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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by kinisking » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:05 pm

So no one's going to comment on Vegeta saying Goku is the strongest this chapter?
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Noah » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:08 pm

kinisking wrote:So no one's going to comment on Vegeta saying Goku is the strongest this chapter?
Vegeta was mocking him, we all know that he is one step ahead of him, but we still have to wait a proper translation, though.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by kinisking » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:17 pm

Noah wrote:
kinisking wrote:So no one's going to comment on Vegeta saying Goku is the strongest this chapter?
Vegeta was mocking him, we all know that he is one step ahead of him, but we still have to wait a proper translation, though.
The part i'm talking about isnt him mocking him." Kakarot is the strongest, but if he doesnt deal any damage they'res no way he can win" with a pretty straight face. And It doesnt seem to be a mistranslation but you never know I guess.

Btw I LOVE this hitman theory. I hope whoever was hired by him is weak too so that he's going to be the main villian. Would separate him from all the other main villians.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Doctor. » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:20 pm

Vegeta is saying Goku's the strongest between him and Botamo. This is hard to misinterpret, c'mon guys.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by kinisking » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:23 pm

Doctor. wrote:Vegeta is saying Goku's the strongest between him and Botamo. This is hard to misinterpret, c'mon guys.
If thats true, thats weird word choice. Why would he say "he's the strongest" implying out of multiple people, and not just say he's stronger? It actually is very easy to misinterpret.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by FortuneSSJ » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:29 pm

-About Hit-
The only thing I'm sure about him, is that he's the kind of character that Vegeta won't be able to beat. :lol:
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It's Toriyama. The Man himself rules over all 12 universes and doesn't feel like give Frost some unique transformations.
I have a feeling he's hidding another one though. Poor Piccolo! #BelieveinthatMakankosappo
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Sodhi » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:31 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:-About Hit-
The only thing I'm sure about him, is that he's the kind of character that Vegeta won't be able to beat. :lol:
We need nipple power for that guy :P

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by omaro34 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:42 pm

Hit seems like the next new badass of this series. Reminds me of Piccolo in the 23rd Tenkachi Budokai. All business, no games.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by omaro34 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:48 pm

Sodhi wrote:
FortuneSSJ wrote:-About Hit-
The only thing I'm sure about him, is that he's the kind of character that Vegeta won't be able to beat. :lol:
We need nipple power for that guy :P
Watching that Monaka guy dominate is gonna be weird. My guess is that he can transform.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Galan007 » Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:01 am

It certainly looked like Goku transformed into a standard SSJ in this chapter. Perhaps Toriyama is taking a page from the original version of BoG...

Recall that after SSG timed out in the original BoG film, Goku reverted to base and continued fighting Beerus. However, he soon transformed into a standard, golden-haired, SSJ when his base power wasn't enough and pressed the fight much harder. Beerus later commented that his power at that level was only slightly weaker than SSG, as he'd absorbed that tier of power into his being. So maybe that's what we're seeing right now in the tournament..? Essentially a 'faux-SSB'.

Just a thought. /shrug

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by kidhero1000 » Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:29 am

Vegeta Episode 29: "Shenron hasn't been useful in a while." Shenron screaming internally: Just wait till I become Omega Shenron in a few years, ya widow peaked motherfucker! This chapter proves they'll be trading in that God ki for some fur and eyeliner by the end of this series.
He devolved into saying only one word. Time to hit the ol' cosmic trail.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by DragonHermit » Fri Feb 19, 2016 1:29 am

I feel Hit is a hit man (assassin) for a bigger organization (definitely not Frost's empire, as he's probably a lot than stronger).

This is how I feel things are going to go

Goku vs Botamo - Goku win - CONFIRMED
Goku vs Frost - Goku doesn't use SSJ Blue and loses - Frost win
Piccolo vs Frost - Piccolo wears down Frost significantly - Frost win
Monaca vs Frost - Monaca finishes the job - Monaca win
Monaca vs Bot - Monaca beats Bot, but Bot's signals hurt his nipples and wears Monaca down - Monaca win
Monaca vs Cabe - Cabe wins
Vegeta vs Cabe - Saiyan vs. Saiyan/Vegeta promises to train Cabe in the future - Vegeta win
Vegeta vs Hit - Hit kills Vegeta thereby showing his power and continuing the arc - Hit default loss

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Sodhi » Fri Feb 19, 2016 1:33 am

DragonHermit wrote:I feel Hit is a hit man (assassin) for a bigger organization (definitely not Frost's empire, as he's probably a lot than stronger).

This is how I feel things are going to go

Goku vs Botamo - Goku win - CONFIRMED
Goku vs Frost - Goku doesn't use SSJ and loses - Frost win
Piccolo vs Frost - Piccolo wears down Frost significantly - Frost win
Monaca vs Frost - Monaca finishes the job - Monaca win
Monaca vs Bot - Monaca beats Bot, but Bot's signals hurt his nipples and wears Monaca down - Monaca win
Monaca vs Cabe - Cabe wins
Vegeta vs Cabe - Saiyan vs. Saiyan/Vegeta promises to train Cabe in the future - Vegeta win
Vegeta vs Hit - Hit kills Vegeta thereby showing his power and continuing the arc - Hit default loss
Vegeta is the third is line though. Beerus said monaca will go last.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by DragonHermit » Fri Feb 19, 2016 1:35 am

Sodhi wrote: Vegeta is the third is line though. Beerus said monaca will go last.
I think that might change though. We'll see.

Reason why I put Vegeta last is that Hit needs a strong opponent to show case his power against. But Monaca could work just as well.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Luke Groundwalker » Fri Feb 19, 2016 1:40 am

You know with people speculating about the Super anime getting passed the manga, what if instead of the Super manga staying on course with being an adaptation it becomes an alternate plotline instead? We've already seen other V-Jump manga like the Yu-Gi-Oh manga series do just this where they would start out similar to their original anime, but it ends up developing into an all-new plotline.

It'd be interesting if Toyotaro develops the manga with his own story rather than basing it on Toriyama's or TOEI's.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Sodhi » Fri Feb 19, 2016 1:46 am

Luke Groundwalker wrote:You know with people speculating about the Super anime getting passed the manga, what if instead of the Super manga staying on course with being an adaptation it becomes an alternate plotline instead? We've already seen other V-Jump manga like the Yu-Gi-Oh manga series do just this where they would start out similar to their original anime, but it ends up developing into an all-new plotline.

It'd be interesting if Toyotaro develops the manga with his own story rather than basing it on Toriyama's or TOEI's.
The problem though is that they are both working on Toriyama's ideas. So the end result will be the same, however toyotaro can still put his own twist to it. Toyotaro can do his own story ones toriyama is done, then toei and toyotaro can be completely different.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Khin » Fri Feb 19, 2016 1:53 am

Re: Monaka

Whis said in ep30 that something bad might happen if they invite Monaka.My guess is that he have a transformation where he goes bat shit crazy that he can't control himself that even Beerus will have a hard time putting him down.
FortuneSSJ wrote:-About Hit-
The only thing I'm sure about him, is that he's the kind of character that Vegeta won't be able to beat. :lol:
But Monaka will beat his ass. :twisted:

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by fadeddreams5 » Fri Feb 19, 2016 1:55 am

I like this arc. I like tournaments. Hit looks cool.

Super has my attention again. :angel:
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Xeztin » Fri Feb 19, 2016 1:55 am

Galan007 wrote:It certainly looked like Goku transformed into a standard SSJ in this chapter. Perhaps Toriyama is taking a page from the original version of BoG...

Recall that after SSG timed out in the original BoG film, Goku reverted to base and continued fighting Beerus. However, he soon transformed into a standard, golden-haired, SSJ when his base power wasn't enough and pressed the fight much harder. Beerus later commented that his power at that level was only slightly weaker than SSG, as he'd absorbed that tier of power into his being. So maybe that's what we're seeing right now in the tournament..? Essentially a 'faux-SSB'.

Just a thought. /shrug
I think your on to something, Goku absorbed God KI and was as strong as SSG but appeard to be Super Saiyan right? What if he kept that? What if the Super Saiyan we see is the one that absorbed the God Ki in that fight against Beerus? The SSJB could be his next level up sort of like Super Saiyan 2. Actually the Gold Super Saiyan could be drawing from the God Ki as a sort of energy source, and the Blue one infuses Super Saiyan with the God Ki making it stronger? So essentially it would mean that SSG=Gold Super Saiyan now and well SSJB is stronger. It would also make sense if we go back to Goku's statement about a Super Saiyan God who became a Super Saiyan. (I'm sure I just butchered the hell out of that)
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Sodhi » Fri Feb 19, 2016 2:07 am

Dragon god Zarama has me interested. Maybe he is indeed stronger than vados or whis.

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