Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

[JulieYBM]

The other day Twitter used @Deem939 was posting excerpts from an interview with various Saint Seiya Staff. This part from an interview with Producer Wakabayashi Gou on why he asked Hatano Morio to be series director of Saint Seiya Omega is particularly morbid in light of today's news.

Wow. I never knew Hatano was a Yama'uchi Shigeyasu fan.

Not only that, but he also worked under him as assistant director, apparently. For Hatano to work on Dragon Ball, a series that Yama'uchi basically led, is almost prophetic.

[ArchedThunder]

This happening is suspect to say the least. Sure it could be nothing, but it could also be the indicator of a major decline in the future (ha) of Dragon Ball.

Like I said before that, it's worrying because of what happened last time we had two people credited as Series Director, but a sample size of one is too small to draw a conclusion right now, it could mean a few things that aren't Morio leaving. Worrying is fine, but acting like we know for a fact that he left is a bit ridiculous.

[Sodhi]

ArchedThunder is right. We should wait and see what happens. It could just be a way to allow Hatano Morio be involved in more episodes of Super, since now he has another person to work with. So we dont know if its negative or positive yet. Even if he does leave, that does not automatically mean Super is over. He could turn out to be a really good director.

[dhaval_dongre]

-Episode 68-

Toei's priorities are questionable one again. How the hell this filler episode looks better than the first part of the previous episode, which was the last one from a major arc?! WTF?!
And this episode didn't even have a recap, which I found strange too.

This was the first thing that came in my mind. But I think they have planned out this filler arc. Considering the quality of this week's episode, I think they must have started working on it earlier or rather outsourced it earlier. The last few episodes of the FT arc had more priority( 63, 65, 66) so they sacrificed few episodes like 64, 62 and the 67. Outsourcing something like 67 to Wanpack would have been good (67 wasn't bad entirely, the 2nd half was decent) but would not have helped in the long run. What I feel is that, considering the quality of this and the next episode, they are gonna outsource this filler arc or a major part of it, so that they can focus on the upcoming arc.

[Saikyo no Senshi]

Also what's with the hate for Kohei? He storyboarded and directed 38 and 56 and directed 47. I'd say his track record on Super is okay.

Hatano Kohei is an okay-ish storyboard artist and director. He can do some good storyboards once in a while. But being a series director is a completely different beast and he is not by any means fit to lead the series. That's worrying not hating.

[ArchedThunder]

Hatano Kohei is an okay-ish storyboard artist and director. He can do some good storyboards once in a while. But being a series director is a completely different beast and he is not by any means fit to lead the series. That's worrying not hating.

You don't know if he'd be a bad series director or not though. We also don't know if he's going to be leading the series by himself or if he's going to be working with Morio, either way we have to wait and see.

[JazzMazz]

Well this is sure a sad discussion, Super really didn't need to lose another director.

With the completion of this arc, I was wandering if someone could create a series of gifs detailing all the action contained in each episode. ArchedThunder was doing some gif compilations at the beginning of the arc, but he stopped half-way through the arc. I was wandering if someone would be able to do something along those lines.

[DragonBallFan8001]

I think I noticed a shot of Bulma in the episode that was taken from the current ED. It's the part when Bulma is talking to #18 about what Kuririn wants. I think this is the first time since Goku's power-up scene during the Cell games that the series reused footage from an OP/ED, and that time it was redrawn. Super seems pretty good at finding ways to reuse animation.

[Mazingerdestro]

Pretty decent episode. Some nice character designs and pretty much the best shading I have seen so far. I see that we are "at that point" were even filler look good.

[JazzMazz]

Pretty decent episode. Some nice character designs and pretty much the best shading I have seen so far. I see that we are "at that point" were even filler look good.

I wouldn't say that, #42 and #44 both looked really solid, but that wasn't exactly an indication that the schedule had improved.

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

Why am I not surprised that Morio Hatano is credited as a second series director? I've always said that the schedule never improved and this is what happens when the production is a mess. Hopefully Hatano stays, but the signs don't look good now.

Hatano Kohei is an okay-ish storyboard artist and director. He can do some good storyboards once in a while. But being a series director is a completely different beast and he is not by any means fit to lead the series. That's worrying not hating.

You don't know if he'd be a bad series director or not though. We also don't know if he's going to be leading the series by himself or if he's going to be working with Morio, either way we have to wait and see.

You can stop now. You don't know what you're talking about. If his track record is any indication he's going to be a weak series director and Super may be on the verge of another collapse if Morio Hatano leaves.

[kinisking]

Why am I not surprised that Morio Hatano is credited as a second series director? I've always said that the schedule never improved and this is what happens when the production is a mess. Hopefully Hatano stays, but the signs don't look good now.

Hatano Kohei is an okay-ish storyboard artist and director. He can do some good storyboards once in a while. But being a series director is a completely different beast and he is not by any means fit to lead the series. That's worrying not hating.

You don't know if he'd be a bad series director or not though. We also don't know if he's going to be leading the series by himself or if he's going to be working with Morio, either way we have to wait and see.

You can stop now. You don't know what you're talking about. If his track record is any indication he's going to be a weak series director and Super may be on the verge of another collapse if Morio Hatano leaves.

No, none of us know what we're talking about. At least Arched Thunder recognizes that and says to wait and see.

[Ajay]

No, none of us know what we're talking about. At least Arched Thunder recognizes that and says to wait and see.

Correct. DragonBalllKaiHD is entirely out of line. Kohei Hatano has a good 16 years worth of projects behind him and he's directed some great episodes of Super. Having no experience as a series director doesn't mean you're going to be a bad one. You don't get promoted for absolutely no reason.

How many times have we spoken about Super bringing in 'fresh blood' to keep the series interesting? He might be coming on under unfortunate circumstances, but nobody should be writing him off without giving him a chance. Again, he has plenty of solid episodes under his belt and a history of working as a production planner towards the start of his career.

Yeah, it's a depressing reminder of Super's troubled production, but don't shoot the folks trying to keep it afloat.

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

I recognize that I was a bit out of line, but Hatano is a young director that already has excellent track record of making episodes look really good with his storyboard and direction. I realize that I'm just repeating what Jacob and Saikyo said, but Chioka was the first to lead the series, but in just under 40 episodes he left after adding Morio Hatano as a 2nd series director. Same thing is happening right now. I hope that isn't the case. It would be great if Morio is just working with Kohei.

Hatano just directed #66, something Chioka never did with the series. So, when you see the opening credits that includes Kohei Hatano as the lead-in with Morio as 2nd director, something was wrong. He is a very young with good direction experiences, and now they are placing him 2nd director. The staff was already instablized, so you should at least acknowledge we are very frustrating when we see Kohei Hatano as the leading series director.

[Psykomatik]

Well, he was not promoted overnight. He probably is series director since 68 was in production, 6 weeks ago or something like that... He may already have his touch on the series, who knows?
And maybe Kohei Hatano is just promoted for the upcoming filler arc, while Morio Hatano is preparing the next big arc of Toriyama. Don't jump to speculations when you don't know what's behind the scene.

[SaiyanGod117]

Why doesn't Toei just let Super take a hiatus, are they really that money hungry? Honest question

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

Fuji TV and Namco Bandai are the one to call off Dragon Ball Super, not Toei.

[ArchedThunder]

Well this is sure a sad discussion, Super really didn't need to lose another director.

With the completion of this arc, I was wandering if someone could create a series of gifs detailing all the action contained in each episode. ArchedThunder was doing some gif compilations at the beginning of the arc, but he stopped half-way through the arc. I was wandering if someone would be able to do something along those lines.

Doing a bunch of GIFs was really time consuming and I was without a computer and internet for a while in late September and early October because I moved and then for recent episodes a lot of what I would have made GIFs of had already been done so I just haven't really bothered unless someone requests something and I have free time. Sorry!

I recognize that I was a bit out of line, but Hatano is a young director that already has excellent track record of making episodes look really good with his storyboard and direction. I realize that I'm just repeating what Jacob and Saikyo said, but Chioka was the first to lead the series, but in just under 40 episodes he left after adding Morio Hatano as a 2nd series director. Same thing is happening right now. I hope that isn't the case. It would be great if Morio is just working with Kohei.

Hatano just directed #66, something Chioka never did with the series. So, when you see the opening credits that includes Kohei Hatano as the lead-in with Morio as 2nd director, something was wrong. He is a very young with good direction experiences, and now they are placing him 2nd director. The staff was already instablized, so you should at least acknowledge we are very frustrating when we see Kohei Hatano as the leading series director.

Again, it's too early to freak out because we don't even know if Morio is leaving yet. I know it's worrying based on what happened last time, but a sample size of one isn't enough to draw a conclusion and with Super it's hard to say why anything is the way it is. Morio might be leaving, but this could also mean a number of other things like them doubling up on the role so he can work directly on more episodes or maybe Kohei's promotion is temporary because Morio has personal things to attend to or is even focused on the next Toriyama arc while Kohei leads a beefy filler arc. Toyotaro did say he's going to be ahead of the anime soon and without us going into a sizable filler arc that just isn't happening. The moment Morio's name is removed is when you should be upset, but right now it's premature. And even if Morio is leaving who knows what Kohei will bring, maybe the show's quality will drop off a cliff or maybe he'll somehow really elevate the show.
We just have to wait and see.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Why doesn't Toei just let Super take a hiatus, are they really that money hungry? Honest question

This has been explained before. If DBS went on an extended hiatus, Toei would dedicate their time and resources to their shows, and DBS would not see a substantial jump in quality. Also, it's not a matter of being "money hungry", they have employees to pay, investments to make. Corperations have to bring in a constant profit or they'll collapse.

[ArchedThunder]

Why doesn't Toei just let Super take a hiatus, are they really that money hungry? Honest question

This has been explained before. If DBS went on an extended hiatus, Toei would dedicate their time and resources to their shows, and DBS would not see a substantial jump in quality. Also, it's not a matter of being "money hungry", they have employees to pay, investments to make. Corperations have to bring in a constant profit or they'll collapse.

People say this, but I don't think this is true at all. Toei's other shows see a normal amount of production before they start airing while Super didn't have that luxury, if Super went on hiatus I doubt they'd pull the people who work on the show off of it and they'd honestly probably treat it as if it were a new show at that point, a reboot of sorts.
The show can't take a hiatus because it's not up to Toei, Fuji TV and the sponsors want the show to air so it airs.