Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Barunks » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:20 pm

Maybe instead of creating Goten Toriyama should've kept future trunks around. Maybe have him reach Super Saiyan 3 and fight Super Buu instead.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:22 pm

Barunks wrote:Maybe instead of creating Goten Toriyama should've kept future trunks around. Maybe have him reach Super Saiyan 3 and fight Super Buu instead.
No, Future Trunks' story was already done. Besides, present Trunks was already a thing by the time the Cell Arc ended. Toriyama should have just dropped Goten and elaborated more on Trunks.
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Post by Ajay » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:23 pm

JulieYBM wrote:A new video has appeared, I'm not quite sure it says anything new, though. CinemaToday has a write-up on it, though.
Nice to get more previews of Vegeta's new outfit.

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I do wish they'd draw him with a bit more ferocity. Though, I guess them not doing so is meant to be the point. You know, character development and all that.
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Post by SaiyaJedi » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:29 pm

JulieYBM wrote:A new video has appeared, I'm not quite sure it says anything new, though. CinemaToday has a write-up on it, though.
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Post by Hugo Boss » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:35 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:Aside from when he first saw Goku, when was Goten ever shy?

And why are we viewing being in charge of the richest company on Earth as a bad thing?
You sound like Goten is outgoing, for me he is not shy only in front of his family, which is just normal. Then, he gradually recognizes the other Z Fighters as their friends and became more at ease. Also we get to see the diferences between them in their first official fight in the Budokai. Goten is humble, while Trunks acts as a mini Vegeta.

And well, I don't thing it is really interesting being in charge of the world's most important company if you can do something more interesting like... dating girls. They are teenagers!

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Post by Chuquita » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:38 pm

That symbol really does look like if in-universe, one of the characters drew it on there with a sharpie. I could actually see that happening. Instead of them getting "school uniforms", Whis just draws the symbol on their shirts (like how Gohan and Videl had those badges at their high school instead of uniforms).
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:43 pm

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Kamiccolo9 wrote:Aside from when he first saw Goku, when was Goten ever shy?

And why are we viewing being in charge of the richest company on Earth as a bad thing?
You sound like Goten is outgoing, for me he is not shy only in front of his family, which is just normal. Then, he gradually recognizes the other Z Fighters as their friends and became more at ease. Also we get to see the diferences between them in their first official fight in the Budokai. Goten is humble, while Trunks acts as a mini Vegeta.

And well, I don't thing it is really interesting being in charge of the world's most important company if you can do something more interesting like... dating girls. They are teenagers!
There's a difference between "shy" and "not all that outgoing." Goten is never depicted as shy, except when he first met Goku. He's never shy around Piccolo, who is probably the one he spends the most time with in the Buu Arc, nor is he particularly shy to anyone at the Budokai. The humbleness is just him being polite.

I'm not seeing your point about Trunks. He's the richest teenager in the world. He can get all the dates he wants.
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Post by dbgtFO » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:51 pm

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JulieYBM wrote:A new video has appeared, I'm not quite sure it says anything new, though. CinemaToday has a write-up on it, though.
The Freeza narration was cute, though.
What did he say?
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Post by Hugo Boss » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:53 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:There's a difference between "shy" and "not all that outgoing." Goten is never depicted as shy, except when he first met Goku. He's never shy around Piccolo, who is probably the one he spends the most time with in the Buu Arc, nor is he particularly shy to anyone at the Budokai. The humbleness is just him being polite.

I'm not seeing your point about Trunks. He's the richest teenager in the world. He can get all the dates he wants.
Yes, when you mentioned Goku's first meeting with Goten I remembered his reaction. In English "shy" was not exactly the word I was looking for, "polite" is the one, or maybe "humble", in contrast to Trunks, who talks like he knows a thing when he isn't well versed of what he is talking about.

My point about Teen Trunks is that I don't see any reason for a 18-year kid to be in charge of a company. That sounds so unrealistic, well. Trunks doesn't seem he has interest in girls like he has for money. Goten surprised me in that regard.

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Post by Retan » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:06 pm

So what can anyone tell us (JulieYBM, Kei17) about Shinzo Yuki the art director of this movie, if anything at all?

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Post by dodonpa » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:08 pm

There is a pic (already posted) with Beerus spitting in the official webpage. Maybe he will not fight Freeza because he has caught a cold? I can see it happening :lol:

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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:14 pm

JulieYBM wrote:A new video has appeared, I'm not quite sure it says anything new, though. CinemaToday has a write-up on it, though.
I wonder if that shot of Goku going SSJ while wearing his old gi is going to be in the movie... maybe they show them training before they get their new uniforms.

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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:15 pm

dodonpa wrote:There is a pic (already posted) with Beerus spitting in the official webpage. Maybe he will not fight Freeza because he has caught a cold? I can see it happening :lol:
If a stomachache can incapacitate the mighty Mr. Satan, then I guess a cold should be more than enough to take down the weaker Beerus.
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Post by Chuquita » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:27 pm

Not an animation specialist, but looked up Shinzo Yuki on ANN's encyclopedia because I'm curious. He's art directed in stuff I've enjoyed in the past.
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-Futari wa Precure (episodes, the movies, and Max Heart; early precure like Futari wa tends more towards DB-style fighting than sentai)
-Both Precure 5 movies (I remember really enjoying these)
-That old Sonic CD 2D animation stuff (I recall that looking really cool, but it was a long while ago).

DB (not Z) movie 2 is also listed there, but I barely remember that one.

There's a lot of other listings there too where he's done background art and other stuff, but the above are ones I've seen that he has also been credited as Art Director
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:28 pm

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To be honest I used to love them as a kid growing up with the series, but watching the series again later on... every time I see them, nothing sparks. I have no excitement for them.
Yep. Goten is just kinda... there. Trunks has at least some personality, but Goten? His personality is just "cheerful child who follows Trunks around". His design is literally just kid Goku in a different outfit. The only techniques he knows are flight and the Kamehameha (unless you count generic little ki bullets). His only solo fights have been with Trunks and Abo, both of which weren't life-and-death battles, but just games. He's just very generic, and exists entirely to give Trunks a higher power level so he can be Gotenks. Who, as noted, is basically just an exaggerated version of Trunks with almost no Goten in there.
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Post by JulieYBM » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:33 pm

Art Directors are in charge of designing and supervising the drawing of the backgrounds (buildings, foliage, houses) unless those items are moving (which would then be drawn by the key animator and supervised by the animation supervisor). I don't follow those as well as I should but if that trailer is anything to go by we're not in for some great stuff.
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Post by EmmaWinters » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:40 pm

JulieYBM wrote:if that trailer is anything to go by we're not in for some great stuff.
It's wasn't anything terrible, but it's definitely lacking compared to other modern day anime films & OVAs. It's a shame, too; you'd figure one of the most recognizable franchises in the genre would have nicer looking art/animation than what the Jump special/Battle of Gods had. Not to mention Kai's awful-looking redrawn scenes.
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Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:54 pm

Thinking back to the BOG trailer, we saw a lot of stuff that was largely unfinished. Beerus chucking his attack at Goku was completely different in the final film, as was Goku's Kamehameha. I'm guessing they were place-holders that were quickly slapped together for the sole purpose of appearing in promotional material. A lot of stuff from the first trailer was also replaced by CGI, most notably Beerus' home- and I have to say it looked a lot nicer in the initial trailer. :roll:

I have to wonder what changes we'll see from the footage used in the first ROF trailer to the final film. I expect to see a lot more CGI, especially since the film will be in 3D. Not sure why, but I get the feeling the scene with Freeza's ship landing will be changed up a bit.

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Post by EmmaWinters » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:57 pm

DragonBoxZTheMovies wrote:I expect to see a lot more CGI, especially since the film will be in 3D.
God, I hope not. The 3D CGI in the last movie ruined every scene they were in.
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Post by Friezacooler » Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:06 pm

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DragonBoxZTheMovies wrote:I expect to see a lot more CGI, especially since the film will be in 3D.
God, I hope not. The 3D CGI in the last movie ruined every scene they were in.
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