"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Captain Space » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:21 am

Chuquita wrote:My only hope for getting to see them someday is that we made it through F without 'young male child cast member who is also part saiyajin'. If there's precedent, it can happen again.
Yeah, I said something along these lines a few pages back...anyway, F is doing well, right? That could be an indicator to Toei that they don't always need such a character, and there may be hope yet.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:25 am

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Chuquita wrote:My only hope for getting to see them someday is that we made it through F without 'young male child cast member who is also part saiyajin'. If there's precedent, it can happen again.
Yeah, I said something along these lines a few pages back...anyway, F is doing well, right? That could be an indicator to Toei that they don't always need such a character, and there may be hope yet.
It's doing better sales wise than BOG, I thought. (I don't have the sales numbers). I don't know how general reception in Japan to it was though.

Now I'm wondering if not including them in F was a test of sorts.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Captain Space » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:32 am

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It's doing better sales wise than BOG, I thought. (I don't have the sales numbers). I don't know how general reception in Japan to it was though.

Now I'm wondering if not including them in F was a test of sorts.
Could be interesting if that was the case, yeah. (I mean, the movie's success if so might mean, not only roles for Pan/Uub/Bra, but also actually letting Goten and Trunks grow up, both things that I want to see happen.)
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Avery » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:34 am

I don't get it. Back in the 80s when Toriyama decided to make Goku grow up the only person who had a problem with that was his editor...and he was the main character. Why is it necessary to have the "cute kids" among the main cast nowadays?
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by jcogginsa » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:35 am

Avery wrote:I don't get it. Back in the 80s when Toriyama decided to make Goku grow up the only person who had a problem with that was his editor...and he was the main character. Why is it necessary to have the "cute kids" among the main cast nowadays?
Maybe he wants to show them off as Younger then have the age in a timeskip so the growth happens in the series not between series

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:38 am

Avery wrote:I don't get it. Back in the 80s when Toriyama decided to make Goku grow up the only person who had a problem with that was his editor...and he was the main character. Why is it necessary to have the "cute kids" among the main cast nowadays?
Because someone in marketing says so, probably. :(
I'd hate to think what's holding Pan, Bra, and Uub back is marketability. The three of them add diversity! I think them getting to finally do something would be great! And also child Trunks and Goten are getting so repetitive. Pan, Bra, and Uub offer something fresh.

It might be something less sad then that though. It could be that Toriyama just doesn't care about Trunks and Goten the way he cares about Gokû.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

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Chuquita wrote:I'd hate to think what's holding Pan, Bra, and Uub back is marketability. The three of them add diversity! I think then getting to finally do something would be great! And also child Trunks and Goten are getting so repetitive. Pan, Bra, and Uub offer something fresh.
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C'mon.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Avery » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:51 am

If it's for marketing reasons then they should know that the female fanbase is quite huge (thanks to Vegeta).
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by KaiserNeko » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:53 am

Where in the world are people getting this Pre-BOG stuff? All it says is, "After Majin Buu."
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by jcogginsa » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:55 am

KaiserNeko wrote:Where in the world are people getting this Pre-BOG stuff? All it says is, "After Majin Buu."
"Dragon Ball Super's story will take place shortly after the decisive battle with Majin Buu"

I suspect "Shortly" is the key word here

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by KaiserNeko » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:58 am

jcogginsa wrote:
KaiserNeko wrote:Where in the world are people getting this Pre-BOG stuff? All it says is, "After Majin Buu."
"Dragon Ball Super's story will take place shortly after the decisive battle with Majin Buu"

I suspect "Shortly" is the key word here
Edit: Huh, I could've sworn it said something about Videl being pregnant in that article. ... Huh, maybe this does take place before BOG...
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by soulnova » Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:00 pm

Avery wrote:If it's for marketing reasons then they should know that the female fanbase is quite huge (thanks to Vegeta).
The hand scene on the movie was fan service for that. But to be honest, I followed the series back with the original DB run. Adult Goku just made things better. *wink wink*

I would say Future Trunks had a bigger appeal than Vegeta but, yeah, I know where you are coming from.
KaiserNeko wrote:Where in the world are people getting this Pre-BOG stuff? All it says is, "After Majin Buu."
Depending on translations and dubs, BoG said Videl was already married to Gohan, but I believe the Japanese version originally used a word that could mean either "Bride/Fiancee/Wife".

The leak mentions Goten looking for a wedding gift for Videl. The movie translations could be wrong and she was actually just a fiancee and the wedding will take place immediately after BoG. But if they had actually married before the movie....
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Captain Space » Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:01 pm

KaiserNeko wrote:Where in the world are people getting this Pre-BOG stuff? All it says is, "After Majin Buu."
It's from the way that...I think it was ANN that said from their translations that Gohan and Videl are getting married (they're already married in BoG) and Chi-Chi is making Goku get a job (he already has one in the anniversary special which is slightly pre-BoG)?

Whether those translations are accurate remains to be seen, but we did see Goku in his radish-farmer outfit in the trailer.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by dbgtFO » Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:02 pm

KaiserNeko wrote:
jcogginsa wrote:
KaiserNeko wrote:Where in the world are people getting this Pre-BOG stuff? All it says is, "After Majin Buu."
"Dragon Ball Super's story will take place shortly after the decisive battle with Majin Buu"

I suspect "Shortly" is the key word here
If the movie is canon to this series, then it takes place after BOG. Especially when you consider that the same amount of time would have had to pass, considering Pan is pregnant now, and everyone knows.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:05 pm

About the fat Beerus & female Whis, since Chozenshuu #1 implies that there are more than one Hakaishin in the 7th Universe, I predict that the fat cat is Beerus' brother & another Hakaishin of this universe, while the female Whis is his attendant who is from the same race as Whis, if not related to him.
KaiserNeko wrote:Where in the world are people getting this Pre-BOG stuff? All it says is, "After Majin Buu."
It says that Gohan & Videl are going to get married, while they are already married in BoG. So it will probably begin before BoG, but it will soon get past it, since Beerus & Whis are in.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by KaiserNeko » Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:05 pm

dbgtFO wrote:Wait whaaaaaaaaaaaat!!
Ignore that, woke up and read the article while still sleepy, made a mistake and thought that it mentioned Videl being pregnant and the gift being for that.

Also, uh... if Beerus and Whis are around... no, they're not going to make those movies non-canon, please don't Toei. :\
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Post by soulnova » Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:06 pm

Captain Space wrote:
KaiserNeko wrote:Where in the world are people getting this Pre-BOG stuff? All it says is, "After Majin Buu."
It's from the way that...I think it was ANN that said from their translations that Gohan and Videl are getting married (they're already married in BoG) and Chi-Chi is making Goku get a job (he already has one in the anniversary special which is slightly pre-BoG)?

Whether those translations are accurate remains to be seen, but we did see Goku in his radish-farmer outfit in the trailer.
The dubs could have translated it wrong just to avoid implying extra marital conception. The word used in japanese can mean both things bride/fiance/wife.

Edit: I remember thinking this translation would blow up in their faces if there was any other material that showed their wedding later on.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:11 pm

soulnova wrote:
Avery wrote:If it's for marketing reasons then they should know that the female fanbase is quite huge (thanks to Vegeta).
The hand scene on the movie was fan service for that. But to be honest, I followed the series back with the original DB run. Adult Goku just made things better. *wink wink*

I would say Future Trunks had a bigger appeal than Vegeta but, yeah, I know where you are coming from.
Re: fan service

It does feel like fan service (which I gratefully accept :3 ).
Inside Buu eps felt similar. Cheek to cheek ki blast and its aftermath (Gokû not pulling away till Vegeta snaps him out of it, then later Vegeta trying to rub the Kakarrotto cooties off his cheek and freaking out when Gokû interrupts and waves to him.)
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Captain Space » Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:12 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:since Chozenshuu #1 implies that there are more than one Hakaishin in the 7th Universe,
Wait...what?
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by shinmaru » Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:20 pm

Avery wrote:
shinmaru wrote: Little of topic but does anyone know why Majin Bejita turned in stone after sacrificing his self? Was there anything stated in Daizenshuu?
Just for drama, I guess.
It was discussed here a couple times I think...
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... =8&t=17236
Thx, So there is no official explenation for it.
I always thought he turned in stone because of him having the evil Majin ki.

Back to topic, I really hope that Toriyama didn't forget about Android 17 and show more of him in Super.
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