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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:03 pm

Bansho64 wrote:
8000 Saiyan wrote:Don't know if this is unpopular or not, but I find Majin Buu to be completely intolerable in English.
Same. I really do hate that voice.
At least when he becomes Super Buu, his voice gets better.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

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8000 Saiyan wrote:
Bansho64 wrote:
8000 Saiyan wrote:Don't know if this is unpopular or not, but I find Majin Buu to be completely intolerable in English.
Same. I really do hate that voice.
At least when he becomes Super Buu, his voice gets better.
Well I guess it's an unpopular opinion when I say that I like the english version.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:13 pm

Vegetto, Gotenks, Gohan and Super Buu are massively overrated.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by kinisking » Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:14 pm

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Jinzoningen MULE wrote:You can like her, but she had no personality. It's the same as the Gohan problem. Just because they have a family doesn't mean that they shouldn't have any pronounced character traits. Quite the opposite, even.
F'real.

I have no problem with Gohan and Videl settling down, but it's incredibly disappointing that outside of very occasional Great Saiyaman antics for Gohan alone, we only ever see them engaging in the most boring, generic domestic activities. Videl in particular has no distinct characterization outside of being a wife and mother now. That's not an exaggeration. I defy anyone to point me toward an episode of Super that indicates an identifiable personality except for one reference to her (former?) interest in the martial arts.
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Episode 14. Videl gives an evil eye to her father because he's being a coward.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by kinisking » Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:16 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:Vegetto, Gotenks, Gohan and Super Buu are massively overrated.
Lmao. My favorite fusion,my favorite design( definitely top 2 at least), my favorite character, and my favorite villian. Hurts man :lol:
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Bansho64 » Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:24 pm

kinisking wrote: [spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
Episode 14. Videl gives an evil eye to her father because he's being a coward.
That's an evil eye? That looks more like disappointment. I'd barely even call it that. It's nothing compared to the glares she use to give Gohan.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by kinisking » Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:29 pm

Bansho64 wrote:
kinisking wrote: [spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
Episode 14. Videl gives an evil eye to her father because he's being a coward.
That's an evil eye? That looks more like disappointment. I'd barely even call it that. It's nothing compared to the glares she use to give Gohan.
He was backing up until she gave him that look. Afterwards, he went to go fight because of her. She was basically forcing him to be a man. It's the intention of that face. Not my fault if the art was bad.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:37 pm

I don't think there's one English Master Roshi voice that sounds great.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Bansho64 » Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:39 pm

kinisking wrote: He was backing up until she gave him that look. Afterwards, he went to go fight because of her. She was basically forcing him to be a man. It's the intention of that face. Not my fault if the art was bad.
She's still pretty soft though. I don't expect her to shove her foot up someone's backside but it's gotta be more than that. A little more intensity is what I think she needs.
8000 Saiyan wrote:I don't think there's one English Master Roshi voice that sounds great.
I wholeheartedly agree with this.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:42 pm

kinisking wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:Vegetto, Gotenks, Gohan and Super Buu are massively overrated.
Lmao. My favorite fusion,my favorite design( definitely top 2 at least), my favorite character, and my favorite villian. Hurts man :lol:
I meant in terms of power, sure they're cool in terms of character and design but I hate it when people inflate their power to absurd levels.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by kinisking » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:16 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
kinisking wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:Vegetto, Gotenks, Gohan and Super Buu are massively overrated.
Lmao. My favorite fusion,my favorite design( definitely top 2 at least), my favorite character, and my favorite villian. Hurts man :lol:
I meant in terms of power, sure they're cool in terms of character and design but I hate it when people inflate their power to absurd levels.
Oh :lol: Still, I think super boo and Gohan are actually underestimated a lot. People still think that superboo< kid boo and ultimate<ssj3 goku. Vegetto is definitely overestimated though. I think the most overestimated character is definitely Broly ofc.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:27 pm

kinisking wrote:
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kinisking wrote: Lmao. My favorite fusion,my favorite design( definitely top 2 at least), my favorite character, and my favorite villian. Hurts man :lol:
I meant in terms of power, sure they're cool in terms of character and design but I hate it when people inflate their power to absurd levels.
Oh :lol: Still, I think super boo and Gohan are actually underestimated a lot. People still think that superboo< kid boo and ultimate<ssj3 goku. Vegetto is definitely overestimated though. I think the most overestimated character is definitely Broly ofc.
Maybe in other places, but on this forum they're definitely way too high. I've seen several people claim Gotenks and Super Buu are 10x SSJ3 Goku and Ultimate Gohan is much higher than even that. There's even some people who believe Base Gotenks > SSJ3 Goku and therefore Gotenks and Buu are hundreds of times stronger than SSJ3 Goku.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by nickzambuto » Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:44 am

TheUltimateNinja wrote:Vegetto, Gotenks, Gohan and Super Buu are massively overrated.
How so? Do you think the latter three are stronger than Goku?

With Vegetto, I think that people such as myself just like to think of him as being as stupidly overpowered as possible, because he's the very apex of DBZ. It's fitting to think of him as being pretty much invincible.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:40 pm

Dragon Ball Super at its best has provided better animation than Dragon Ball, Z and GT at their best.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

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Lord Beerus wrote:Dragon Ball Super at its best has provided better animation than Dragon Ball, Z and GT at their best.
What about at its worst?

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Cetra » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:48 pm

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Lord Beerus wrote:Dragon Ball Super at its best has provided better animation than Dragon Ball, Z and GT at their best.
What about at its worst?
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:13 pm

Despite unnecessary name changes, I think that the Harmony Gold dub had pretty good voices. With better direction, I think Barbara Goodson and Wendee Lee could have been amazing as Kid Goku and Bulma.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:48 pm

8000 Saiyan wrote:
Bansho64 wrote:
8000 Saiyan wrote:Don't know if this is unpopular or not, but I find Majin Buu to be completely intolerable in English.
Same. I really do hate that voice.
At least when he becomes Super Buu, his voice gets better.
Cook is a terrible actor, but still preferable to Martin's high pitched take on fat Buu.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Anime Kitten » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:50 pm

I like all of the Buu voices. To add to that, I'm not fond of his single Japanese voice, especially (but not limited to) in Super.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:54 pm

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8000 Saiyan wrote:
Bansho64 wrote: Same. I really do hate that voice.
At least when he becomes Super Buu, his voice gets better.
Cook is a terrible actor, but still preferable to Martin's high pitched take on fat Buu.
I wouldn't call Justin Cook a terrible voice actor, he's a very good one, and he was great as Yusuke Urameshi. I know you'll say his Raditz is over-the-top, but hey, Dragon Ball is not a subtle show, and less is not always more.
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