Buu Saga Kai

[TheBlackPaladin]

Wait guys, four different endings means four different "next episode preview" variations, right?
Plus as usual orchestral versions of the opening song (which means new orchestral versions of Dragon Soul by the new composer if it's still Dragon Soul, and you can check on Battle of Gods what he already did with Cha-La Head-Cha-La's variations).

All the more exciting to discover all of this!

Oh yeah, I didn't think about the orchestral variations! So four ending songs, four different ending animations, orchestral variations of the four ending songs, an multiple different dubs of the four ending songs...I'm liking this!

[JulieYBM]

We don't know if there will be four new ending themes. All we know is that the third ending will last for a cour, a three month period.

[MagicBox]

Not to be a downer, but since when are orchestral arrangements of theme songs guaranteed? Sure, it's something that the previous composers did with some of the themes, but Sumitomo our new composer might decide to go in a different direction. I'd love to get some, though, provided the new theme songs are good.

I just hope the new score isn't afraid to be happy and bouncy. I'm sick of all these super serious scores and we've been getting. Takaki's and Yamamoto's generic "epic" orchestra music had no identity or personality, and the "Battle Of Gods" score was no better. The BGM arrangements have been boring lately as well. Bring back the xylophones for once! I hate constantly repeating how much I miss Kikuchi, but after all these years, I want something that I can hum in my head for days on end. Tokunaga's the only one who's come close.

[JulieYBM]

Not to be a downer, but since when are orchestral arrangements of theme songs guaranteed? Sure, it's something that the previous composers did with some of the themes, but Sumitomo our new composer might decide to go in a different direction. I'd love to get some, though, provided the new theme songs are good.

I just hope the new score isn't afraid to be happy and bouncy. I'm sick of all these super serious scores and we've been getting. Takaki's and Yamamoto's generic "epic" orchestra music had no identity or personality, and the "Battle Of Gods" score was no better. The BGM arrangements have been boring lately as well. Bring back the xylophones for once! I hate constantly repeating how much I miss Kikuchi, but after all these years, I want something that I can hum in my head for days on end. Tokunaga's the only one who's come close.

Before the score is composed the composer works with the audio director. Nagasaki Yukio is returning as audio director, so I'm sure Nagasaki will ask for specific pieces to fit the format of the first two story arcs.

[MagicBox]

Oh, just crush my hopes, why don't you.

EDIT: I may not be crazy about Kai, but I will admit I missed the excitement that comes with all this speculation.

[JulieYBM]

Oh, just crush my hopes, why don't you.

EDIT: I may not be crazy about Kai, but I will admit I missed the excitement that comes with all this speculation.

Watching the series unfold is a lot more fun than actually watching the series after the fact.

[Black_Liger]

Not to be a downer, but since when are orchestral arrangements of theme songs guaranteed? Sure, it's something that the previous composers did with some of the themes, but Sumitomo our new composer might decide to go in a different direction. I'd love to get some, though, provided the new theme songs are good.

I just hope the new score isn't afraid to be happy and bouncy. I'm sick of all these super serious scores and we've been getting. Takaki's and Yamamoto's generic "epic" orchestra music had no identity or personality, and the "Battle Of Gods" score was no better. The BGM arrangements have been boring lately as well. Bring back the xylophones for once! I hate constantly repeating how much I miss Kikuchi, but after all these years, I want something that I can hum in my head for days on end. Tokunaga's the only one who's come close.

You clearly have not given Takaki score a good chance... there are some peaceful tunes there, and most of it is action because. Uh most scenes are action or suspense. but there are definitely lighthearted piece like the one were Grandpa Gohan holds baby Goku, and when Bardock befriends Beri, Also in the ending of Plan to destroy the super saiyans. The last part of the battle with hatchiyack had a fairly thriumphant tone. So no, it's all not gritty orchestra. I think the Kikuchi score is great too, but damn it to hell. It's not a reason to look down on all the other scores. treating Kikchi score like a god and the others like peasants. there is no way you will ever hear new kikuchi music again in dragon ball, because he ain't composing for it anymore, geez his score was even butchered by Kai so they just have to lay down his music for a while as respect to his great talent. (not the themes themselves, if they reorchestrated them that would be ideal).

Also... this shows you are being a little biased.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzFqVqv-DJg

It's not gritty or SUPER EPIC sounding, it's a happy piece with a simple and catchy tune. It really reminds me of the dragon ball mood if you get what I mean.

of course, I'm not saying the scores are completely perfect. But got enough good material to shine.

[MagicBox]

I think you might be misunderstanding me, which is probably my fault. I'm not faulting the other composers simply because they're not Shunsuke Kikuchi, and I'm more than willing to give new talents a chance. You'll never hear me say a bad thing about Tokunaga's score, for example, because I think he did a great job capturing what I consider to be the proper atmosphere and tone of Dragon Ball (despite being very different from Kikuchi's interpretation). And I want to clarify that I never said I didn't like Yamamoto's and Takaki's music. I've got all three Kai soundtracks and listen to them quite frequently. And I would LOVE to throw my money at a compilation of Takaki's score (mostly for that great piece that plays when Goku and the gang defeat Hachi-Hyack). I just don't think they have much of a personality or identity to them (as in, you could insert this music into any generic action series and it would be just as effective; it doesn't feel like Dragon Ball). That's something that I still stand by.

Sumitomo's the one to watch right now, and quite frankly I'm excited. I really enjoyed about a fourth of the "Battle of Gods" score. I like to think that composing for a TV series gives you a little more freedom than composing for a feature film, so I can't wait to see what he can do.

I may have my favorites, but I've liked all the Dragon Ball composers thus far. I just won't deny that I think Kikuchi left a hole that will probably never be completely filled (nor would I really want it to be completely filled, now that I think about it).

[dbboxkaifan]

Before the score is composed the composer works with the audio director. Nagasaki Yukio is returning as audio director, so I'm sure Nagasaki will ask for specific pieces to fit the format of the first two story arcs.

Nagasaki will be in charge of the music placements? That's so depressing to know because he done quite a horrible job for the past Kai whether it was with Yamamoto or Kikuchi BGMs.

I know this is mostly for the western audience but it wouldn't hurt TOEI to get someone better than Nagasaki to do proper music placements.

[JulieYBM]

Before the score is composed the composer works with the audio director. Nagasaki Yukio is returning as audio director, so I'm sure Nagasaki will ask for specific pieces to fit the format of the first two story arcs.

Nagasaki will be in charge of the music placements? That's so depressing to know because he done quite a horrible job for the past Kai whether it was with Yamamoto or Kikuchi BGMs.

I know this is mostly for the western audience but it wouldn't hurt TOEI to get someone better than Nagasaki to do proper music placements.

As audio director Nagasaki is in charge or supervising all three aspects of the audio. Obviously Arai Hidenori handles the sound effects himself, Nagasaki does handle the placement of the music himself (if not supervising a staffer).

[Black_Liger]

I think you might be misunderstanding me, which is probably my fault. I'm not faulting the other composers simply because they're not Shunsuke Kikuchi, and I'm more than willing to give new talents a chance. You'll never hear me say a bad thing about Tokunaga's score, for example, because I think he did a great job capturing what I consider to be the proper atmosphere and tone of Dragon Ball (despite being very different from Kikuchi's interpretation). And I want to clarify that I never said I didn't like Yamamoto's and Takaki's music. I've got all three Kai soundtracks and listen to them quite frequently. And I would LOVE to throw my money at a compilation of Takaki's score (mostly for that great piece that plays when Goku and the gang defeat Hachi-Hyack). I just don't think they have much of a personality or identity to them (as in, you could insert this music into any generic action series and it would be just as effective; it doesn't feel like Dragon Ball). That's something that I still stand by.

Sumitomo's the one to watch right now, and quite frankly I'm excited. I really enjoyed about a fourth of the "Battle of Gods" score. I like to think that composing for a TV series gives you a little more freedom than composing for a feature film, so I can't wait to see what he can do.

I may have my favorites, but I've liked all the Dragon Ball composers thus far. I just won't deny that I think Kikuchi left a hole that will probably never be completely filled (nor would I really want it to be completely filled, now that I think about it).

Ooh, then my bad, I do think the fit dragon ball personality, but yeah, that's opinion based and perfectly valid both for you and me. So yeah, I really love Tokunaga's score and get what you're saying, Takaki is great, but his db score does sound like "Takaki" not so much like dragon ball even if I think the feel is fine. in that regards Sumitomo gave it a more "dragonbally" feel to it as well as mantaining more symphony and choral pieces, but yeah, I do agree that nothing screams DRAGON BALL more than the kikuchi score. i am excited for the buu saga sumitomo score, so I hope he does better than Yamamoto (which I really liked, too badit has many unreleased pieces).

[dbboxkaifan]

Takaki the composer from Ultimate Blast that made all the game tracks in guitar? They almost all sounded the same with little difference, so if that's him it won't be a whole better than what we've had before (Kikuchi) but with more variety it might work out.

Although, if his Boo Kai tracks are like what were on the UB animated cutscenes then that'd be lovely.

[Black_Liger]

Takaki the composer from Ultimate Blast that made all the game tracks in guitar? They almost all sounded the same with little difference, so if that's him it won't be a whole better than what we've had before (Kikuchi) but with more variety it might work out.

Although, if his Boo Kai tracks are like what were on the UB animated cutscenes then that'd be lovely.

That's not Takaki, the composer from the game was Toshiyuki Kishi, Takaki did the Orchestral music for the animated scenes.

[JamesOwnz]

Might just be dreaming but any chance Toei will animate the updated ending that was done for the 20th anniversary of Dragon Ball for Kai?

I assume you're talking about the kanzenban ending with Oob being given the kintoun, right? If so, I dunno how likely it really is that they'll animate that, but I really hope they do. It'd be awesome to finally get that in animated form.

Yup that one and then Vegeta has a line in there too.

Loved that.

[dbboxkaifan]

That's not Takaki, the composer from the game was Toshiyuki Kishi, Takaki did the Orchestral music for the animated scenes.

Thank goodness I really enjoyed the cinematic music on the animated scenes but never got enough of it because they were too short.

Well, here's a reason now to be somewhat excited for Majin Boo's arc DBK version.

[Big Momma]

I listened to a few of Good Morning America's songs, and I gotta say that aren't too bad IMO. I'm excited to hear the song when it comes out. I'm just glad aren't bubbly pop like the last Ending Theme.

[kei17]

http://www.fujitv.co.jp/tokuhen/14spring/new.html

Videl and Babidi are recast. Shino Kakinuma for Videl, and Bin Shimada for Babidi. WHAT THE FUCK. This really, really sucks.

And it says that the music composer is Sumitomo, of course.

[Blade]

http://www.fujitv.co.jp/tokuhen/14spring/new.html

Videl and Babidi are recast. Shino Kakinuma for Videl, and Bin Shimada for Babidi. WHAT THE FUCK. This really, really sucks.

And it says that the music composer is Sumitomo, of course.

From your avatars, I get the distinct impression that Videl is somewhat of a favorite character of yours, so that must really be tough to swallow

[Gonstead]

I.... wh....just.....ch....

*brain implodes*

WHY?!?! WHAT POSSIBLE F*CKIN REASON DO YOU DO THAT?!?

[Cold Skin]

^ I never really got a good grasp of those things, but wasn't it already known that the voice actress for Videl was not easily available, and even made a special effort to come back for Battle of Gods? Like, she's studying in America or something?

I don't remember well, but I do seem to remember from conversations around here that she was not easily available, so it's not surprising that she wouldn't be there for a whole production year of dub.
Even though I can't imagine anything better than her original charming voice for that character, I still trust that the new voice will be good enough, and at least it will participate in giving us a renewed sense of the character for the renewed feeling Kai is supposed to bring.
So I guess even if it's too bad for us, we can still see the glass half-full rather than half-empty.

Somehow, I still feel Kei is going to bash her new voice (and probably acting) no matter what it turns out to be like!
I can't even imagine the general meltdown the day the irreplaceable Nozawa will have to be replaced, as it will impact the whole Son family!