"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

[Dyno]

I was expecting exactly this answer.

I will not say much, just: Vegeta was revived as if he were a good guy after years of genocide, including a recent mass murdering of many Namekuseijins in Freeza's saga.

But I wasn't expecting you to put words on my fingers which I didn't type... I didn't say Bardock is a good guy. But I say now Bardock is in fact an anti-hero.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I didn't put any words in your fingers, you said that Bardock wasn't always a bad guy & that he redeemed himself after going against Freeza. What he did was a good thing, but he didn't do it because he had regretted his evil actions or anything. He still killed innocents from countless planets, and did that with a big pleasure. He didn't go against Freeza because he didn't like his job. It's like saying that the Nazis where good guys that redeemed themselves because they fought & died to protect their country...

Bardock was an anti-hero, but that doesn't mean he wasn't evil.

Vegeta is a very different case. He had changed over the 7 years, and he had regretted his past actions by the end of Boo arc.

[miguelnuva1]

And not always, he redeemed himself when decided to go against Freeza.

By that logic, Hitler was a good guy because he was fighting for his country.

Bardock never regretted his actions, which are, multiple genocides for decades. Just because he fought for his planet doesn't make him a good guy.

Hitler was a good guy to the German people and had he won WWII the histroy books would have said he was a good guy. DBZ is so not black and white we it comes to characters you could argue Goku is an anti hero/anti villain.

[Kamiccolo9]

And not always, he redeemed himself when decided to go against Freeza.

By that logic, Hitler was a good guy because he was fighting for his country.

Bardock never regretted his actions, which are, multiple genocides for decades. Just because he fought for his planet doesn't make him a good guy.

Hitler was a good guy to the German people and had he won WWII the histroy books would have said he was a good guy. DBZ is so not black and white we it comes to characters you could argue Goku is an anti hero/anti villain.

Go tell any German today that Hitler was a hero to the German people. Go on, I dare you.

[GoldLiger]

Even I am not dumb enough to say THAT to the German people.

[miguelnuva1]

]And not always, he redeemed himself when decided to go against Freeza.

By that logic, Hitler was a good guy because he was fighting for his country.

Bardock never regretted his actions, which are, multiple genocides for decades. Just because he fought for his planet doesn't make him a good guy.

Hitler was a good guy to the German people and had he won WWII the history books would have said he was a good guy. DBZ is so not black and white we it comes to characters you could argue Goku is an anti hero/anti villain.

Go tell any German today that Hitler was a hero to the German people. Go on, I dare you.

Of course no one is going to say that now but when he was first rising up and taking back land you don't think they thought he was a good guy. A hero only has to look good in the eyes of those he is appeasing to which is why I brought up Hitler. With Bardock he is defending himself, his family and his planet from the much more villainous Frieza which makes Bardock a hero.

[DNA]

I hope they add Hitler to the game.

[Kamiccolo9]

Of course no one is going to say that now but when he was first rising up and taking back land you don't think they thought he was a good guy. A hero only has to look good in the eyes of those he is appeasing to which is why I brought up Hitler. With Bardock he is defending himself, his family and his planet from the much more villainous Freeza which makes Bardock a hero.

A lot of them really didn't. I suggest you learn more about history before you say stuff like that.

Anyway, this is off-topic.

I hope they add Hitler to the game.

Was he called "Hitler" in Japan? Or was it just "The Dictator?"

[Gyt Kaliba]

I hope they add Hitler to the game.

Was he called "Hitler" in Japan? Or was it just "The Dictator?"

Pretty sure it was the latter, but there's no denying who he was totally meant to look like. I dunno how accurate a guess it is, but I always just assumed the whole scene was kind of one they had to dance around a little bit. I mean, they were poking fun at Hitler in something like DBZ, soon top of making it over-the-top and not really calling him by that name, the entire segment is animated using a lot thicker lines than usual.

[Dyno]

I hope they add Hitler to the game.

Thank you for updating your card list!

[aryansaiyan]

Has the Super Saiyan 3 Broly/Hirudgarn animation ever been archived? with decent quality?

[miguelnuva1]

Of course no one is going to say that now but when he was first rising up and taking back land you don't think they thought he was a good guy. A hero only has to look good in the eyes of those he is appeasing to which is why I brought up Hitler. With Bardock he is defending himself, his family and his planet from the much more villainous Freeza which makes Bardock a hero.

A lot of them really didn't. I suggest you learn more about history before you say stuff like that.

Anyway, this is off-topic.

Your going to tell someone with a major in history to learn about history, thanks for the advice but here's some to you. Next time leave the extra attitude off and let's all talk like we have common sense.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Working on updating the card download now that I'm a bit more rested from the vacation driving. In the mean time, Golden Freeza officially joins Heroes:

[DNA]

Thank you for updating your card list! :)

I try to updated as soon as characters get confirmed. I do my best! :D

[Kamiccolo9]

Of course no one is going to say that now but when he was first rising up and taking back land you don't think they thought he was a good guy. A hero only has to look good in the eyes of those he is appeasing to which is why I brought up Hitler. With Bardock he is defending himself, his family and his planet from the much more villainous Freeza which makes Bardock a hero.

A lot of them really didn't. I suggest you learn more about history before you say stuff like that.

Anyway, this is off-topic.

Your going to tell someone with a major in history to learn about history, thanks for the advice but here's some to you. Next time leave the extra attitude off and let's all talk like we have common sense.

As someone who is a good portion of the way through his doctorate, and is currently teaching the exact era of history we are talking about at a university? Yeah, I will tell you that you're wrong.

Now I suggest you quit dragging this off-topic.

[Dyno]

Golden Freeza officially joins Heroes:

Well, I don't remember a character being introduced after the mission has already started. But it's okay. I am actually excited to see how they handled Freeza's alternative fourth form besides just images.

A question: Is Freeza's alternative fourth form a new character or is it treated as a transformation?

And could someone find a larger version of this image, please?

Spoiler:

http://vjump.shueisha.co.jp/news/images ... 503/03.jpg

[miguelnuva1]

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Of course no one is going to say that now but when he was first rising up and taking back land you don't think they thought he was a good guy. A hero only has to look good in the eyes of those he is appeasing to which is why I brought up Hitler. With Bardock he is defending himself, his family and his planet from the much more villainous Freeza which makes Bardock a hero.

A lot of them really didn't. I suggest you learn more about history before you say stuff like that.

Anyway, this is off-topic.

Your going to tell someone with a major in history to learn about history, thanks for the advice but here's some to you. Next time leave the extra attitude off and let's all talk like we have common sense.

As someone who is a good portion of the way through his doctorate, and is currently teaching the exact era of history we are talking about at a university? Yeah, I will tell you that you're wrong.

Now I suggest you quit dragging this off-topic.[/quote]

So pre WWII your going to tell me the german people didn't like Hitler?

On topic

Golden Frieza is starting to look better now that I'm getting more use to it.

[Kamiccolo9]

So pre WWII your going to tell me the german people didn't like Hitler?

On topic

Golden Freeza is starting to look better now that I'm getting more use to it.

He wasn't considered a hero by the majority of the populace like you said, no.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Well, I don't remember a character being introduced after the mission has already started. But it's okay. I am actually excited to see how they handled Freeza's alternative fourth form besides just images.

A question: Is Freeza's alternative fourth form a new character or is it treated as a transformation?

It happens all the time. Most recently last set with Mira's boss mission.

I can't tell. But it's seems to be a transformation he's capable of accessing at will in the film, so I see no reason for it not to be a transformation of Freeza: Resurrection.

[miguelnuva1]

So pre WWII your going to tell me the german people didn't like Hitler?

On topic

Golden Freeza is starting to look better now that I'm getting more use to it.

He wasn't considered a hero by the majority of the populace like you said, no.

I never said how many I'll I said was at first he was like a hero.