The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Mjb1985]

Lol that is pretty funny.

Whatever you do, don't use the ROSAT, you clearly don't need it , you will be more powerful than me and I can handle Buu already , but yea , definitely don't train anything other than doing the actual fusion your power is definitely enough.

DB Poster's Conclusion.

Majin Vegeta > Ssj Gotenks

Lulz.

[dbzfan7]

To be fair, in the manga Gotenks barely transformed in Super Saiyan for the first time, and Boo turned evil.

I don't understand your point.

[Kaboom]

Lol that is pretty funny.
Whatever you do, don't use the ROSAT, you clearly don't need it , you will be more powerful than me and I can handle Buu already , but yea , definitely don't train anything other than doing the actual fusion your power is definitely enough.
DB Poster's Conclusion.
Majin Vegeta > Ssj Gotenks
Lulz.

Yeah, let's NOT post like this, please. It's not "lulz"-worthy if someone doesn't necessarily see it that way.

[Fox666]

Lol that is pretty funny.

Whatever you do, don't use the ROSAT, you clearly don't need it , you will be more powerful than me and I can handle Buu already , but yea , definitely don't train anything other than doing the actual fusion your power is definitely enough.

DB Poster's Conclusion.

Majin Vegeta > Ssj Gotenks

Lulz.

Is has been 2 pages since Majin Vegeta name was mentioned in the thread. So who are you talking to?

[Insertclevername]

Bojack's crew (Bujin, Bido, Gokua and Zangya) vs. the seven Cell Jrs.

[Fox666]

I will go with the Cell Jr. because of their number and possible regeneration.

[Insertclevername]

Do you think that stringy technique thing that Bojacks crew has might be of any use to them? I do agree though, the Cell Jrs. do seem more likely to win due to sheer number difference.

[Kaboom]

I'm going to have to go with the Cell Juniors, too, due to greater numbers and power. Bojack's crew have great teamwork that allows them to debilitate and take down opponents stronger than them. But it's not really going to work against a GROUP of stronger enemies.

[dbzfan7]

Cell Juniors

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

Darth Sidious vs Raditz

[dbzfan7]

Darth Sidious vs Raditz

Raditz. The laws of Dragonball have the rule that people who are significantly stronger can overcome psychic abilities, such as how Chaozu couldn't contain Nappa and how Kaioshin could barely contain Gohan.

[Pantalones]

Yeah... ignoring expanded-universe wackiness where power levels are allowed to run free without such constraints as "logic" and "consistency with the movies," nobody in Star Wars could even touch Raditz.

In a universe where everybody's in the "ordinary human" to "low-end Budokai fighter with a couple of tricks" range, pretty much the only reliable way to kill someone as strong as Raditz would be to blow up the planet he's on with the Death Star. Offensive force powers aren't guaranteed to work (based on General Blue, Chiaotzu, etc. all having psychic techniques which don't work if someone's THAT much stronger, and things like force lightning basically being ki blasts which we know don't usually work so well if there's a gigantic power gap), and lightsabers have been shown to take a significant amount of time to cut through thick metal (which guys like Raditz and Nappa can break through effortlessly with their bare hands), so they're not like Kienzans on a stick or anything. Probably the best chance any Jedi/Sith has is to mind-trick Raditz into thinking that whichever planet he landed on wasn't the one Freeza sent him off to after all and that he should go somewhere else, and there's no way of knowing for sure if that would even work, since even mentally manipulating powers have been shown as possible to overcome through sheer power (Vegeta not really being totally controlled by Babidi, just faking it at first so he could get the power boost and a chance to fight Goku.)

[mattymoron]

Goku (EoZ) vs. Helspont from the New 52.

[Rocketman]

and lightsabers have been shown to take a significant amount of time to cut through thick metal

Because lightsabers can only cut stuff they touch. They're not like animu swords that cut stuff miles away.

[Pantalones]

...I was comparing them to the Kienzan, which also only cuts stuff it touches but does so pretty much instantly even in the case of appendages belonging to someone as strong as Freeza, who's a whole lot tougher than a metal door. An ordinary object like a metal door puts up some resistance to a lightsaber blade so it takes a while to cut through, while a Kienzan would just slice right through it pretty much instantly (or at least, in only the time it takes to move from one side of the door to the next.)

As far as swords go, Trunks and Yajirobe's swords also only seem to cut what they actually touch. I don't see how swords managing to cut objects much larger or further away than what they can realistically touch with one swing has anything to do with this comparison at all, since nobody actually mentioned swords, only Kienzan and lightsabers... so I'm not sure why you even brought it up.

Also: no horrible-Internet-people-style intentional misspellings, please.

[mysticboy]

A tournament of Cell-tier fighters:

Bojack
VS.
Broly (Movie 8; no constant ki rising)

Dabura
VS.
Pikkon

Piccolo
VS.
Trunks (both with one year of training after the Cell Games)

Goku
VS.
Olibu

Vegeta (one year of training after Cell Games)
VS.
Gohan (six months of training after CG; no SSJ2)

Who goes on to fight who? Who wins the tournament?

[Fox666]

and lightsabers have been shown to take a significant amount of time to cut through thick metal

Because lightsabers can only cut stuff they touch. They're not like animu swords that cut stuff miles away.

Not in Dragon Ball at least.

[Saiga]

I'm not sure about individual matchups, but Paikuhan would definitely win the tournament. He'd just blitz everyone like he blitzed Cell.

[dbzfan7]

Ultimate Gohan vs SSJ4 Gohan

Also if Gohan trained after achieving his Ultimate Power up could he get stronger? I would think so, but nothing like a boost you get from a massive transformation.

[Strife1]

A tournament of Cell-tier fighters:

Bojack
VS.
Broly (Movie 8; no constant ki rising)

Dabura
VS.
Paikuhan

Piccolo
VS.
Trunks (both with one year of training after the Cell Games)

Goku
VS.
Olibu

Vegeta (one year of training after Cell Games)
VS.
Gohan (six months of training after CG; no SSJ2)

Who goes on to fight who? Who wins the tournament?

Bojack first form loses; Second form stomps.
If Paikuhan uses his thunderflash (Which is like the Kaioken) Then he wins easily. If he doesn't, then Dabra beats him without too much trouble.
Ssj Trunks, unless Trunks is in base, then Piccolo stomps.
Goku
Gohan

Ultimate Gohan vs SSJ4 Gohan

Also if Gohan trained after achieving his Ultimate Power up could he get stronger? I would think so, but nothing like a boost you get from a massive transformation.

If it's Ssj4 from the Buu saga, then Ultimate Gohan wins in a close match. If it's Ssj4 Gohan from the Cell Saga, then they're evenly matched. If it's post Gt, then Ssj4 Gohan stomps with no problems at all.