"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

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Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Sun Mar 01, 2015 5:39 am

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Post by dbzfan7 » Sun Mar 01, 2015 5:45 am

I find it odd Mira is here. Towa would have been a better choice since she is the scientist. Maybe Mira is overseeing things for her?
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Post by Dyno » Sun Mar 01, 2015 5:48 am

dbzfan7 wrote:I find it odd Mira is here. Towa would have been a better choice since she is the scientist. Maybe Mira is overseeing things for her?
Not odd. This is marketing for Evil Bardock, in Dragon Ball Online, Bardock is totally related to Mira, Towa has nothing to do with him, so... Wherever Evil Bardock is, Mira comes along.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Mar 01, 2015 5:58 am

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dbzfan7 wrote:I find it odd Mira is here. Towa would have been a better choice since she is the scientist. Maybe Mira is overseeing things for her?
Not odd. This is marketing for Evil Bardock, in Dragon Ball Online, Bardock is totally related to Mira, Towa has nothing to do with him, so... Wherever Evil Bardock is, Mira comes along.
That's not necessarily true. We're told Bardock was rescued from Freeza by Mira and after that we see them together a total of once in TMQ4, by which point in time Bardock's mask has already been broken and he's attacking the Time Breaker. Every other time we see Bardock, he's alone.
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Post by Dyno » Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:15 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:That's not necessarily true. We're told Bardock was rescued from Freeza by Mira and after that we see them together a total of once in TMQ3, by which point in time Bardock's mask has already been broken and he's attacking the Time Breaker. Every other time we see Bardock, he's alone.
You already answered the poimt. "By which point Bardock's mask breaks"... That's not what DBH is covering at the moment.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:18 am

As I said though, every other time we see Bardock, he's alone. Including in TMQ3, where we first encounter him, and Mira is nowhere in sight. Implying Mira may have only shown up in TMQ4 when he realized Bardock's mask was no longer controlling him, and that the two don't always travel together.
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Post by Dyno » Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:03 pm

The official Dragon Ball Heroes website is updated.

Who will be the badass to put here that amazing wallpaper to me? 8)

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Post by jollyr » Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:45 pm

I've gotta be honest i would love to see DB Evolution Piccolo and Goku(with Oozaru transformation) id also like to see a Super Saiyan form for him even though I'm pretty sure Saiyans don't exist in that world. Anyone else with me??

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:55 pm

Dyno wrote:The official Dragon Ball Heroes website is updated.

Who will be the badass to put here that amazing wallpaper to me? 8)
It's not that hard to grab: http://www.carddass.com/dbh/image/common/bg_wrapper.jpg
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Post by Dyno » Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:02 pm

I don't know how to grab. :lol:

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:19 pm

And yes, the site updated with everything, even cards. Just been busy with Xenoverse.

Here are a couple new things:
--Oddly enough, card 16 is missing...
--Freeza's Revival of F card isn't just "Freeza", they are "Freeza: Revival" (Fukkatsu)
--We have double SECs again, but one of them is likely to be Freeza:Revival's 4th form since the icon is already on Sorbet and Tagoma's cards
--I guess the other SEC might be "Masked Saiyan"?

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Post by Dyno » Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:24 pm

I keep wondering if that Freeza might have been drawn by Toyotaro. :think:

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Post by jollyr » Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:55 am

Id also like to see a what id of Goku and Bulmas child. It could've happened ya know

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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:08 am

Dyno wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:I find it odd Mira is here. Towa would have been a better choice since she is the scientist. Maybe Mira is overseeing things for her?
Not odd. This is marketing for Evil Bardock, in Dragon Ball Online, Bardock is totally related to Mira, Towa has nothing to do with him, so... Wherever Evil Bardock is, Mira comes along.
Towa is in Dragon Ball Online. Can't quite remember if she created Mira in that version.

Now reading up it turns out she didn't.
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dbzfan7 wrote:It's Heroes. They always do this stuff all the time. They don't follow any sense of power level and scaling logic.
I know that, just look at SSJ3 Vegetto vs. Buff Buu. :lol:
I wanna know where these guys are getting their ridiculous powers of absurdity from. Sign me up for what Freeza and Bardock are getting.
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Post by Dyno » Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:02 pm

I couldn't fully understand you but Freeza is getting his power from his new movie, and Bardock through the mask/possessed form from Online. That mask or something when grabbed on a person can increase one's power a lot, if I'm not wrong.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:23 pm

GoldLiger wrote:Broly SS4 makes sense because it was the Black Smoke Shenron who gave him reason and made him into a Great Ape.
Actually, it seems that Broli can control his Oozaru form. Golden Oozaru Broli can still use his techniques in that form, and even create a new variation of it. If he couldn't control the form, then all he should be able to do is hit/graph/throw things around, and fire normal ki blasts from his mouth.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by GoldLiger » Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:52 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
GoldLiger wrote:Broly SS4 makes sense because it was the Black Smoke Shenron who gave him reason and made him into a Great Ape.
Actually, it seems that Broli can control his Oozaru form. Golden Oozaru Broli can still use his techniques in that form, and even create a new variation of it. If he couldn't control the form, then all he should be able to do is hit/graph/throw things around, and fire normal ki blasts from his mouth.
That is the whole "reason" thing i am talking about. Black Smoke shenron should have all the knowledge Regular Shenron has so he knows that a out a control Great Ape Broly would be impossible to control so he gave Broly the ability to MAINTAIN his REASON in the Great Ape form.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:32 pm

Black Smoke Shenlong doing anything in regards to Broli only applies to the commercial, which is just that. Just like the other commercials, it holds basically zero weight anywhere else in the franchise right now, including the actual game itself; where Broli transforms into the Super Ozaru and remains in control of himself in missions completely unrelated the said previously mentioned dragon.
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Post by EveBlaze31 » Mon Mar 02, 2015 6:41 pm

God! Sometimes I wish they'd make a Heroes anime, but the only way if could is with the XenoVerse time travel logic. That said why is it that Beat has 4 Ultimate Team Attacks and the other heroes only have one. DIMPS I know he's the face of Heroes but please.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:31 pm

GoldLiger wrote:That is the whole "reason" thing i am talking about. Black Smoke shenron should have all the knowledge Regular Shenron has so he knows that a out a control Great Ape Broly would be impossible to control so he gave Broly the ability to MAINTAIN his REASON in the Great Ape form.
The game has Broli maintain his reason without Black Smoke Shenlong, so it seems that Broli has actually learned how to maintain control of Oozaru, most likely from Paragus at a young age, before he became totally insane.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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