"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Ushabtis]

I really hope Gohan doesn't become the new Yamcha in Super.
I'd rather not see him fight at all.

Gohan will never go sour as badly Yamcha. Yamcha is forever a loser and was made irrelevant by the late saiyan saga. He lost the girl, his skills over time, became a named mook, and he was made into a guy who sits on the side lines crapping his pants at the sheer strength of the opponents (even piccolo does that at least Piccolo, Tien, and Krillin get up and try to save the day). Gohan would never fall that far, plus Gohan appears to be the villain power level guess gauge, If they can beat gohan in a single punch that means they're "intimidating"

Based on the last 2 movies and this arc's poster it looks like that's where he is now. He went from #1 to #0 in a flash which is hard to believe cause this is the same character who won the Cell games.

Well. Gohan is known for pulling out super strength in hours of sitting which takes other characters years to achieve, So Super may do that to Gohan again. Most likely it will be super buu tier, Comes in strong enough to mop the floor with the villain, then Gohan will trip over a bug or something and get captured/beaten/killed.

[Doctor.]

plus Gohan appears to be the villain power level guess gauge, If they can beat gohan in a single punch that means they're "intimidating"

That was precisely Yamcha's job up until he got attacked by Gero. He became a joke much sooner, but he was already so useless by that point that they had to use Piccolo and Kuririn in the Boo arc to do the job. Saying Gohan is now being used for the same purpose Yamcha was, and then immediately after saying that Gohan is not the new Yamcha, is contradictory.

[Ushabtis]

That was precisely Yamcha's job up until he got attacked by Gero.

the Gero thing was to show they couldn't sense their powers. and every character has been used as a "villain power level guesser" somewhere in the entire series.

He became a joke much sooner, but he was already so useless by that point that they had to use Piccolo and Kuririn in the Boo arc to do the job.

for what? Only piccolo did stuff in the buu saga important compared to the other b team Z warriors.

Saying Gohan is now being used for the same purpose Yamcha was, and then immediately after saying that Gohan is not the new Yamcha, is contradictory.

not really just because they all get beaten up by a villain to show of strong a villain is isn't Yamcha's singular role in the show. Yamcha was forever last place, Gohan isn't, Gohan will always be a strong character (not first or second ever mind you) no matter how far he'll fall behind in training. its not like Gohan will become so weak that krillin, tien, yamcha could bridge the gap in strength.
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side note, will yamcha get a girlfriend/wife? it'd be nice to see that happen somewhere in Super, he really needs to stop being forever alone.

[MCDaveG]

This is so hilarious!!! Everyone wants the story after EoZ, but they can't appreciate that they've got EoZ Gohan!
What is wrong with you people?!

[Ushabtis]

This is so hilarious!!! Everyone wants the story after EoZ, but they can't appreciate that they've got EoZ Gohan!
What is wrong with you people?!

who said any of us are disappointed in Gohan becoming a scholar/teacher and being a loving father and husband? him being a punching bag with no other purpose than being punched is what most are mad about

[Doctor.]

he Gero thing was to show they couldn't sense their powers. and every character has been used as a "villain power level guesser" somewhere in the entire series.

Not as much as Yamcha.

He was used to hype up Jackie Chun in the 21st TB. He was used in Baba's Tournament to show off how strong her minions were and how strong Goku was. He was used in the 22nd TB to hype up Tenshinhan, then in the 23rd to hype up God, then in the Saiyan arc to show off how dangerous the Saibaman were and to set the mood for the arc and then used to show off how strong Gero was. He was always Toriyama's go-to guy to show off how powerful the new mysterious character was and it always resulted in certain humiliation.

for what? Only piccolo did stuff in the buu saga important compared to the other b team Z warriors.

You misunderstood. I said that by the time the Boo arc came along, Yamcha's credibility was so low that they had to use Piccolo and Kuririn to hype up the new threat, Dabra in this case.

not really just because they all get beaten up by a villain to show of strong a villain is isn't Yamcha's singular role in the show.

His other role was to provide exposition. That's it, something Gohan has done and can do.

Yamcha was forever last place, Gohan isn't, Gohan will always be a strong character (not first or second ever mind you) no matter how far he'll fall behind in training. its not like Gohan will become so weak that krillin, Tenshinhan, yamcha could bridge the gap in strength.

Last place? He's stronger than Roshi and Yajirobe, mind you.

No, but Gohan can easily become the weakest Saiyan, maybe even weaker than Piccolo, and he was the strongest at one point.

Kinda like how Yamcha was only second to Goku back when he was introduced and now is one of the lowest.

[MCDaveG]

This is so hilarious!!! Everyone wants the story after EoZ, but they can't appreciate that they've got EoZ Gohan!
What is wrong with you people?!

who said any of us are disappointed in Gohan becoming a scholar/teacher and being a loving father and husband? him being a punching bag with no other purpose than being punched is what most are mad about

Well, then he should've been sports teacher - as a nerdy scholar, he should be at least happy to have a nice wife at least (which he met when he was actually cool fighter).

[Ushabtis]

Kinda like how Yamcha was only second to Goku back when he was introduced and now is one of the lowest.

my memory of Dragon ball must be pretty dusty if Yamcha was second place in strength back then. I never remember Yamcha ever being a threat in terms of skill to Goku, Tien, Roshi or Krillin at the start of DB or near the end.

[Doctor.]

Kinda like how Yamcha was only second to Goku back when he was introduced and now is one of the lowest.

my memory of Dragon ball must be pretty dusty if Yamcha was second place in strength back then. I never remember Yamcha ever being a threat in terms of skill to Goku, Tenshinhan, Roshi or Krillin at the start of DB or near the end.

That's because Tenshinhan and Kuririn weren't introduced at that point and Roshi wasn't portrayed to be anything more than a weak old man yet.

[fadeddreams5]

Kinda like how Yamcha was only second to Goku back when he was introduced and now is one of the lowest.

my memory of Dragon ball must be pretty dusty if Yamcha was second place in strength back then. I never remember Yamcha ever being a threat in terms of skill to Goku, Tenshinhan, Roshi or Krillin at the start of DB or near the end.

That's because Tenshinhan and Kuririn weren't introduced at that point and Roshi wasn't portrayed to be anything more than a weak old man yet.

To be fair, he may have been second to Goku, but the gap was so incredibly large that he was still a joke.

[Ushabtis]

That's because Tenshinhan and Kuririn weren't introduced at that point and Roshi wasn't portrayed to be anything more than a weak old man yet.

well that's kinda cherry picking but okay. The thing is Gohan can dig himself out of the hole the show has created for him, Yacmcha its near impossible.

[soulnova]

Whatever revenue they get from streaming is gonna be hurt if they don't come to a deal in time. If Funi misses that window the pirates'll move in and take a chunk of the viewers away.

Yes, I am waiting for SUPER RAW, tough I prefer to watch the shows on Crunchyroll (like Saint Seiya or Jojo's Bizzare Adventure).
I don't know how the business model works, but for me, the only legal option to watch anime immediately is streaming service and if there is no other option, I am going full pirate!
I wonder, if they will block my country from streaming when the steak hits the pan.

YAR... YAR indeed.

This is Dragon Ball. I'll obviously try to support the official release if they allow me. I'm going to be really pissed if the Digital Jaco manga incident repeats itself all over again and they leave my country out of the list of those who can pay to get it.<FLASHBACK>Jesus Christ, I'm throwing my money at you, you stupid bastards. Why won't you take my money!!?? WHHYYY!!? </FLASHBACK>

I'll have keep the eye-patch close by, just in case.

[Chuquita]

I understand. I threw so much money at BOG and then F comes along with its blueper saiyans and blasts my hopes for a ssjg Gokû figuarts out the window.

But I have hope now! Because Super is using the BOG character models, not the ones from F. So maybe, if ssjg Gokû is in Super, Bandai might be all "hey maybe this form should get a figuarts too." and I'll throw them some money.

Funi does good reliable simulcasts. Admittedly I haven't watched One Piece in a while, but from what I've seen Funi does very good.

[Retan]

I understand. I threw so much money at BOG and then F comes along with its blueper saiyans and blasts my hopes for a ssjg Gokû figuarts out the window.

But I have hope now! Because Super is using the BOG character models, not the ones from F. So maybe, if ssjg Gokû is in Super, Bandai might be all "hey maybe this form should get a figuarts too." and I'll throw them some money.

Funi does good reliable simulcasts. Admittedly I haven't watched One Piece in a while, but from what I've seen Funi does very good.

Which is kinda weird right, I mean I understand Goku and somewhat Vegeta's costumes being Iconic and stuff, but to sell new merchandise wouldn't it be better to make them and others look a little different, or no?

[Chuquita]

I do like F's outfits for them better, and I do like blueper Vegeta. I was just super sad to have to pay for that with ssjg Gokû is all.

New outfits that are different even from both movies would've been nice for Super, but then we'd still be guessing the when, I guess.

[FortuneSSJ]

Vegeta should stop using saiyan armours and get something different like he got in Buu arc, EOZ and GT.

[Ajay]

Funi does good reliable simulcasts. Admittedly I haven't watched One Piece in a while, but from what I've seen Funi does very good.

The one thing that puts me off FUNi's service compared to CrunchyRoll's are their messed up luminance levels. They don't store their video properly, so playback is massively dark compared to the intended brightness. Hardsubs don't exactly thrill me either, but that's a nitpick. It's just nice to have the ability to take proper screenshots.

This kinda stuff is totally inexcusable, though.

TV Rip w/ correct levels:

Spoiler:

FUNi Stream:

Spoiler:

Example 2: FUNi / TV

It's frustrating to have to download a rip of a FUNi stream just to be able to display the video correctly. Makes me wonder what the point of paying for the product is when you still have to resort to piracy anyway!

If a simulcast is available, I really hope they give Simmons adequate time to translate the show. There's far too many cases of FUNi rushing shows out of the door with less than professional translations. When fansub groups are showing you up only a few days later, there's a real issue.

Death Parade was dreadful at times:

Spoiler:

Left - Fansub / Right - FUNi

There's literal and then there's...that.

Either way, I do hope this gets a release over here. I want to support this as much as possible! I just hope that if it does end up releasing a few weeks late, it will at least be shown some real love and care.

[B]

I don't think it really matters when FUNi puts out the show. I'd die for a sub simulcast, of course, but the dub faithful are a strong group that aren't going to put up with Nozawa no matter what. They'll gladly wait for the Toonami run(er, I mean, they'll watch it raw/fansubbed to satiate their appetites, but this isn't going to hurt the dub's performance in the least; they're essentially seen as two different products, even with a more faithful translation).

[Hellspawn28]

This is so hilarious!!! Everyone wants the story after EoZ, but they can't appreciate that they've got EoZ Gohan!
What is wrong with you people?!

Well Toriyama does not want a post-EOZ series since he feels like that the cast is too old. Not to mention you can still have young Goten and Trunks pre-EOZ allowing them to market those characters to younger boys in Japan ages 4 - 10. With EOZ, you have Uub, Pan and Bra. Bandai feels like female characters won't sell to younger boys and I'm not sure if Uub will be popular. They could have give us a second child of Gohan and Videl if they wanted another male kid in the series if they did post-EOZ.

[MCDaveG]

This is so hilarious!!! Everyone wants the story after EoZ, but they can't appreciate that they've got EoZ Gohan!
What is wrong with you people?!

Well Toriyama does not want a post-EOZ series since he feels like that the cast is too old. Not to mention you can still have young Goten and Trunks pre-EOZ allowing them to market those characters to younger boys in Japan ages 4 - 10. With EOZ, you have Uub, Pan and Bra. Bandai feels like female characters won't sell to younger boys and I'm not sure if Uub will be popular. They could have give us a second child of Gohan and Videl if they wanted another male kid in the series if they did post-EOZ.

It was funny post of course, because at the end of Z, Gohan is irrelevant (to the series' focus) scholar in tweed with glasses, watching Budokai from balcony...
In before Z new material, Gohan is irrelevant (to the series' focus) scholar, who can maybe go Super Saiyan... getting the tweed and stuff in the new series long before the End of Z.