"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Xeztin » Sat Feb 20, 2016 5:56 pm

alakazam^ wrote:Boo isn't even as stronger as we was when he got out of his ball and no one knows what Frost's life has been like until now. He could very well be Ultimate Frost, for all we know.
I'm getting the feeling Frost is stronger than Freeza. If he's got that ultimate evolution (lets hope its silver) then the only one that can beat him power wise is Monaka. (Maybe) If Frieza trained for a year and learned to control that form I think Beerus would have his hands full.

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Post by TheMikado » Sat Feb 20, 2016 5:57 pm

And yet characters from GT like Rildo and Bebi are stronger than Buu. So why is it a big deal now?
None of the actually villains that were powerful enough to be a threat were biological. All the enemies in GT that were even a remote threat were CREATED. With the exception of Ledgic who Goku didn't even need to go SSJ against. When he does he completely overpowered him. Basically base Goku is likely the strongest natural creature in the universe in GT.

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Post by Tsufuru » Sat Feb 20, 2016 5:58 pm

Waaaait.
What rule says the other universe cant have strong ppl.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Xeztin » Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:07 pm

Tsufuru wrote:Waaaait.
What rule says the other universe cant have strong ppl.
None really, once you step foot in a different Universe all law's of the one you knew change, though I'm guessing since 6 and 7 are twins they work very similar. Universe 1 might be completely different, for example, there might not be death. Far fetched example but that's the only one I can think of at the moment. Universe 6's life might be born on Beerus level automatically for all we know. (again another far fetched example)

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Xeogran » Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:24 pm

Anyone's hoping Botamo will still get a fight in the future.

So far his Defense seems to be pretty OP, losing only by ring out.

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Post by fadeddreams5 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:38 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Dr. Gero created three cyborgs that are stronger than Freeza. The universe is a huge place, so there is always going to be stronger forces out there.
Yeah, they were created and specifically designed to kill Goku. Is it silly that some random human created beings stronger than a SSJ and Frieza without ever hearing about them? Yeah. But they're artificial.

The main gripe here is that natural beings are popping up that are light years beyond Majin Buu, a being the highest echelon of gods who oversee the entire universe feared. With Beerus and the gods of destruction, it's understandable. U6 is its own things, so that's fine too. Monaka? Not so much.

The power scaling in Super has just been really, really bad and unnecessarily over-the-top, which feels funny to write considering this is DB we're talking about.
"Dragon Ball once became a thing of the past to me, but after that, I got angry about the live action movie, re-wrote an entire movie script, and now I'm complaining about the quality of the new TV anime. It seems Dragon Ball has grown on me so much that I can't leave it alone." - Akira Toriyama on Dragon Ball Super

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by pacz360 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 7:24 pm

Thing that still bothers me is that where was monaka during the buu situation why didn't whis tell the kai's about him considering he could slaughter majin buu even at his peak or have beerus dealt with buu.

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Post by Retan » Sat Feb 20, 2016 7:30 pm

pacz360 wrote:Thing that still bothers me is that where was monaka during the buu situation why didn't whis tell the kai's about him considering he could slaughter majin buu even at his peak or have beerus dealt with buu.

They fear Beerus more then Buu, and I'm sure we'll find somethings wrong with Monaka.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Xeztin » Sat Feb 20, 2016 7:33 pm

Xeogran wrote:Anyone's hoping Botamo will still get a fight in the future.

So far his Defense seems to be pretty OP, losing only by ring out.
IF Botamo was an enemy, I think the only way Goku could defeat him is with a Sword or some sharp object.

pacz360 wrote:Thing that still bothers me is that where was monaka during the buu situation why didn't whis tell the kai's about him considering he could slaughter majin buu even at his peak or have beerus dealt with buu.
Beerus was asleep for 39 years I believe it was? and woke up recently in BOG. Monaka like stated above probably has something wrong with him, even Whis was worried about him being in the tournament when Beerus replied he'd take care of it. I'm guessing Monaka might be a Broly clone and go nuts when he transforms and tries to kill everyone. Actually now that I think about it, Monaka is very calm just like Broly... In his assumed base that is.

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Post by alakazam^ » Sat Feb 20, 2016 7:50 pm

Half an hour to possibly have one answer.

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Post by eledoremassis02 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 8:10 pm

Pre-Order for Volume one up on amazon Japan!

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/4088 ... UTF8&psc=1

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Xeztin » Sat Feb 20, 2016 8:15 pm

eledoremassis02 wrote:Pre-Order for Volume one up on amazon Japan!

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/4088 ... UTF8&psc=1
The fact that it is numbered one seems like there will be more volumes to come, which is great!

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Post by SansrivaaL » Sat Feb 20, 2016 8:23 pm

Well there we go, preview for the NEP just showed Goku going gold ssj, told yah so

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Feb 20, 2016 8:23 pm

Xeztin wrote:
eledoremassis02 wrote:Pre-Order for Volume one up on amazon Japan!

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/4088 ... UTF8&psc=1
The fact that it is numbered one seems like there will be more volumes to come, which is great!
Yeah, even though the anime is gonna get ahead of the manga very soon, I do certainly appreciate the how well the manga version of Super has been able to tell the story.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sat Feb 20, 2016 8:24 pm

SansrivaaL wrote:Well there we go, preview for the NEP just showed Goku going gold ssj, told yah so
I does look better animated, also they didn't get rid of SSGSS in the intro so it is deffo sticking around. Phew.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by TheMikado » Sat Feb 20, 2016 8:27 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote:Well there we go, preview for the NEP just showed Goku going gold ssj, told yah so
I does look better animated, also they didn't get rid of SSGSS in the intro so it is deffo sticking around. Phew.
Why would they? The show didn't even official reveal he went SSJ yet.
Plus it's not like they changed the DBZ intro the day Goku went SSJ either. He was rocking what appeared to be the kaioken attack for a long time.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Xeztin » Sat Feb 20, 2016 8:44 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
Xeztin wrote:
eledoremassis02 wrote:Pre-Order for Volume one up on amazon Japan!

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/4088 ... UTF8&psc=1
The fact that it is numbered one seems like there will be more volumes to come, which is great!
Yeah, even though the anime is gonna get ahead of the manga very soon, I do certainly appreciate the how well the manga version of Super has been able to tell the story.
Yeah, Toyotaro is doing an amazing job and is even stepping up the page count which could have been handicapped to prevent from jumping to far ahead of the anime. Now that it will soon be passed up by the anime, the page count might stay between 30 and 40 since it won't be "spoiling" anything.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by SansrivaaL » Sat Feb 20, 2016 8:44 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote:Well there we go, preview for the NEP just showed Goku going gold ssj, told yah so
I does look better animated, also they didn't get rid of SSGSS in the intro so it is deffo sticking around. Phew.
Yeah, I actually think it looks better than his blue mode, tho yes I highly doubt that we have seen the last of the blue God saiyan hair.
I wonder what happened inside RoSAT. :think:

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Xeztin » Sat Feb 20, 2016 8:51 pm

SansrivaaL wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote:Well there we go, preview for the NEP just showed Goku going gold ssj, told yah so
I does look better animated, also they didn't get rid of SSGSS in the intro so it is deffo sticking around. Phew.
Yeah, I actually think it looks better than his blue mode, tho yes I highly doubt that we have seen the last of the blue God saiyan hair.
I wonder what happened inside RoSAT. :think:
I really hope they don't let that epic sparking bro fist go without explanation.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by kidhero1000 » Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:20 am

So where are those who said this was Blue Super Saiyan at now? :wave:
He devolved into saying only one word. Time to hit the ol' cosmic trail.

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