"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Post by Ki Breaker » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:19 pm

perucho1990 wrote:
pacz360 wrote: Kinda doubt it tbh plus he never finish his fight with vegeta yet
Wait, I forgot about Bota Magetta, they might show up out of nowhere to save the saiyan girls.
Even considering Cabba does save her, earning the respect of someone who only talks nice when she needs something isn't possible..
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Post by pacz360 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:29 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
BlueBasilisk wrote:Toshio said on twitter that he's a big fan of Caulifla and Kale and can't wait for an upcoming episode that he wrote featuring them. Yamaguchi wrote 101 and Tomioka 102, so it sounds to me like the girls are staying in it til at least 103.
Toshio's next episode is 104.
I don't understand why would he spoil caulifla survival on twitter? That's something u keep a secret

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Post by Simere » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:31 pm

pacz360 wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:
BlueBasilisk wrote:Toshio said on twitter that he's a big fan of Caulifla and Kale and can't wait for an upcoming episode that he wrote featuring them. Yamaguchi wrote 101 and Tomioka 102, so it sounds to me like the girls are staying in it til at least 103.
Toshio's next episode is 104.
I don't understand why would he spoil caulifla survival on twitter? That's something u keep a secret
It could be audience banter.

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Post by perucho1990 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:36 pm

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Even considering Cabba does save her, earning the respect of someone who only talks nice when she needs something isn't possible..

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I would be fine if its just Kale thanking him and apologizing Cabba for what she did to him earlier on(episode 93).

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Post by pacz360 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:48 pm

Simere wrote:
pacz360 wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote: Toshio's next episode is 104.
I don't understand why would he spoil caulifla survival on twitter? That's something u keep a secret
It could be audience banter.
Theres that too all he said was that he wrote an episode about them not saying cauli wontbe eliminated

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Post by BlueBasilisk » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:54 pm

Or she's not really at risk of being eliminated and the NEP is just being misleading again. Hardly the first time that would have happened. We have no idea what's actually going on in that shot.

When will we get the next batch of episode titles? We've almost gone through the entire previous batch now.

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Post by precita » Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:52 pm

I wish they wouldn't spoil characters being taken out in summaries. Krillin being disqualified to Frost would have been a far bigger shock had the summaries not flat out told us what would happen.

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Post by Boo Machine » Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:56 pm

That's true, though some of the blame is on us, since we actively seek the spoilers. Or at least I do anyway.
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Post by The_Destroyer » Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:57 pm

precita wrote:I wish they wouldn't spoil characters being taken out in summaries. Krillin being disqualified to Frost would have been a far bigger shock had the summaries not flat out told us what would happen.
It was a shock because everyone assumed he would get himself eliminated by breaking the rules. In a way the mistranslation still gave use the satisfaction of being surprised.

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Post by ChibiGoku » Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:22 pm

MrBlackFox wrote: Could be great if Super switches to a more mature time slot, having more freedom to show some M for mature content again like in Z, but...maybe you've forgot two details that bring, sadly, this dream to die:

1)As far as we know, from now til October, Super could be over. If the tournament is the last arc, then we'll leap in Eoz, I predict for it to end late September at the latest
This is extremely unlikely. Dragon Ball Super moves merchandising and does well in ratings and DVR numbers. This is the most profitable the franchise has been in awhile and I seriously doubt all production committee members will let this gravy train stop. It's partially why Dragon Ball GT had happened previously, in order to continue to profit off the series.

2) Super is a show for kids, so this second point is linked to the first one: his slot could be occupied by another show cause we'll have no more Super in October
A change in target will not happen for Super, chances are higher if they ( and we'll have this 100% sure) will go past eoz with a brand new show with another name
No. Absolutely not. Most (if not all) time slots during the day are targeted towards children and family audiences. This has always been a thing. Even when Dragon Ball franchise was airing on Wednesdays at 7PM on Fuji TV, it was still very much targeted towards children. It's usually, to my understanding, anything after 9PM, is usually targeted older (as this is where a majority of Adult dramas tend to air on the various networks). There's also been a couple examples of kids programming airing late night (including one pre-school show) on some networks.

The likely reason Dragon Ball Super has extremely limited amount of blood is not likely tied to the time slot, but rather due to because of Toei being concerned about International marketing of the series. When Dragon Ball was originally in production, Toei had only been thinking of the Japanese market, which has less restrictions than most countries when it comes to children programming. When Toei began producing Dragon Ball Super, they made the show in mind that it could be easily repackaged on television (with some minor edits. Blood, especially moving blood, can be more difficult to edit on a regular basis). Toriko also was severally toned down at the beginning of the series, as Toei had been pushing for an International audience on the show. When it became clear that the show would not take off, they stopped removing all blood, some animal gore was restored, and the show was generally more violent. And this was for the same time slot that Dragon Ball Super was in.

So even if Dragon Ball Super were to move to a later time slot, the content will likely not change. One Piece gets away with more, likely due to the fact One Piece has struggled to break off into many markets. In general, it's not an easily safe show for most children's market from the get go, anyways. With Dragon Ball Super, Toei, Bandai, Shueisha, and Fuji TV, can control the content at the production and writing level, and keep more in mind of sensitivity of overseas markets. Which makes less work that localization team has to worry about making edits.

Is it true that standards have changed over the years? Absolutely. Part of the reason some stuff had been toned down has to do with the Tokyo Youth Ordinance passing (like some more extreme instances of violence and nudity that had been altered in Kai). But largely, content on television can still get away a lot more than you are seeing here.

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Post by GodKaio-Ken » Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:28 pm

ChibiGoku wrote:
MrBlackFox wrote: Could be great if Super switches to a more mature time slot, having more freedom to show some M for mature content again like in Z, but...maybe you've forgot two details that bring, sadly, this dream to die:

1)As far as we know, from now til October, Super could be over. If the tournament is the last arc, then we'll leap in Eoz, I predict for it to end late September at the latest
This is extremely unlikely. Dragon Ball Super moves merchandising and does well in ratings and DVR numbers. This is the most profitable the franchise has been in awhile and I seriously doubt all production committee members will let this gravy train stop. It's partially why Dragon Ball GT had happened previously, in order to continue to profit off the series.

2) Super is a show for kids, so this second point is linked to the first one: his slot could be occupied by another show cause we'll have no more Super in October
A change in target will not happen for Super, chances are higher if they ( and we'll have this 100% sure) will go past eoz with a brand new show with another name
No. Absolutely not. Most (if not all) time slots during the day are targeted towards children and family audiences. This has always been a thing. Even when Dragon Ball franchise was airing on Wednesdays at 7PM on Fuji TV, it was still very much targeted towards children. It's usually, to my understanding, anything after 9PM, is usually targeted older (as this is where a majority of Adult dramas tend to air on the various networks). There's also been a couple examples of kids programming airing late night (including one pre-school show) on some networks.

The likely reason Dragon Ball Super has extremely limited amount of blood is not likely tied to the time slot, but rather due to because of Toei being concerned about International marketing of the series. When Dragon Ball was originally in production, Toei had only been thinking of the Japanese market, which has less restrictions than most countries when it comes to children programming. When Toei began producing Dragon Ball Super, they made the show in mind that it could be easily repackaged on television (with some minor edits. Blood, especially moving blood, can be more difficult to edit on a regular basis). Toriko also was severally toned down at the beginning of the series, as Toei had been pushing for an International audience on the show. When it became clear that the show would not take off, they stopped removing all blood, some animal gore was restored, and the show was generally more violent. And this was for the same time slot that Dragon Ball Super was in.

So even if Dragon Ball Super were to move to a later time slot, the content will likely not change. One Piece gets away with more, likely due to the fact One Piece has struggled to break off into many markets. In general, it's not an easily safe show for most children's market from the get go, anyways. With Dragon Ball Super, Toei, Bandai, Shueisha, and Fuji TV, can control the content at the production and writing level, and keep more in mind of sensitivity of overseas markets. Which makes less work that localization team has to worry about making edits.

Is it true that standards have changed over the years? Absolutely. Part of the reason some stuff had been toned down has to do with the Tokyo Youth Ordinance passing (like some more extreme instances of violence and nudity that had been altered in Kai). But largely, content on television can still get away a lot more than you are seeing here.
This. I mean they showed Goku getting impaled through the chest and having it explained how his family was murdered. To me thats more than some blood here and there.

They obviously could go further but dont want to for the reasons you stated here. Pretty comprehensive cant add much but my little example.
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Post by KingKaash » Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:33 pm

I'm wondering if Kale will ever be able to control her LSSJ/Berserk SSJ form? I think there's a reason the writers didn't eliminate her by the hands of Jiren.

We know that Cabba, Caulifla and Kale are going to be allies to the U7 Saiyans as long as their Universe and Universe 7 are not erased. So I think it'd be cool to have an ally with the power of LSSJ/Berserk SSJ that is able to control that power and use it.

According to her DBS Wikia page, there is this "unidentified SSJ form" that Kale possesses that is in between a normal SSJ and Berserk SSJ. When I originally saw the scan image even before the ToP began, I thought that was Kale's SSJ form but at this point her Wikia suggests it might be an upgraded SSJ form. Again I hope Kale is able to make strides to control that extremely strong power she has so she can use it for good alongside Cabba and Caulifla

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Post by Jigurashi » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:12 pm

KingKaash wrote:I'm wondering if Kale will ever be able to control her LSSJ/Berserk SSJ form? I think there's a reason the writers didn't eliminate her by the hands of Jiren.

We know that Cabba, Caulifla and Kale are going to be allies to the U7 Saiyans as long as their Universe and Universe 7 are not erased. So I think it'd be cool to have an ally with the power of LSSJ/Berserk SSJ that is able to control that power and use it.

According to her DBS Wikia page, there is this "unidentified SSJ form" that Kale possesses that is in between a normal SSJ and Berserk SSJ. When I originally saw the scan image even before the ToP began, I thought that was Kale's SSJ form but at this point her Wikia suggests it might be an upgraded SSJ form. Again I hope Kale is able to make strides to control that extremely strong power she has so she can use it for good alongside Cabba and Caulifla

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Hopefully she does gain control over the form, as she'll likely be a far better character once doing so.

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Post by Hakaishin Liquir » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:20 pm

TheDipDap1234 wrote:What I think is going to happen in the next episode based on the NEP and Spoilers.

[spoiler]Goku is going to fight the frog Pride Trooper and easily knocks him off of the ring. Then Goku will get attacked by some Universe 3 fighters, who will most likely get ringed out too.
Kahseral will fight Android 17 and 18, and they will eliminate him. After that, the androids will have a huge chance of getting knocked out of the ring.
Master Roshi will fight with the female Pride Trooper Cocotte and possibly get eliminated at the end of the episode.
Vegeta will continue fighting with Cabba.
The little Pride Trooper and the one with a mustache are going to fight with Kale and Caulifla. Caulifla might get ringed out after saving Kale, and Kale will learn how to control her powers and eliminate the 2 Pride Troopers.[/spoiler]
So you think that half of the Pride Troopers are going to get eliminated in one episode?

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Post by GodKaio-Ken » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:24 pm

I like how theyve replaced flying with some weird floating infinite jump :lol:

They shouldnt have made that rule...whether they are or arent really the animation makes it look like someone is flying literally every other shot lol
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Post by perucho1990 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:15 pm

If Caulifla survives next episode then she would need some kind of powerup to be useful, the only option is if she gets ikari.

If Toei were smart, they would explain that Ikari is related to Kales "true saiyan mode" transformation or whatever its called.

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Post by kinisking » Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:23 pm

GodKaio-Ken wrote:I like how theyve replaced flying with some weird floating infinite jump :lol:

They shouldnt have made that rule...whether they are or arent really the animation makes it look like someone is flying literally every other shot lol
They've been doing long jumps since Dragonball.
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Post by Kanassa » Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:29 pm

Ki Breaker wrote: earning the respect of someone who only talks nice when she needs something isn't possible..
Which describes neither Kale nor Caulifla
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Post by Ki Breaker » Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:31 pm

Kanassa wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote: earning the respect of someone who only talks nice when she needs something isn't possible..
Which describes neither Kale nor Caulifla
It describes cauliflowa completely..
That's all she ever does with anyone she has met until now, except her sister..
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Post by Kanassa » Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:32 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:
Kanassa wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote: earning the respect of someone who only talks nice when she needs something isn't possible..
Which describes neither Kale nor Caulifla
It describes cauliflowa completely..
That's all she ever does with anyone she has met until now, except her sister..
You literally JUST contradicted yourself
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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