Bullza wrote:I was curious about what this game was so I looked it up on YouTube and it looks like complete shit, why was it so popular in Japan?
Why is it shit?
It has good gameplay for what it is and rewards preparing strategies in battle. Of course it's main gimmick is the characters and the cards, but even then it's not actually a bad game.
The game itself is boring, I'll have to agree. It is pretty repetitive, but what makes Dragon Ball Heroes awesome is its amazing roster/characters. Many are creative, such as Buu with Babidi absorbed. In general, it is at least interesting.
GoldLiger wrote:Also does anyone know what RoF Goku transforms into in Heroes?
Screencap says
じふんチーム
アビリティいこか
神を超えたサイヤ人
パワーアップした
He's powered up "beyond god" apparently, if I'm reading correctly.
*Incredibly tempted to say ssjg2, but won't because doesn't want to start rumors and not even sure if she translated it right anyway.*
"Player Team Ability: Powers up into a Saiyan who's surpassed a god."
GoldLiger wrote:Also does anyone know what RoF Goku transforms into in Heroes?
Screencap says
じふんチーム
アビリティいこか
神を超えたサイヤ人
パワーアップした
He's powered up "beyond god" apparently, if I'm reading correctly.
*Incredibly tempted to say ssjg2, but won't because doesn't want to start rumors and not even sure if she translated it right anyway.*
"Player Team Ability: Powers up into a Saiyan who's surpassed a god."
What does that mean because I have seen the physical card and it is exactly like one of the transformation cards Heroes normally have. Anyone seen a video of someone using it?
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Ah. Thank you, Dragon Ball Heroes! So it is indeed a power-up rather than a transformation, though actually in the game (the video I posted yestarday) they treated it as a transformation sequence. Lol.
Dyno wrote:Ah. Thank you, Dragon Ball Heroes! So it is indeed a power-up rather than a transformation, though actually in the game (the video I posted yestarday) they treated it as a transformation sequence. Lol.
Actually RoF Goku has multiple cards you know so they may have confused one with the other one we are talking about.
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Yes, there are indeed. But there is only one card (actually two now, as I type, another one appeared) which Kakarot has the ability to power-up to that form. And fortunately it is the card with the following spelling "神を超えたサイヤ人". It is the same spelling Chuquita has posted and what we want to know exactly.
Dyno wrote:Yes, there are indeed. But there is only one card (actually two now, as I type, another one appeared) which Kakarot has the ability to power-up to that form. And fortunately it is the card with the following spelling "神を超えたサイヤ人". It is the same spelling Chuquita has posted and what we want to know exactly.
Dyno wrote:Yes. You may want to check the official "Fukkatsu no F" topic, I posted it there.
So let me get this straight. In the last movie they showed that Goku can go SSG alone and instead of keeping the form for future movies they make the form non relevant at all?
What is going on in that mind of his?
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Dyno wrote:Yes. You may want to check the official "Fukkatsu no F" topic, I posted it there.
So let me get this straight. In the last movie they showed that Goku can go SSG alone and instead of keeping the form for future movies they make the form non relevant at all?
What is going on in that mind of his?
Yes it's a pretty big cop-out, introducing Super Saiyan God, only to make it irrelevant anyways.
I'm still holding out hope for ssjg Gokû anyway. Mostly because of that magenta lightning on the poster. Could mean nothing, but until we get an official confirmation, I'll continue hoping.
Dyno wrote:Yes. You may want to check the official "Fukkatsu no F" topic, I posted it there.
So let me get this straight. In the last movie they showed that Goku can go SSG alone and instead of keeping the form for future movies they make the form non relevant at all?
What is going on in that mind of his?
Yes it's a pretty big cop-out, introducing Super Saiyan God, only to make it irrelevant anyways.
Every Super Saiyan transformation goes through this. SSJ1 proved to only relevant for two major battles, Freeza and #19, once the #16, #17 and #18 were introduced, SSJ1 become so last season. Then SSJ2 was introduced, again, only proved to be relevant for a short space of time, then Majin Boo arrived and SSJ2 practically became useless. Hell, Gotenks skipped SSJ2, opting to go straight for SSJ3 instead. Then SSJ3 became old hat in the once Super Buu arrived and beyond.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
We fully know Dragon Ball Heroes for what it is, but... I'm inclined to believe they wouldn't do that for no reason at all, I highly believe that state is indeed Super Saiyan God, but no change was made because it is not a transformation, just a power-up-having-access-to-Super Saiyan God's power. Kinda odd, I must say. If Heroes and I are correct, then Super Saiyan God form was also added to that list of forms now forgettable, like Super Saiyan 2 and Super Saiyan 3. Introduced only to be forgotten later on, really sad, isn't?
Dyno wrote:We fully know Dragon Ball Heroes for what it is, but... I'm inclined to believe they wouldn't do that for no reason at all, I highly believe that state is indeed Super Saiyan God, but no change was made because it is not a transformation, just a power-up-having-access-to-Super Saiyan God's power. Kinda odd, I must say. If Heroes and I are correct, then Super Saiyan God form was also added to that list of forms now forgettable, like Super Saiyan 2 and Super Saiyan 3. Introduced only to be forgotten later on, really sad, isn't?
But who knows? We might see it in Vegeta.
But don't you remember AT already invented a form that takes out your full potential without the need of the SS transformation. It's called the Potential Unleashed/Old Kai's Unlock Potential/Mystic Form/Ultimate Form/etc..
Is this the reason why AT made Gohan go SS in the movie? Because he rather have Goku and Vegeta with the Ultimate Form.
This is just another example of AT really trying to destroy his own work. They really should have never brought him from retirement.
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dbgtFO wrote:Yes it's a pretty big cop-out, introducing Super Saiyan God, only to make it irrelevant anyways.
Every Super Saiyan transformation goes through this. SSJ1 proved to only relevant for two major battles, Freeza and #19, once the #16, #17 and #18 were introduced, SSJ1 become so last season. Then SSJ2 was introduced, again, only proved to be relevant for a short space of time, then Majin Boo arrived and SSJ2 practically became useless. Hell, Gotenks skipped SSJ2, opting to go straight for SSJ3 instead. Then SSJ3 became old hat in the once Super Buu arrived and beyond.
My complaint is more that this entirely new transformation is introduced, but then it's written out of the series, because Goku can now use its power even without transforming. It just seems like Toriyama made it not spectacular, so there wouldn't be much fan uproar, once it had become clear Goku likely wouldn't be using it anymore.
