Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Chuquita]

Re: Yamamuro directing?
I want to wait and see if it's absolutely confirmed that it wasn't a typo. Twice so far I've gotten surprised about something that turns out to actually be something else in relation to this movie. ^^; I don't like Yamamuro's art style (it's too far away from any of Toriyama's various art styles throughout DB and it also lacks anything stylistically stand-out-ish the way Maeda and Studio Cockpit's DB works were), so I'd prefer he not have as much power over the art supervision.

I'd like to have an art supervisor for this movie who adheres closer to one of Toriyama's art styles (I guess Buu arc since that's closest to where this will take place) but also has a fluidity in their designs. It's a series full of battles; having stiff animation is really counter-productive.

[JulieYBM]

I want someone to do something new. I think in his own way Yamamuro has been sticking too closely to Toriyama over the years and that has sort of become perverted over time. I'd like to see someone like Tate Naoki (One Piece Episode of Chopper) take over the character designer and chief animation supervisor roles so that we can get wild and kinetic drawings.

[Chuquita]

Kinetic drawings would be really nice. I always feel slightly jealous when I see that type of animation in other series compared to how stiff DB's newer art is. I want new DB art to have fluid movement to it too.

How old is Yamamuro? Is he anywhere near retirement age?

[JulieYBM]

Kinetic drawings would be really nice. I always feel slightly jealous when I see that type of animation in other series compared to how stiff DB's newer art is.

How old is Yamamuro? Is he anywhere near retirement age?

He was born in 1960, so he is about to turn fifty-five. That isn't really retirement age, though.

I hope Tanaka Hironori can work on this film. His work in the fourth Bleach movie is genius.

[KentalSSJ6]

Kinetic drawings would be really nice. I always feel slightly jealous when I see that type of animation in other series compared to how stiff DB's newer art is.

How old is Yamamuro? Is he anywhere near retirement age?

He was born in 1960, so he is about to turn fifty-five. That isn't really retirement age, though.

I hope Tanaka Hironori can work on this film. His work in the fourth Bleach movie is genius.

I'm still hoping for who I call the Three Greats. Yutaka Nakamura, Yoshimichi Kameda, and Takahiro Shikama.

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

That's what an animation supervisor does - he makes sure the frames adheres to his style. DBZ Episode 64 undoubtedly also had tight supervision to make sure everything was in line with Toriyama's style, especially given that it had more time put in it to make sure the frames looked good compared to episodes from lesser studios. You can call him a bad supervisor all you want, but don't start making baseless accusations about his character simply because he's not doing a good job in your opinion.

That's the thing, though. Does the movie look good? Just because he's talented doesn't automatically make him a great animator. We can tell by how his animation looks. Not to mention his works on DB Heroes look pretty bland and uninteresting. He didn't put in enough details and depth to make the movie look appealed. I'm aware that there aren't many good animators to work with, but since it's first movie in 17 years, and with veteran DB animator like Yamamuro, you would expect the animation to look at least as good as Movie 13. But it didn't end up that way, unfortunately, which is why I don't want him back. Not anymore. It's time to pass the torch to Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru or someone else who know how to supervise animation properly.

If the new movie's animation is going to be similar to Ultimate Blast' opening, I would be extremely happy.

[goku the krump dancer]

I'm going to take the tag line at face value and say we're in for some serious shit guys. Now am I expecting something super dark? Nah, not really but you never know... For the time being however I'd say, take the "seriousness" of The History of Trunks, Toei's Bardock Special or The King Piccolo arc and slice it in half and that should set the tone of the movie I think.

[kei17]

I'm totally against Yamamuro taking Dragon Ball into his own hands. He's still acceptable at least as an animator, but definitely not welcome as a director.

My expectations are getting lower.

[jjgp1112]

That's what an animation supervisor does - he makes sure the frames adheres to his style. DBZ Episode 64 undoubtedly also had tight supervision to make sure everything was in line with Toriyama's style, especially given that it had more time put in it to make sure the frames looked good compared to episodes from lesser studios. You can call him a bad supervisor all you want, but don't start making baseless accusations about his character simply because he's not doing a good job in your opinion.

That's the thing, though. Does the movie look good? Just because he's talented doesn't automatically make him a great animator. We can tell by how his animation looks. Not to mention his works on DB Heroes look pretty bland and uninteresting. He didn't put in enough details and depth to make the movie look appealed. I'm aware that there aren't many good animators to work with, but since it's first movie in 17 years, and with veteran DB animator like Yamamuro, you would expect the animation to look at least as good as Movie 13. But it didn't end up that way, unfortunately, which is why I don't want him back. Not anymore. It's time to pass the torch to Kadyoshi Nakatsuru or someone else who know how to supervise animation properly.

Nakatsuru Katsuyoshi is pretty old himself and his style has strayed even further from Akira Toriyama's than Yamamuro. Not to mention he already played a pretty big role in the original series as it was.

[JulieYBM]

Nakamura Yutaka is a member of Studio Bones, so unless Yamamuro really goes to bat I don't think he will be able to get Nakamura to work on the film.

I just remembered, Kurita Shin'ichi did the key animation for the Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta stuff from the Ultimate Blast Opening. It would be awesome if he could work on this film, given the award-worthy performances he did on Bleach.

[Chuquita]

I'm going to take the tag line at face value and say we're in for some serious shit guys. Now am I expecting something super dark? Nah, not really but you never know... For the time being however I'd say, take the "seriousness" of The History of Trunks, Toei's Bardock Special or The King Piccolo arc and slice it in half and that should set the tone of the movie I think.

I am so ready for this. OuO

What I'm really curious about, is if the dragon balls are used at the beginning of the movie to create this dire situation, then that means the cast may have to get creative with how to fix things without the db's (unless New Namek's db's fix it).

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

Nakamura Yutaka is a member of Studio Bones, so unless Yamamuro really goes to bat I don't think he will be able to get Nakamura to work on the film.

I just remembered, Kurita Shin'ichi did the key animation for the Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta stuff from the Ultimate Blast Opening. It would be awesome if he could work on this film, given the award-worthy performances he did on Bleach.

Do you know who key animated the fight choreography of SSJ Goku vs Freeza, SSJ Vegeta vs Kid Boo, and SSJ3 Gotenks vs Oozaru in the opening?

[JulieYBM]

Nakamura Yutaka is a member of Studio Bones, so unless Yamamuro really goes to bat I don't think he will be able to get Nakamura to work on the film.

I just remembered, Kurita Shin'ichi did the key animation for the Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta stuff from the Ultimate Blast Opening. It would be awesome if he could work on this film, given the award-worthy performances he did on Bleach.

Do you know who key animated the fight choreography of SSJ Goku vs Freeza, SSJ Vegeta vs Kid Boo, and SSJ3 Gotenks vs Oozaru in the opening?

Super Saiyan Gokuu versus Freeza is definitely Shida Naotoshi. A good tell for Shida is the shapes he uses to draw auras. I asked Murad about the others and these are what he thinks.

Damn, do I love how Kurita drew Super Saiyan 3 Gokuu in that opening animation...

EDIT: The storyboard was by Nagamine Tatsuya, the director of One Piece Film Z.

[Chuquita]

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2014/07/19/ta ... w-z-movie/
Confirmed and disappoint it is Yamamuro as regular director because he hasn't once impressed me in anything recent; but hopeful they may hire someone else with a more suitable style as animation director and allow that person the breathing room to do a good job.

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

Man, would I love to have Tate come back to take on the project. His introduction to the opening was breathtaking. There's no word to describe his awesomeness of animating Goku on Kinto'un with his gang in the blue sky with beautiful clouds.

[KentalSSJ6]

Nakamura Yutaka is a member of Studio Bones, so unless Yamamuro really goes to bat I don't think he will be able to get Nakamura to work on the film.

I just remembered, Kurita Shin'ichi did the key animation for the Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta stuff from the Ultimate Blast Opening. It would be awesome if he could work on this film, given the award-worthy performances he did on Bleach.

Ah, the Ichigo VS Kageroza fight. That was indeed some superb animation, enough to even make me watch the whole filler arc when normally I wouldn't touch Bleach filler with a 10 foot pole.

Didn't Nakamura do some animation for the first Cooler film?

[JulieYBM]

Nakamura Yutaka is a member of Studio Bones, so unless Yamamuro really goes to bat I don't think he will be able to get Nakamura to work on the film.

I just remembered, Kurita Shin'ichi did the key animation for the Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta stuff from the Ultimate Blast Opening. It would be awesome if he could work on this film, given the award-worthy performances he did on Bleach.

Ah, the Ichigo VS Kageroza fight. That was indeed some superb animation, enough to even make me watch the whole filler arc when normally I wouldn't touch Bleach filler with a 10 foot pole.

Didn't Nakamura do some animation for the first Cooler film?

That arc with Kageroza had a lot of good animators thanks to all of the talent Abe Noriyuki recruited for the fourth film which came out a little while before then. Imaki Hiro'aki, Kouno Megumi, Tanaka Hironori, and even Kameda Yoshimichi worked on Episode #341, directed by Tachikawa Yuzuru.

Nakamura Yutaka did work on the first Coola film, but that was before he joined Sunrise and later Bones.

[KentalSSJ6]

Well they need something to make the people watch the filler.

What do you think chances are for Kameda and Shikama getting involved? Are they freelance or do they belong to a company because Kameda's work on FMA: Sacred Star of Milos was just...wow. And as i've said before, Shikama's work on Sword Art Online is just as impressive.

[JulieYBM]

Well they need something to make the people watch the filler.

What do you think chances are for Kameda and Shikama getting involved? Are they freelance or do they belong to a company because Kameda's work on FMA: Sacred Star of Milos was just...wow. And as i've said before, Shikama's work on Sword Art Online is just as impressive.

Kameda Yoshimichi is a freelancer, but when the teaser for the 2013 film was released he tweeted about not liking the look of the characters, so I'm not sure if he would even approach Yamamuro. If Yamamuro caught wind of those comments he might not do the same, I would bet.

I'm pretty sure Shikama is a freelancer given the wide range of projects he has worked on.

[KentalSSJ6]

Well they need something to make the people watch the filler.

What do you think chances are for Kameda and Shikama getting involved? Are they freelance or do they belong to a company because Kameda's work on FMA: Sacred Star of Milos was just...wow. And as i've said before, Shikama's work on Sword Art Online is just as impressive.

Kameda Yoshimichi is a freelancer, but when the teaser for the 2013 film was released he tweeted about not liking the look of the characters, so I'm not sure if he would even approach Yamamuro. If Yamamuro caught wind of those comments he might not do the same, I would bet.

I'm pretty sure Shikama is a freelancer given the wide range of projects he has worked on.

Why is it the dance centered animes get some of the best animation I have ever seen in anything'?