose, unless of course he knows its life threatening if he doesn't to him or others.

Maybe Hit pulls something during his match and him, Vegeta & Kaybe leave the tournament to go after him like what happened during the 25th Tenkaichi with Babidi.

That makes sense, It'd be cool if Hit was undercover for U6's Galactic Patrol. Jaco was interested in Beerus in U7, maybe U6 patrol also are in Champa. Jaco also was afraid of Beerus, so maybe U6's control hired Hit to kill Champa because they also fear him? Or he could be sent to prevent Beerus and Champa from fighting and destroying both universes by the Patrol or whoever gave Beerus and Champa their Positions/jobs.

I like that, another fun one would be if Hit was Champa's successor and was training under him but just under his power level. Then they find out Hit has been secretly training and holding back and came to the tournament to wipe out universe 6 and 7s most powerful oppositions so he rule and destroy worlds without any resistance.