Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

[Captain-Sora]

Why don't you care about Trunks and Goten being rescued? It means 18 can join the fight now with no out-of-nowhere aspect. So what if they devoted half the page to Gohan SSJ2? It's a dramatic moment. It's like Toriyama when he devotes a full page to a new powerup. It seems everyone here is hating, just because its Broly. Well its not recognisably Broly anymore. He talks in this special.

You have missed my point entirely. I'm talking about pacing and having better story structure. As I already said before, this is a webcomic that updates one page at a time on three specific days each week. Considering that, it's understandable why some people may find it boring now, each new page of this special really drags and progresses very little. Why? Because of the "movie storyboard" structure used to tell the story and showing every insignificant thing. I know the reasons why they do that, but it isn't necessary. Should they not do it every time? Not really, there's nothing wrong with adding a little bit of panels to emphasize certain pivotal events, should it be done excessively? No.

It may work in a serial, but when it comes to a comic that updates one page at a time, specifically a special meant to give some background to why a character is where he is currently in the main story, I'd rather have things flow along a little quicker with less emphasis on actions and a little more on progressing the plot, even at the risk of making it feel a little more static.

[Xyex]

Why would Salagir even accept this bullshit?

Because it's his story? Yes, the special chapters were all written by Salagir just like DBM. They just have artists other than Gogeta Jr.

[Ussj Future Trunks]

Well if you want it to be better, make your own comic. In the meantime, DON'T LIKE? DON'T READ! for the last 30 pages of this topic, there has been nothing but "I hate this, I hate that. Salagir isn't writing this the way i want him to". Jesus H Christ, people.

[rereboy]

I understand DNA`s frustration but I agree with Ussj Future Trunks.

People tend to be way too demanding these days...

[Captain-Sora]

Well if you want it to be better, make your own comic. In the meantime, DON'T LIKE? DON'T READ! for the last 30 pages of this topic, there has been nothing but "I hate this, I hate that. Salagir isn't writing this the way i want him to". Jesus H Christ, people.

Excuse me, but you don't need to act so obnoxious just because people are giving their opinions, all that leads to is unnecessary fighting. You need to understand that all work will receive criticism and you shouldn't lash out at people for sharing their thoughts. I was simply stating some reasons why I think it has gotten a little boring. For me, my only issue is with the slow pacing of the special. I really don't mind anything else so far(although I would prefer reading the main story).

[Ussj Future Trunks]

I know but it would help if people said some positive things instead of nitpicking about how Salagir is focusing on Broly so much, and how he's not doing the panels the way you would. The hate is just overboard IMO. I'm surprised half of you haven't just stopped reading, like DNA.

[Captain-Sora]

That's because there aren't many positive things for some people to say right now. They're not being haters, they're just bringing up legitimate issues. People aren't going to be mindless fans saying the special's great if it isn't. There will always be people who have some problems with the comic. It's nothing to get riled up over. And honestly, I wouldn't say that criticising the pacing, story structure, and panel layout is nitpicking. Those things play a big role in keeping the readers interested. If nothing new, captivating or significant happens in a few pages, then it can become boring.

[Senzu_Bean]

I too agree this special chapter is dragging too much. The first Broly special ended with as much pages when this pretty much began. Specials are fun when kept shorter, like the first two, not like this one, which is also throwing logic out of the window. That might lead people wondering how Salagir wrote such thing.

But hey, this is a free comic. If this is boring what you would say about DBAF.

[rereboy]

Excuse me, but you don't need to act so obnoxious just because people are giving their opinions, all that leads to is unnecessary fighting. You need to understand that all work will receive criticism and you shouldn't lash out at people for sharing their thoughts. I was simply stating some reasons why I think it has gotten a little boring. For me, my only issue is with the slow pacing of the special. I really don't mind anything else so far(although I would prefer reading the main story).

The problem is that people tend to focus way too much on what they think is wrong.

If something is less than perfect in their opinion (in which case they would say its awesome and amazing) they tend to just talk about the negative aspects, especially after a while of following the manga/series/show in question.

After a while, the only thing that is talked about are the negative aspects, giving off the impression that the manga/series/show in question is just a piece of crap or not good. And that is really unfair when the manga in question (DBM) is probably the best fan manga out there.

People in general just need relax a little on the criticism and the negative aspects, which is what people generally bother to comment. No one likes to keep hearing pretty much the same complaints over and over or to hear only complaints.

[Captain-Sora]

After a while, the only thing that is talked about are the negative aspects, giving off the impression that the manga/series/show in question is just a piece of crap or not good. And that is really unfair when the manga in question (DBM) is probably the best fan manga out there.

But that's simply not true. While people have been criticising certain aspects of the comic, there have been numerous praises too, mostly in the comments section of each page on their site. The criticism barely left a mark on this comic at all and I doubt the negative response would influence many people to not read it, especially when most of the complaints are directed to some little special chapter, not the main story(which is what a lot of the disappointed fans are still interested in).

The negative feedback is starting to be taken a little too seriously. No matter how excessive it can sometimes be after an update, there's no excuse for getting all dramatic over someone else's opinion. That just leads to more problems. Just let the critiques be, once the main story starts up again, I'm sure there'll be a lot more positive responses.

[Big Momma]

Plus, you guys gotta remember that this is Daizex. We're nit-picky by nature.

[Dayspring]

Pseudonyms, pseudonyms, pseudonyms, my friend. Nobody who knows who I am personally knows I work in the porn industry and write erotica on the side, but it's fun and pays the bills. Secrecy remains intact fairly easily if you don't go by your real name.

Why, you filthy, amoral, sick, disgusting, perverted, disturbed, deviant, heinous, beastly, degraded, scumbag, lowlife cretin.

Cretin?! I most certainly am not a cretin!

So we talkin' actor, director or writer? Or are you just one of them technical folks? Is it just straight-laced porno or all that really nasty kinky stuff I like? Incidentally, how is the money? I would imagine it would be a rather lucrative disposition, depending on your annual output and relative position in the business of course. Do you do it for a living or is it just a little fun on the side?

I'm a copywriter in affiliate marketing. Despite working for the biggest porn reviewers in the industry, the pay is kind of crappy, but that's a business-specific thing. Entry-level anywhere else (porn and not porn) is $36,000 CDN. I make about $25,000, so once people get to the junior level, there's a decent amount of turnover. This place has LOTS of perks (besides looking at porn all day, I mean), so I'll probably stay for the long haul depending how much my next raise is. I do the copywriting for a living and erotic lit for fun on the side that gets me a little cash here and there. Not at all what it's worth, but it's super-easy to write (for me, anyway). My passion is supernatural horror when it comes to creative writing.

As for DBM, I think it would be better if the specials and main comic were being done in tandem, rather than the specials replacing the main. It makes it seem far too long.

[rereboy]

But that's simply not true. While people have been criticising certain aspects of the comic, there have been numerous praises too, mostly in the comments section of each page on their site. The criticism barely left a mark on this comic at all and I doubt the negative response would influence many people to not read it, especially when most of the complaints are directed to some little special chapter, not the main story(which is what a lot of the disappointed fans are still interested in).

The negative feedback is starting to be taken a little too seriously. No matter how excessive it can sometimes be after an update, there's no excuse for getting all dramatic over someone else's opinion. That just leads to more problems. Just let the critiques be, once the main story starts up again, I'm sure there'll be a lot more positive responses.

Actually I was talking about this topic, not the comments on the site.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

Plus, you guys gotta remember that this is Daizex. We're nit-picky by nature.

Agreed. If I may direct you guys to the "Kai Dub Thread".

[Scarz]

Took you long enough Piccolo.

[JulieYBM]

Snapped back into a fighter's mindset by his brother's defeat, Super Saiyan 2 Son Gohan's power boils!!


That last panel looked really good, for an out of focus shot.

[Godo]

Actually I was talking about this topic, not the comments on the site.

I want to learn you something. We'll start with this example:

If you've read but only one book in your life, and suddenly read a new book, that new book will in your eyes be something wonderful, and you don't criticize it because of that you are blind by the excitement and the gratefulness over something new.
If you have read hundreds of books in your life, though, you won't be excited by that new book, and when you read it, you are aware of it's flaws. That's when you can call yourself a knowing critic.

This forum is a forum where we discuss things. And in those discussions are included mainly flaws.
You should know that when we start a discussion , let's say, about the Season Sets when they were released, the first question is: "What is good about this release?" (not a literal quote, mind you). The second, and the most sticking question is "What's the flaws with this release?".

A work that is adequate, doesn't have to have a bunch of roses and kisses thrown towards it. If you want that, stick to the comments section at DB:M. Otherwise, stop whining when people express their opinions regarding the comic. We are here to discuss, not to agree with everything that you do and stop expressing ourselves because of that you want that.
Face it, if there are many complaints, chances are that you may be one of the few people who like a piece of shit comic, and that it may be your taste that is the bad one.
Now it may be the opposite too, that we are the ones with bad taste, but not until you realize that people who think that this comic has many flaws may have valid reasons to, you'll stop complaining about them giving negative remarks.
Right now, though, you don't.

[Blue]

That was...beautiful Godo.

I'm holding off reading this story again until this Brolly stuff is over. I think it would be more fun anticipating updates knowing it will be something I'll probably enjoy or be interested in.

[The Tori-bot]

Well, you heard it here first, folks.

BROLI'S STRENGTH INCREASE. I smell a meme.

[Blue]

I guess it really wasn't maximum after all.