Unpopular DB opinions

[Anime Kitten]

Another is them using honorifics for Frieza. He's a genocidal asshole, why would you refer to him with -sama?

That's like asking why FUNimation uses Lord Frieza. I don't know much about Japanese, but isn't Freeza-sama essentially the same as Lord Freeza?

[Bansho64]

Why do Krillin and Gohan do it, though? Or Dende?

I mean, he's a person with high superiority over them. Sama is literally a more respectful version of the san honorific used for someone with a higher rank over one's self.

That's like asking why FUNimation uses Lord Frieza. I don't know much about Japanese, but isn't Freeza-sama essentially the same as Lord Freeza?

Yup.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

I never had a problem with Nozawa as Adult Goku.

I'll admit it sounded different on first listen especially because I started the Japanese version with Z, but by the end of the Saiyan arc I ended up loving her portrayal of adult Goku. It's just a perfect fit for the character all things considered (being a manchild, a country bumpkin, phenomenal screaming ability). Schemmel has improved tremendously for sure, and I can picture adult Goku with his voice without issues, but he's still no Nozawa.

[Dbzfan94]

I suppose there are other reasons. Another is them using honorifics for Frieza. He's a genocidal asshole, why would you refer to him with -sama?

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't remember the Z Fighters ever saying "Lord Freeza/Freeza-sama" besides maybe Vegeta (but only mockingly)

[Anime Kitten]

This is unpopular on here, I believe.
I prefer "Say-yan" to "Sigh-yan".

[8000 Saiyan]

Although he pales in comparison to Gori, I think Ishizuka is okay as Mr. Satan, although I think Kenta Miyake would have been a better choice.

[Sailor Haumea]

This is unpopular on here, I believe.
I prefer "Say-yan" to "Sigh-yan".

Me too!

[ABED]

]It's not an opinion.

It is. Just like me Cook's Super Buu is awesome is an opinion.

There are some objectively bad actors.

His Super Buu just sounds like Generic Loud Cartoon Villain.

To me, rasp works for certain characters like Wolverine but not Vegeta or Tenshinhan. Sabat's Vegeta in Z was way too raspy to the point that his range of emotions were limited. And by the way, do you think Midorikawa is much better than Suzuoki?

I honestly couldn't tell you the difference between the two JPN Tenshinhan actors unless I heard them side by side. I can easily hear the difference between Miyauchi and the other actors who played Muten Roshi and none of them hold a candle to him. I can't say the same for Suzuoki. He's not a bad actor, he just doesn't stand out to me.

What's the common denominator with those characters whose voices work with rasp?

[Boo Machine]

It is. Just like me Cook's Super Buu is awesome is an opinion.

There are some objectively bad actors.

His Super Buu just sounds like Generic Loud Cartoon Villain.

Well, Super Buu is a loud cartoon villain, is he not?

[Anime Kitten]

Well, Super Buu is a loud cartoon villain, is he not?

But I still disagree, because Mr. Cook's Super Buu doesn't sound generic (or bad) at all, in my opinion, of course.

[Boo Machine]

I love Masako Nozowa and all the work she has done as Goku. She is a great actor.

But the choice for Adult Gokus voice is such a weird one. I ,like many who came from the American dub, have grown to love the performance but I just can't shake how odd it sounds coming from Goku sometimes.

[ABED]

It is. Just like me Cook's Super Buu is awesome is an opinion.

There are some objectively bad actors.

His Super Buu just sounds like Generic Loud Cartoon Villain.

Well, Super Buu is a loud cartoon villain, is he not?

But not generic.

None of those things i mentioned are butterfly effects.
Regardless having Time Travel is no excuse for sloppy storytelling. Saying that other Time travel story's have potholes so DB should get a free pass is a flimsy defense. Especially since the characters in the arc do things that make no sense.

Yes, yes they are. Another cyborg that wasn't in Trunks' timeline is a classic case of the butterfly effect.

Time travel is inherently problematic storywise. Even the best stories with timetravel are paradoxical. If John Connor exists in the future, why does he need to send anyone/anything to the past to save him? Isn't the fact that he's alive to send them prove that he doesn't need to send anything to the past?

[Bansho64]

I gotta say, I'm agree with ABED on this one. I'm personally just not a fan of Justin Cook's Boo.

[Wizard Sesame]

If John Connor exists in the future, why does he need to send anyone/anything to the past to save him? Isn't the fact that he's alive to send them prove that he doesn't need to send anything to the past?

Whatever happened, happened. John Connor is alive in the future because he sent someone in the past to save him. Now, that doesn't mean that people in the future should be worried as so long as John sent the person that he remembers saved him, he will always be alive.

But...T2 changed the rules of time travel in the Terminator universe, so therefore, there are probably multiple timelines where John dies in one.

[8000 Saiyan]

I gotta say, I'm agree with ABED on this one. I'm personally just not a fan of Justin Cook's Boo.

How about Brian Dobson's Boo?

[ABED]

If John Connor exists in the future, why does he need to send anyone/anything to the past to save him? Isn't the fact that he's alive to send them prove that he doesn't need to send anything to the past?

Whatever happened, happened. John Connor is alive in the future because he sent someone in the past to save him. Now, that doesn't mean that people in the future should be worried as so long as John sent the person that he remembers saved him, he will always be alive.

But...T2 changed the rules of time travel in the Terminator universe, so therefore, there are probably multiple timelines where John dies in one.

But he's alive TO send him back. And if The Terminator succeeded, that creates a paradox because he stopped the reason for him going back to begin with.

How did T2 change the rules?

[Bansho64]

How about Brian Dobson's Boo?

I haven't heard it actually. He's the Westwood Boo right?

[TheUltimateNinja]

DB Super is a great series and most of the people who incessantly bash it are nostalgic fanboys with rose colored glasses who cannot accept anything new. There are of course legitimate criticisms to be levied against the series, but to simply dismiss it as a terrible show without merit is utter foolishness.

[8000 Saiyan]

How about Brian Dobson's Boo?

I haven't heard it actually. He's the Westwood Boo right?

Yeah, I quite liked him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4rUysFkf3A

[Wizard Sesame]

But he's alive TO send him back. And if The Terminator succeeded, that creates a paradox because he stopped the reason for him going back to begin with.

He's alive because he sent someone back. Think of it this way, if someone were to put a million dollars in a safe twenty years ago that I find and open, I now have a million dollars. I then use that money, make twenty million dollars, build a time machine, go back twenty years ago, and put a million dollars in the safe that I would one day find in the future. It's a causal loop. Whatever happened in the past, happened (as in the Terminator never succeeded and never would succeed), and only John Connor's inaction would be able to change that, but because we know he is one to act, him sending Kyle to the past is exactly what happened. By going back in time, Kyle Reese fulfills his role in history. It's the Novikov Principle.

How did T2 change the rules?

Judgement Day went from an immutable fact that could not and would not be changed to being stopped. It changed the time travel rules from a causal loop like the above and what we saw in Terminator, to a diverging timeline theory like what we see in Dragon Ball.