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Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:08 pm

So...
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  1. Avatar Character
  2. Trunks (Future)
  3. Trunks (GT)
  4. Son Goku
  5. Son Goku (SSG)
  6. Trunks (Kid)
  7. Son Goku (SSGSS)
  8. Son Goku (GT)
  9. Son Goku (SS4)
  10. Son Gohan (Kid)
  11. Son Gohan (Preteen)
  12. Son Gohan (Teen)
  13. Great Saiyaman
  14. Son Gohan (Future)
  15. Son Goten (Kid)
  16. Piccolo
  17. Kuririn
  18. Tenshinhan
  19. Yamcha
  20. Yamcha (Enslaved)
  21. Saibaiman
  22. Raditz
  23. Nappa
  24. Vegeta
  25. Vegeta (Demon Prince)
  26. Vegeta (SSGSS)?
  27. Vegeta (SS4)
  28. Zarbon
  29. Dodoria
  30. Appule?
  31. Ghurd
  32. Reacoom
  33. Butta
  34. Jheese
  35. Ginyu
  36. Raspberri?
  37. Tullece
  38. Slugg
  39. Nail?
  40. Freeza (1st Form)?
  41. Freeza (4th Form)
  42. Freeza (Full Power)
  43. Golden Freeza?
  44. Golden Freeza (Enslaved)?
  45. Coola (4th Form)
  46. Coola (5th Form)?
  47. Mecha Coola?
  48. Mecha Coola (Enslaved)?
  49. ???
  50. Artificial Human #16
  51. Artificial Human #17
  52. Super #17?
  53. Artificial Human #18
  54. Cell (Imperfect)
  55. Cell (Perfect)
  56. Cell (Full Power)
  57. Cell (Full Power, Enslaved)?
  58. Cell Junior
  59. Mr. Satan?
  60. Videl?
  61. Great Saiyaman 2?
  62. Boo (Innocent)
  63. Boo (Evil)
  64. Buu (Pure)
  65. Boo (Pure, Enslaved)
  66. Janenba (Transformed)
  67. Janenba (Transformed, Enslaved)
  68. Broli (LSS)
  69. Broli (LSS, Enslaved)
  70. Gotenks
  71. Vegetto
  72. Gogeta (SS)
  73. Gogeta (SS4)
  74. Beerus
  75. Whis
  76. Jaco
  77. San Xing Long?
  78. Si Xing Long?
  79. Yi Xing Long (Super)?
  80. Yi Xing Long (Super, Enslaved)
  81. Pan
  82. ???
  83. Bardock
  84. Masked Saiyan
  85. Towa
  86. Mira
  87. Mira (Enslaved)
  88. ???
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Uh, not much unaccounted for then.

Also need to add Goku Black (and maybe even Future Trunks from Super) to the list, but I'm not sure if the slots account for him/them or if they'll be slipped in once obtained.
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Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

Post by Nightmare Wheel » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:13 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:So...
[spoiler]
  1. Trunks (Future)
  2. Trunks (GT)
  3. Son Goku
  4. Son Goku (SSG)
  5. Trunks (Kid)
  6. Son Goku (SSGSS)
  7. Son Goku (GT)
  8. Son Goku (SS4)
  9. Son Gohan (Kid)
  10. Son Gohan (Preteen)
  11. Son Gohan (Teen)
  12. Great Saiyaman
  13. Son Gohan (Future)
  14. Son Goten (Kid)
  15. Piccolo
  16. Kuririn
  17. Tenshinhan
  18. Yamcha
  19. Yamcha (Enslaved)
  20. Saibaiman
  21. Raditz
  22. Nappa
  23. Vegeta
  24. Vegeta (Demon Prince)
  25. Vegeta (SSGSS)?
  26. Vegeta (SS4)
  27. Zarbon
  28. Dodoria
  29. Appule?
  30. Ghurd
  31. Reacoom
  32. Butta
  33. Jheese
  34. Ginyu
  35. Raspberri?
  36. Tullece
  37. Slugg
  38. ???
  39. Freeza (1st Form)
  40. Freeza (4th Form)
  41. Freeza (Full Power)
  42. Golden Freeza?
  43. Golden Freeza (Enslaved)?
  44. Coola (4th Form)
  45. Coola (5th Form)
  46. Mecha Coola
  47. Mecha Coola (Enslaved)?
  48. ???
  49. Artificial Human #16
  50. Artificial Human #17
  51. Super #17?
  52. Artificial Human #18
  53. Cell (Imperfect)
  54. Cell (Perfect)
  55. Cell (Full Power)
  56. Cell (Full Power, Enslaved)?
  57. Cell Junior
  58. ???
  59. ???
  60. ???
  61. Boo (Innocent)
  62. Boo (Evil)
  63. Buu (Pure)
  64. Boo (Pure, Enslaved)
  65. Janenba (Transformed)
  66. Janenba (Transformed, Enslaved)
  67. Broli (LSS)
  68. Broli (LSS, Enslaved)
  69. Gotenks
  70. Vegetto
  71. Gogeta (SS)
  72. Gogeta (SS4)
  73. Beerus
  74. Whis
  75. Jaco
  76. San Xing Long?
  77. Si Xing Long?
  78. Yi Xing Long (Super)?
  79. Yi Xing Long (Super, Enslaved)
  80. Pan
  81. ???
  82. Bardock
  83. Masked Saiyan
  84. Towa
  85. Mira
  86. Mira (Enslaved)
  87. ???
[/spoiler]
Uh, not much unaccounted for then.

Also need to add Goku Black (and maybe even Future Trunks from Super) to the list, but I'm not sure if the slots account for him/them or if they'll be slipped in once obtained.
If Goku Black is like SSJ4 Vegeta then he won't be part of the normal character select screen. He would have his own slot tacked on to the end.

Also, I get the feeling the slots between Cell and Buu will be Mr. Satan, Videl and Saiyaman 2.

Also, also we don't know if this is the whole screen since we can't see if there's anything beyond Mira.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:20 pm

I'm going to guess that's the end of the roster. It makes sense for the game's "original" villains to pull up the rear. If there is anything else after them, it may only be a slot or two for a transformation of whoever is after Mira? If it's even someone new...

Good Call on Satan and Videl's slots though. I also need to go back in add in Nail...

I dunno. It's all a little disappointing.
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Post by Nightmare Wheel » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:34 pm

Looking at your list now I think that's probably what the final roster will look like. For the three question mark slots I think the one after Pan could be Super Trunks and the one by Towa and Mira is probably Demigra, or if I could be a little optimistic, Dabra.

The only one that stumps me is the one between Coola and Number 16. The only names that come to mind are Gero or Number 13.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:50 pm

Nightmare Wheel wrote:
Grimlock wrote:And no sign of Demigra, which is something good.
There's a slot to the right of Towa and below TB Mira. That would be the perfect place to put Demigra if he's in the game.
He was already the main bad guy in the last game. I doubt he will be used again.
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Post by Nightmare Wheel » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:52 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:
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Grimlock wrote:And no sign of Demigra, which is something good.
There's a slot to the right of Towa and below TB Mira. That would be the perfect place to put Demigra if he's in the game.
He was already the main bad guy in the last game. I doubt he will be used again.
They could just make him a bonus character with no story connection. They already have assets for him so why not?

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Post by dualist » Thu Sep 22, 2016 3:09 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:I'm going to guess that's the end of the roster. It makes sense for the game's "original" villains to pull up the rear. If there is anything else after them, it may only be a slot or two for a transformation of whoever is after Mira? If it's even someone new...

Good Call on Satan and Videl's slots though. I also need to go back in add in Nail...

I dunno. It's all a little disappointing.
Slightly dissapointed as well, but i think it'll be fine. I don't mind the DLC add one, I'm payingoing for it regardless. I'm confident more characters will be added, especially if we give feedback. Really hope we get the rest of the movie characters sooner than later.
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Post by JimmyRustam » Thu Sep 22, 2016 3:22 pm

Dimps is..stupid :/

Hirano himself said: "We want you to transform during the fight". But why can't they give us the base forms of Preteen Gohan or SSGSS Goku/Vegeta then ?

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Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Thu Sep 22, 2016 3:29 pm

Meh, I pretty much got all the characters I wanted so I ain't too disappointed. :P

But it is kinda stupid what they're doing with the villainous forms, just so unnecessary.
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Post by Grimlock » Thu Sep 22, 2016 3:38 pm

SSJ God Gogeta wrote:Meh, I pretty much got all the characters I wanted so I ain't too disappointed. :P

But it is kinda stupid what they're doing with the villainous forms, just so unnecessary.
Agreed. Everything I needed it's there. So the rest is whatever.

And agreed too. The new Villainous Mode should be treated as alternated slots of the base character. There's no need to give them an entire slot... Even so, depending on who would occupy those slots I wouldn't mind either as I don't play with everyone so...

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Post by Nightmare Wheel » Thu Sep 22, 2016 3:45 pm

I'm also fairly content with the roster itself. I got Coola, Janemba and #16, my top three. Still a little disappointed, but it isn't a dealbreaker for me.

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Post by MatrixChap » Thu Sep 22, 2016 3:49 pm

JimmyRustam wrote:Hirano himself said: "We want you to transform during the fight". But why can't they give us the base forms of Preteen Gohan or SSGSS Goku/Vegeta then ?
Here's my answer:
JimmyRustam wrote:Dimps is..stupid :/

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Post by Anime Kitten » Thu Sep 22, 2016 4:17 pm

Yeah, aside from Base Tween Gohan, this seems like a pretty complete roster. Too bad you can't go from Base to Blue with Goku and Vegeta, but at least the outifts are in.

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Post by Noah » Thu Sep 22, 2016 4:43 pm

Grimlock wrote:And no sign of Demigra, which is something good.
I don't think so, his recent final form is pretty badass if you ask me, I would totally buy he being the final boss of this game
Anime Kitten wrote:Yeah, aside from Base Tween Gohan, this seems like a pretty complete roster. Too bad you can't go from Base to Blue with Goku and Vegeta, but at least the outifts are in.

HYYYYYPE
Too bad there's no Base (RoF) Goku/Vegeta with SS, SS2, SS3 and SSGSS as transformations, it would be cool they with all their transformations

strange that Goku (GT) can't transform in SS4? That's why the separated slot? :think:
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Post by Anime Kitten » Thu Sep 22, 2016 4:51 pm

Noah wrote:Too bad there's no Base (RoF) Goku/Vegeta with SS, SS2, SS3 and SSGSS as transformations.
The Base are in (presumably as costumes), but they probably won't have any transformations, although I'd love to see SSJ on them.
Noah wrote:strange that Goku (GT) can't transform in SS4? That's why the separated slot? :think:
Shame, though. It's annoying enough in Tenkaichi 2.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:07 pm

Why are Villainous/Time Breakers characters getting their own slot? It such a damn waste. All the characters I wanted are in the game, but DIMPS could have done much more with the roster. They really dropped the ball with the roster.

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Post by Nightmare Wheel » Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:20 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Why are Villainous/Time Breakers characters getting their own slot? It such a damn waste. All the characters I wanted are in the game, but DIMPS could have done much more with the roster. They really dropped the ball with the roster.
It's roster padding. They were going to put them in the game anyway, so might as well make the character select screen bigger, I guess.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:30 pm

Pretty much. My complaint here is mostly that I feel Dimps and Namco Bandai have been a bit intentionally deceptive in the metaphorical picture they were painting with their promotion of this game and the presentation of the characters thus far.

They showed off a roster screen with over 85 slots (88 now) and repeatedly said they weren't going to reveal all the characters before launch...except now we know those characters they aren't revealing seemingly amounts to a grand total of 3 (2 if Super!Trunks is his own slot too) because they're fluffing the screen with a dozen or so variations that used to be costumes.

For me, they either should have dropped a hint earlier that the variations would be taking up slots now or kept them as costumes (thus not having the extra slots when showing off the roster screen the first time), and I probably wouldn't have said a word about feeling a bit swindled here.
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Post by Kanassa » Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:46 pm

Noah wrote:
I don't think so, his recent final form is pretty badass if you ask me, I would totally buy he being the final boss of this game
I would enjoy him as a secret extra boss, but I would face plam if it turns out that this was all jsut a plot to revive him by Towa.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Post by Anime Kitten » Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:01 pm

Kanassa wrote:I would enjoy him as a secret extra boss, but I would face plam if it turns out that this was all jsut a plot to revive him by Towa.
It would be cool to see Towa try to use Demigra as a tool for revenge, since Demigra used Towa as one before.
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