Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" On Blu-ray: News & Discussion

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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" On Blu-ray: News & Discussion

Post by qjz123 » Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:21 am

I just watched this video again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moAy02J2fd8 it's so depressing it just reminds me of what could have been. :x
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AjayLikesGaming wrote:If you put out untouched footage, someone like me is going to take it and turn it into a perfect release. Someone not like me is going to do the same and share it instead. You give pirates the opportunity to do better than companies and people will jump on that so fast.
This is an 80s/90s animated all-ages show that was popular amongst kids. It's not some potent super weapon that might fall into the wrong hands that we have to protect from evil.

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Post by qjz123 » Sun Mar 30, 2014 1:44 am

I uploaded 1 of extra's from the blu ray Inside Dragon Ball Z: Interview with Gen Fukunaga http://youtu.be/InFQqoa-tUs.
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Here's the second extra Inside Dragon Ball Z: Interview with John Burgmeier http://youtu.be/E10HK74K6SQ. It'll be in 1080p when it finishes processing.
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AjayLikesGaming wrote:If you put out untouched footage, someone like me is going to take it and turn it into a perfect release. Someone not like me is going to do the same and share it instead. You give pirates the opportunity to do better than companies and people will jump on that so fast.
This is an 80s/90s animated all-ages show that was popular amongst kids. It's not some potent super weapon that might fall into the wrong hands that we have to protect from evil.

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Post by B » Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:36 am

I was open to the idea of a behind-the-scenes look at the dub scripting... and then of course, one of the talking heads just gushes over the "ally to good" speech. :|
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B wrote:I was open to the idea of a behind-the-scenes look at the dub scripting... and then of course, one of the talking heads just gushes over the "ally to good" speech. :|
He actually bragged about how that wasn't in the Japanese version and he gave the english writers huge props for adding that in :crazy: I face palmed so hard.
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AjayLikesGaming wrote:If you put out untouched footage, someone like me is going to take it and turn it into a perfect release. Someone not like me is going to do the same and share it instead. You give pirates the opportunity to do better than companies and people will jump on that so fast.
This is an 80s/90s animated all-ages show that was popular amongst kids. It's not some potent super weapon that might fall into the wrong hands that we have to protect from evil.

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B wrote:I was open to the idea of a behind-the-scenes look at the dub scripting... and then of course, one of the talking heads just gushes over the "ally to good" speech. :|
I still don't get what's bad about that speech.

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Post by Puto » Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:18 am

It's completely out of character. It sounds like something the Great Saiyaman would say rather than Gokū.
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Post by ACCloud » Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:18 am

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B wrote:I was open to the idea of a behind-the-scenes look at the dub scripting... and then of course, one of the talking heads just gushes over the "ally to good" speech. :|
I still don't get what's bad about that speech.
In isolation from Dragon Ball, I'd say it's fine. But it's more of a Superman speech, if he was feeling a bit up himself (with the whole 'I am truth', etc.). A person who has lost themselves to rage (a Super Saiyan) and is (at that point) toying with the person that they plan to kill isn't exactly the answer to all living things that cry out for peace. He's not there to protect the innocent, he's there to get revenge for the death of his friend. That's why I don't like it, at least - it kinda misses the point.

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Post by JackyBoi99 » Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:32 am

The speech also sounds really wooden and flat.
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Post by ABED » Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:47 am

ACCloud wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan » Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:02 pm
B wrote:I was open to the idea of a behind-the-scenes look at the dub scripting... and then of course, one of the talking heads just gushes over the "ally to good" speech. :|
I still don't get what's bad about that speech.
In isolation from Dragon Ball, I'd say it's fine. But it's more of a Superman speech, if he was feeling a bit up himself (with the whole 'I am truth', etc.). A person who has lost themselves to rage (a Super Saiyan) and is (at that point) toying with the person that they plan to kill isn't exactly the answer to all living things that cry out for peace. He's not there to protect the innocent, he's there to get revenge for the death of his friend. That's why I don't like it, at least - it kinda misses the point.
What era of Superman are you talking about? MAYBE Superfriends era Superman, but I don't think Superman has ever made a speech that over the top and flowery.
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Post by Puto » Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:57 am

If anything, it reminds me of Batman's ‘I am vengeance. I am the night. I am Batman!’
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Post by Ajay » Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:19 am

Puto wrote:If anything, it reminds me of Batman's ‘I am vengeance. I am the night. I am Batman!’
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Post by B » Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:19 am

They should honestly redo this interview for the Buu arc of Kai and talk to J. Michael Tatum.
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Post by Ajay » Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:14 am

qjz123 wrote:Here's the second extra Inside Dragon Ball Z: Interview with John Burgmeier http://youtu.be/E10HK74K6SQ.
I'm literally 60 seconds in and I'm already mad. I'm totally gobsmacked by the sheer arrogance and nerve of some of these people.

Wholeheartedly believing their translation made the show better than the original. I mean...really?!

Nothing wrong with being proud of your work despite others' feelings but c'mon now.

EDIT: Paha, that Freeza clip just made something click in my brain and I've finally worked out who they made him sound like...
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AjayLikesGaming wrote:
qjz123 wrote:Here's the second extra Inside Dragon Ball Z: Interview with John Burgmeier http://youtu.be/E10HK74K6SQ.
I'm literally 60 seconds in and I'm already mad. I'm totally gobsmacked by the sheer arrogance and nerve of some of these people.

Wholeheartedly believing their translation made the show better than the original. I mean...really?!

Nothing wrong with being proud of your work despite others' feelings but c'mon now.
Agreed. At least Sabat was open and honest about the shortcommings of those early episodes.
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Post by Metalwario64 » Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:21 am

What? Are Schemmel and Sabat the only ones at FUNimation who didn't like the way the Z dub was handled?
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Post by ABED » Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:23 am

No, Sonny Strait and Kyle Hebert have been pretty open about their disagreements with DBZ's dub.
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Post by Puto » Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:24 am

AjayLikesGaming wrote:
qjz123 wrote:Here's the second extra Inside Dragon Ball Z: Interview with John Burgmeier http://youtu.be/E10HK74K6SQ.
I'm literally 60 seconds in and I'm already mad. I'm totally gobsmacked by the sheer arrogance and nerve of some of these people.

Wholeheartedly believing their translation made the show better than the original. I mean...really?!

Nothing wrong with being proud of your work despite others' feelings but c'mon now.
Mind you, the guy who said that at the start doesn't work for FUNimation, he's Ben from ScrewAttack.
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Post by Metalwario64 » Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:26 am

ABED wrote:No, Sonny Strait and Kyle Hebert have been pretty open about their disagreements with DBZ's dub.
I see.
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Post by Ajay » Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:29 am

Puto wrote:Mind you, the guy who said that at the start doesn't work for FUNimation, he's Ben from ScrewAttack.
This is true but all these people and their cutaways are put in there by someone at FUNimation. It's on their product. There's clearly some pride there.
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Post by ABED » Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:38 am

I can see where Gen is coming from when he talks about adapting material for the states, and I even agree that going with Z first was a smart move, but the idea that DBZ needed as drastic a makeover as it got is absurd. DB is an action adventure series, and that's universal. People understand fighting, which is why Bruce Lee movies and wrestling is popular all over the world. I'm sure there are some series that don't translate across cultures, but DB isn't one of those stories.

I found it very interesting that Zero was Goku's dub name even after the Harmony Gold dub. Unless my ears deceive me, that's not Barbara Goodson, that was Saphron Henderson.
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