"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[TekTheNinja]

If Toshio didn't want to interact with the fans, he wouldn't. He's a nice guy who seems perfectly content answering questions to me. You don't need to defend his honor or whatever like that.

Your post reminds me of the guy posting here that he wants Toriyama-san's address because he wants to give him a bottle of wine who then got mad when everyone here said to not even think about trying that out.

Toshio-san does not answer "because he is a good guy who does not mind". He answers because he has a job and a reputation to keep. And if you really think people involved in fictional work answer fan questions only because they are not a big bother you are wrong. As a matter of fact many people working on such stuff should just be left alone. That he answers some questions does not mean people should throw questions 24/7 at him. THAT is exactly what is not to do. With bothersome fans these people can only lose, no matter what they do.

How is that even remotely the same thing? You're comparing an invasion of privacy to replies on a social media website. That's stupid. Sure don't spam him or anything, but he doesn't even need to have a twitter if he didn't want to. He doesn't have to respond if he doesn't want to. It's not like anyone would get offended. He's shown absolutely no sign of being against getting questions on twitter. Stop white knighting the man. He doesn't need that.

[Lord Frieza]

Episode isnt even out and I'm salty about Frieza wrecking Murichim. You'd think the Universe who had a large focus last arc would be big player in this tournament. I get that there needs to be fodder but you'd think they'd at least give each universe one or two good fighters.

I think its a shame to, I'm also not happy about how some of the other universes are getting treated. I support U11 but I'd like to see them all shine a bit.

That being said you kind of answered your own question, U10 were the central universe last arc. It would be kind of boring if the next big threat came from there. In many way the nature of U10 as the meathead, body builder universe goes a long way to explaining why Zamasu would be unsatisfied with his universe's mortals. It would also explain why the Barbarians did not progress quickly.

I feel worse for U3, both its iconic warriors were very coldly dispatched.

[Cetra]

If Toshio didn't want to interact with the fans, he wouldn't. He's a nice guy who seems perfectly content answering questions to me. You don't need to defend his honor or whatever like that.

Your post reminds me of the guy posting here that he wants Toriyama-san's address because he wants to give him a bottle of wine who then got mad when everyone here said to not even think about trying that out.

Toshio-san does not answer "because he is a good guy who does not mind". He answers because he has a job and a reputation to keep. And if you really think people involved in fictional work answer fan questions only because they are not a big bother you are wrong. As a matter of fact many people working on such stuff should just be left alone. That he answers some questions does not mean people should throw questions 24/7 at him. THAT is exactly what is not to do. With bothersome fans these people can only lose, no matter what they do.

How is that even remotely the same thing? You're comparing an invasion of privacy to replies on a social media website. That's stupid. Sure don't spam him or anything, but he doesn't even need to have a twitter if he didn't want to. He doesn't have to respond if he doesn't want to. It's not like anyone would get offended. He's shown absolutely no sign of being against getting questions on twitter. Stop white knighting the man. He doesn't need that.

Your entire totally over the top-post about "white knighting" and all just because nowadays it is the hype to call something "white knightning" the moment someone defends something or someone that is not liked by another shows that your whole behaviour and mentality about this situation is absolutely inappropriate. I gave you an actual reason for why he can have an account and yet should not be bothered. The moment he gets too many unneccessary fan questions it is solely too much. The moment he decides "well, I won't answer 500/500 questions anymore" he automatically loses as well because he will get bashed by the fans as "just another guy who does not give a crap about them". And yes, it is absolutely comparable with the other case because fans always live under this magical assumption that they have some special rights to cross any borders of normal manner. It is not in the slightest any white knighting. It is common sense. "Don't open an account if you do not want to answer all of our questions" is not an acceptable and healthy argument at all. Especially when it is a response to the good old giving someone a finger and then they eat the entire hand. What you are talking about is dealing with absolute extremes. For him to answer all questions that people bother him with is too much asked for. For him to not asked it something that of course is not the man also does not want to do if he wants to be nice to the fans and do something for his reputation. And for him to "only answer what he wants" is also a situation the man loses with because the fans will still bash him for not caring about their questions. The man cannot win and what he doesn't need is not up to you to decide. No one wants to be in a lose-lose situation.

[TekTheNinja]

Your post reminds me of the guy posting here that he wants Toriyama-san's address because he wants to give him a bottle of wine who then got mad when everyone here said to not even think about trying that out.

Toshio-san does not answer "because he is a good guy who does not mind". He answers because he has a job and a reputation to keep. And if you really think people involved in fictional work answer fan questions only because they are not a big bother you are wrong. As a matter of fact many people working on such stuff should just be left alone. That he answers some questions does not mean people should throw questions 24/7 at him. THAT is exactly what is not to do. With bothersome fans these people can only lose, no matter what they do.

How is that even remotely the same thing? You're comparing an invasion of privacy to replies on a social media website. That's stupid. Sure don't spam him or anything, but he doesn't even need to have a twitter if he didn't want to. He doesn't have to respond if he doesn't want to. It's not like anyone would get offended. He's shown absolutely no sign of being against getting questions on twitter. Stop white knighting the man. He doesn't need that.

Your entire totally over the top-post about "white knighting" and all just because nowadays it is the hype to call something "white knightning" the moment someone defends something or someone that is not liked by another shows that your whole behaviour and mentality about this situation is absolutely inappropriate. I gave you an actual reason for why he can have an account and yet should not be bothered. The moment he gets too many unneccessary fan questions it is solely too much. The moment he decides "well, I won't answer 500/500 questions anymore" he automatically loses as well because he will get bashed by the fans as "just another guy who does not give a crap about them". And yes, it is absolutely comparable with the other case because fans always live under this magical assumption that they have some special rights to cross any borders of normal manner. It is not in the slightest any white knighting. It is common sense. "Don't open an account if you do not want to answer all of our questions" is not an acceptable and healthy argument at all. Especially when it is a response to the good old giving someone a finger and then they eat the entire hand. What you are talking about is dealing with absolute extremes. For him to answer all questions that people bother him with is too much asked for. For him to not asked it something that of course is not the man also does not want to do if he wants to be nice to the fans and do something for his reputation. And for him to "only answer what he wants" is also a situation the man loses with because the fans will still bash him for not caring about their questions. The man cannot win.

That's not my argument at all. I never said that the fans are entitled to shit. I said that Toshio didn't have to answer all of them if he doesn't want to, which he doesn't. You're the one saying he'll be bashed for ignoring a question. That's not true. You're the one acting like he's some poor man in need of defending. That's not true. You're the one making an issue where there is none and blowing the whole concept out of proportion.

Edit: And "white knighting" is a perfectly valid term for what you're doing. You're coming to the aid of a man who never asked or wanted to be defended.

[Cetra]

That's not my argument at all. I never said that the fans are entitled to shit. I said that Toshio didn't have to answer all of them if he doesn't want to, which he doesn't. You're the one saying he'll be bashed for ignoring a question. That's not true. You're the one acting like he's some poor man in need of defending. That's not true. You're the one making an issue where there is none and blowing the whole concept out of proportion.

"You are, you are, you are". Trying to shove the fault card to my side is not going to help you here. He is not bashed for ignoring a question, that's not true? Are you seriously and fully convinced of what you are saying here? Do you know how often writers are bashed for what they say and what they do not say? Do you know how much talk about the man has been posted online since he started answering questions? So yes, it IS true. And yes, it IS true, that he is a person that needs to be defended. There is nothing wrong to defend the space a person should have and it is sad that you simply do not understand that and always keep referring to the same thing that I have already answered twice by saying the man will have no chance this way. So no, I am not the one blowing this out of proportion, nor where those who first answered you. Your whole mentality is just extremely questionable because your respect for a man who posts on twitter is twisted just because you do not understand that the options he have are all to his own disadvantage.

Edit: And "white knighting" is a perfectly valid term for what you're doing. You're coming to the aid of a man who never asked or wanted to be defended.

Oh my, if we ever were to stand in for people who ask for help then this would be an incredible crappy world. I should not need to come in, that's true. You should know that people should not be bothered like this in the first place. I assume you also agree with people at games conventions who are incredibly rude to game developers and ask very impolite questions about what they think that game xx is not liked as much by some fans and stuff. There is stuff you just don't do. Your mentality of "don't go out if you don't want to be bothered by everyone" should be reconsidered by you and don't say you do not have this mentality because you flat disregarded any possibility that he could be bothered by arguments that already were shown to be flawed.

And I was not calling you out about the white knightning because it might not fit the context but because you follow the modern kids hype of overusing trendy words so they eventually lose their meaning via verbal inflation. I always try to get away from such hypes. I also don't call people "salty" just because it is trendy to call them that when they are angry about something.

[TekTheNinja]

That's not my argument at all. I never said that the fans are entitled to shit. I said that Toshio didn't have to answer all of them if he doesn't want to, which he doesn't. You're the one saying he'll be bashed for ignoring a question. That's not true. You're the one acting like he's some poor man in need of defending. That's not true. You're the one making an issue where there is none and blowing the whole concept out of proportion.

"You are, you are, you are". Trying to shove the fault card to my side is not going to help you here. He is not bashed for ignoring a question, that's not true? Are you seriously and fully convinced of what you are saying here? Do you know how often writers are bashed for what they say and what they do not say? Do you know how much talk about the man has been posted online since he started answering questions? So yes, it IS true. And yes, it IS true, that he is a person that needs to be defended. There is nothing wrong to defend the space a person should have and it is sad that you simply do not understand that and always keep referring to the same thing that I have already answered twice by saying the man will have no chance this way. So no, I am not the one blowing this out of proportion, nor where those who first answered you. Your whole mentality is just extremely questionable because your respect for a man who posts on twitter is twisted just because you do not understand that the options he have are all to his own disadvantage.

So now you admit to white knighting, while denying the term before? Heh. Sure. Just because it's supposedly "trendy" doesn't make it less true bud. I'm not denying that some questions and such are inappropriate, but that's just what happens to anyone with any amount of publicity on any social platform. "Oh poor Toshio-san, getting questions on the internet. Truly the worst fate one could have." Do you know how many dumb questions celebrities or even relatively small YouTubers get on Twitter? For most, a hell of a lot more then that of Toshio. That's just how things go, and nobody gives a shit. I doubt Toshio gives a shit either. Plus rather than having a casual conversation, you're the one who's put yourself on a pedestal because anyone who DARES to disagree that Toshio is a damsel in need of rescue MUST be a morally questionable asshole who you must look down upon. I hope I never disagree with you politically or something because if you can get this fed up while defending the honor of a guy you don't know personally on an internet forum, you'd probably go absolutely mental when you get in a disagreement about something that actually matters.

[superfan2024]

AAAAAAAAAND THERE WE HAVE IT! Just like what we saw in that announcement poster, we finally have seen a controlled Kale!

[Lord Beerus]

Yep. Kale can control her SSJ power now...

[superfan2024]

Yep. Kale can control his SSJ power now...

*Her

[Zamasu55]

Aaaaaand there we have the reused animation for the Ribrianne vs Vegeta fight.

PS: Looks like Piccolo's in danger. Don't you dare Toei.

[RedHeat]

Finally Kale managed to control her form. Can't wait to see the Broly comparisons drop like a rock.

[SansrivaaL]

Well there goes fit ssj Kale being stronger than her LSSJ one.... and for someone that just laid the smackdown on Goku last ep none of them were even calling it out let alone mention it.

[dbzfan7]

And her Broly form stays as her most powerful state, and something she will continue to use XD. Broly will haunt everyone forever XD. So much for it disappearing and the slim form being the perfect one.

[incarnati0n]

Thank god Kale finally controlled her form. Atleast now she gets to be her own character instead of a cheap copy of a mediocre character.

[Lord Beerus]

Yep. Kale can control his SSJ power now...

*Her

Half the time I think about Kale my mind wonders to Broly for... obvious reasons.

[Kanassa]

I TOLD YOU HE TELEPORTED!

[Zamasu55]

Omg is Freeza alright.

[TekTheNinja]

Damn. A Kale design I like a lot better, but but isn't as strong. Don't know whether that's a good or bad thing.

[superfan2024]

I TOLD YOU HE TELEPORTED!

Yes! Glad to know he's still in the tourny.

[Boo Machine]

I TOLD YOU HE TELEPORTED!

Happiness! At least that worry is off my mind.