"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

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Post by Darknat » Fri Mar 13, 2015 6:17 am

Bullza wrote:I was curious about what this game was so I looked it up on YouTube and it looks like complete shit, why was it so popular in Japan?
Why is it shit?

It has good gameplay for what it is and rewards preparing strategies in battle. Of course it's main gimmick is the characters and the cards, but even then it's not actually a bad game.

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Post by GoldLiger » Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:51 am

Great Ape Evil Bardock Gameplay:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8YupQFRlhQ
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Post by Dyno » Fri Mar 13, 2015 12:01 pm

The game itself is boring, I'll have to agree. It is pretty repetitive, but what makes Dragon Ball Heroes awesome is its amazing roster/characters. Many are creative, such as Buu with Babidi absorbed. In general, it is at least interesting.

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Post by Xeogran » Fri Mar 13, 2015 12:34 pm

It's not boring if you've ever played it. It has a lot of mechanics these days which are fun to do, with real cards at that.

Videos do not give the same experience.

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Post by NeoKING » Fri Mar 13, 2015 2:19 pm

Chuquita wrote:
GoldLiger wrote:Also does anyone know what RoF Goku transforms into in Heroes?
Screencap says
じふんチーム
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He's powered up "beyond god" apparently, if I'm reading correctly.
*Incredibly tempted to say ssjg2, but won't because doesn't want to start rumors and not even sure if she translated it right anyway.*
"Player Team Ability: Powers up into a Saiyan who's surpassed a god."

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Post by GoldLiger » Fri Mar 13, 2015 2:30 pm

NeoKING wrote:
Chuquita wrote:
GoldLiger wrote:Also does anyone know what RoF Goku transforms into in Heroes?
Screencap says
じふんチーム
アビリティいこか
神を超えたサイヤ人
パワーアップした
He's powered up "beyond god" apparently, if I'm reading correctly.
*Incredibly tempted to say ssjg2, but won't because doesn't want to start rumors and not even sure if she translated it right anyway.*
"Player Team Ability: Powers up into a Saiyan who's surpassed a god."
What does that mean because I have seen the physical card and it is exactly like one of the transformation cards Heroes normally have. Anyone seen a video of someone using it?
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Post by Dyno » Fri Mar 13, 2015 2:40 pm

Ah. Thank you, Dragon Ball Heroes! So it is indeed a power-up rather than a transformation, though actually in the game (the video I posted yestarday) they treated it as a transformation sequence. Lol.

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Post by GoldLiger » Fri Mar 13, 2015 2:59 pm

Dyno wrote:Ah. Thank you, Dragon Ball Heroes! So it is indeed a power-up rather than a transformation, though actually in the game (the video I posted yestarday) they treated it as a transformation sequence. Lol.
Actually RoF Goku has multiple cards you know so they may have confused one with the other one we are talking about.
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Post by Dyno » Fri Mar 13, 2015 3:08 pm

Yes, there are indeed. But there is only one card (actually two now, as I type, another one appeared) which Kakarot has the ability to power-up to that form. And fortunately it is the card with the following spelling "神を超えたサイヤ人". It is the same spelling Chuquita has posted and what we want to know exactly.

The newest card I talked about it just now also presents the same: "神を超えたサイヤ人".

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Post by GoldLiger » Fri Mar 13, 2015 3:14 pm

Dyno wrote:Yes, there are indeed. But there is only one card (actually two now, as I type, another one appeared) which Kakarot has the ability to power-up to that form. And fortunately it is the card with the following spelling "神を超えたサイヤ人". It is the same spelling Chuquita has posted and what we want to know exactly.

The newest card I talked about it just now also presents the same: "神を超えたサイヤ人".
It even has a shot of his face with a > going to a ?. So what form do you think Goku has? SSG?
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Post by Dyno » Fri Mar 13, 2015 3:21 pm

That is what we have been discussed. :|

It is a powered-up form/state, nothing change, as stated/written in red.

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Post by GoldLiger » Fri Mar 13, 2015 3:28 pm

Dyno wrote:That is what we have been discussed. :|

It is a powered-up form/state, nothing change, as stated/written in red.
Any videos of this powered-up form in action yet?
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Post by Dyno » Fri Mar 13, 2015 3:31 pm

Yes. You may want to check the official "Fukkatsu no F" topic, I posted it there.

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Post by GoldLiger » Fri Mar 13, 2015 4:21 pm

Dyno wrote:Yes. You may want to check the official "Fukkatsu no F" topic, I posted it there.
So let me get this straight. In the last movie they showed that Goku can go SSG alone and instead of keeping the form for future movies they make the form non relevant at all?

What is going on in that mind of his?
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Post by dbgtFO » Fri Mar 13, 2015 4:31 pm

GoldLiger wrote:
Dyno wrote:Yes. You may want to check the official "Fukkatsu no F" topic, I posted it there.
So let me get this straight. In the last movie they showed that Goku can go SSG alone and instead of keeping the form for future movies they make the form non relevant at all?

What is going on in that mind of his?
Yes it's a pretty big cop-out, introducing Super Saiyan God, only to make it irrelevant anyways.

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Post by Chuquita » Fri Mar 13, 2015 4:35 pm

I'm still holding out hope for ssjg Gokû anyway. Mostly because of that magenta lightning on the poster. Could mean nothing, but until we get an official confirmation, I'll continue hoping.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Mar 13, 2015 4:44 pm

dbgtFO wrote:
GoldLiger wrote:
Dyno wrote:Yes. You may want to check the official "Fukkatsu no F" topic, I posted it there.
So let me get this straight. In the last movie they showed that Goku can go SSG alone and instead of keeping the form for future movies they make the form non relevant at all?

What is going on in that mind of his?
Yes it's a pretty big cop-out, introducing Super Saiyan God, only to make it irrelevant anyways.
Every Super Saiyan transformation goes through this. SSJ1 proved to only relevant for two major battles, Freeza and #19, once the #16, #17 and #18 were introduced, SSJ1 become so last season. Then SSJ2 was introduced, again, only proved to be relevant for a short space of time, then Majin Boo arrived and SSJ2 practically became useless. Hell, Gotenks skipped SSJ2, opting to go straight for SSJ3 instead. Then SSJ3 became old hat in the once Super Buu arrived and beyond.

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Post by Dyno » Fri Mar 13, 2015 4:47 pm

We fully know Dragon Ball Heroes for what it is, but... I'm inclined to believe they wouldn't do that for no reason at all, I highly believe that state is indeed Super Saiyan God, but no change was made because it is not a transformation, just a power-up-having-access-to-Super Saiyan God's power. Kinda odd, I must say. If Heroes and I are correct, then Super Saiyan God form was also added to that list of forms now forgettable, like Super Saiyan 2 and Super Saiyan 3. Introduced only to be forgotten later on, really sad, isn't?

But who knows? We might see it in Vegeta.

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Post by GoldLiger » Fri Mar 13, 2015 5:01 pm

Dyno wrote:We fully know Dragon Ball Heroes for what it is, but... I'm inclined to believe they wouldn't do that for no reason at all, I highly believe that state is indeed Super Saiyan God, but no change was made because it is not a transformation, just a power-up-having-access-to-Super Saiyan God's power. Kinda odd, I must say. If Heroes and I are correct, then Super Saiyan God form was also added to that list of forms now forgettable, like Super Saiyan 2 and Super Saiyan 3. Introduced only to be forgotten later on, really sad, isn't?

But who knows? We might see it in Vegeta.
But don't you remember AT already invented a form that takes out your full potential without the need of the SS transformation. It's called the Potential Unleashed/Old Kai's Unlock Potential/Mystic Form/Ultimate Form/etc..

Is this the reason why AT made Gohan go SS in the movie? Because he rather have Goku and Vegeta with the Ultimate Form.

This is just another example of AT really trying to destroy his own work. They really should have never brought him from retirement.
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Post by dbgtFO » Fri Mar 13, 2015 5:53 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
dbgtFO wrote:Yes it's a pretty big cop-out, introducing Super Saiyan God, only to make it irrelevant anyways.
Every Super Saiyan transformation goes through this. SSJ1 proved to only relevant for two major battles, Freeza and #19, once the #16, #17 and #18 were introduced, SSJ1 become so last season. Then SSJ2 was introduced, again, only proved to be relevant for a short space of time, then Majin Boo arrived and SSJ2 practically became useless. Hell, Gotenks skipped SSJ2, opting to go straight for SSJ3 instead. Then SSJ3 became old hat in the once Super Buu arrived and beyond.
My complaint is more that this entirely new transformation is introduced, but then it's written out of the series, because Goku can now use its power even without transforming. It just seems like Toriyama made it not spectacular, so there wouldn't be much fan uproar, once it had become clear Goku likely wouldn't be using it anymore.

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