"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[Hellspawn28]

By that logic the opposite is also true. And this is 2016, not 1855. I buy the products as much as any Japanese, it's a globalized world.

Yeah, but the series is airing in Japan and is made for the Japanese audience. We are not the main target audience and Japan always make anime based on Japanese demographics only. It's no different here in the US since we don't make cartoons for Japan and China in mind. Transformers has a big fandom in Japan, but the animators and writers for the current series on Cartoon Network show is not going to care what the fans outside the US are going to say. It's the demographic in the US does. No different in Japan since Toei is only going to care about the Japanese demographic for Super.

[Drayenko]

And how does that mean I can't complain?

[Hellspawn28]

You can, but the people at Toei are not going to listen to you unless you are from Japan and paying to watch it on TV over there.

[sintzu]

You can, but the people at Toei are not going to listen to you unless you are from Japan and paying to watch it on TV over there.

They would if their international $$$ stopped coming in.

[Lord Beerus]

You can, but the people at Toei are not going to listen to you unless you are from Japan and paying to watch it on TV over there.

They would if their international $$$ stopped coming in.

Won't happen. Dragon Ball may be a niche franchise but at the same time its appeal internationally is too strong for it to suffer any major loss in worldwide profit. Dragon Ball is one of those "tag the name on it and it will sell" franchises. I mean, despite what the fandom may think about GT, it was still a huge ratings hit on Toonami and still remains as one of FUNimations best ever selling products on DVD.

[Hellspawn28]

GT did poorly in Japan though. How much money that they make in the home country comes first than the rest of the world later. It's not much different over here. That's why movies like Golden Compass is view as a flop because it made little money over in the US compare to the rest of the world.

[VegettoEX]

GT did poorly in Japan though.

Not quite sure you can reduce that down to such a simple, short sentence.

The GT Dragon Box did better than any of the previous boxes. Sure, maybe you could say its lower price point was a factor, but that doesn't take away from its accomplishment.

GT's still a massive part of their video game strategy, up through just last week with Super Baby 2 being included in Extreme Butoden.

[Hellspawn28]

I was talking about it when it air on TV in 1996-1997. GT came out right after DBZ ended and GT didn't live up to both DB and DBZ. The show had a much shorter run since GT had 64 episodes while DBZ had 291 episodes. Toei most likely wanted GT to become as big as DBZ, but didn't since the show's ratings drop low early on the show. I would imagine that they would have kept the series going after 1997 if GT did better.

[Wezenheim]

Recently re-read chapter 9, realized I loved this trick and I wonder if Toyotaro was slightly inspired by episode 11.

Spoiler:

[Retan]

What's so special about it?

[Wezenheim]

I think it's cool.

[ChronoTwigger]

I'll be technical.

The issue with DBS it's how it get produced. Have you noticed...
No speed attacks
No close up
No attack deformations (punches are just arm stretched, no "flash of colours" that hint speed)
No camera movements...
No repeating sequences...
No microanimations (Goku hair never move... Goku dress never flap...)
No impact lines

All those things in fact are convenient, while you draw less the whole stuff seems more cinematic. Japanese animators use them each day.
But they require a given storyboard.

To my knowledge, Toriyama produce a simple, comic-like storyboard. That's good enough for Toyotaro to produce a dynamic, effective manga.
But it's horrible to translate directly into an animation.

It's just what happened with new Dr.Slump. A lazy, silly director.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

To my knowledge, Toriyama produce a simple, comic-like storyboard. That's good enough for Toyotaro to produce a dynamic, effective manga.
But it's horrible to translate directly into an animation.

There is absolutely nothing implying Toriyama has drawn anything beyond character designs. Everything we have says he wrote a "thick plot", which almost certainly doesn't mean a "script" like he wrote for Battle of Gods and Resurrection "F". Other inside sources confirm he has even less involvement than he did with the movies.

Heck, he wasn't even finished with his designs by the time Toyotaro started working on the Champa Arc chapters (noted by things like the differences in design of Jaco's new ship), so there's no way he's sketching anything close to a storyboard.

[BluePiccolo]

Do we have a date for the next chapter?

[VegettoEX]

Do we have a date for the next chapter?

V-Jump is released on the 21st of every month pending Sundays/holidays.

[Kuririn Fan]

Do we have a date for the next chapter?

Its been going on for 9 months, my good man.

[BluePiccolo]

Do we have a date for the next chapter?

Its been going on for 9 months, my good man.

I'm more of an anime type of guy but I'm leaning more towards the Super manga lately - it's drawn better, it's more fun and straight to the point. Wish it would come out more frequently though, I know this is standard but still, one can hope. Živ bio, komšija.

[Kuririn Fan]

Do we have a date for the next chapter?

Its been going on for 9 months, my good man.

I'm more of an anime type of guy but I'm leaning more towards the Super manga lately - it's drawn better, it's more fun and straight to the point. Wish it would come out more frequently though, I know this is standard but still, one can hope. Živ bio, komšija.

Its not the standard, this is a monthly promo manga and I'm not gonna read it anymore. Also, how do you know Serbian, where are you from?

[BluePiccolo]

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Its not the standard, this is a monthly promo manga and I'm not gonna read it anymore. Also, how do you know Serbian, where are you from?

I mean standard for this kind of manga. Dragon Ball used to be a weekly chapter manga from 1984 - 1995.
Let's just say, for the sake of not going into offtopic too much, that I enjoy the Adriatic sea, especially Kotor and the Boka bay. Pozdrav iz Vojvodine

[kinisking]

To my knowledge, Toriyama produce a simple, comic-like storyboard. That's good enough for Toyotaro to produce a dynamic, effective manga.
But it's horrible to translate directly into an animation.

There is absolutely nothing implying Toriyama has drawn anything beyond character designs. Everything we have says he wrote a "thick plot", which almost certainly doesn't mean a "script" like he wrote for Battle of Gods and Resurrection "F". Other inside sources confirm he has even less involvement than he did with the movies.

Heck, he wasn't even finished with his designs by the time Toyotaro started working on the Champa Arc chapters (noted by things like the differences in design of Jaco's new ship), so there's no way he's sketching anything close to a storyboard.

Even less involvement than he did with the movies? He was pretty damn involved in bog and even more so with ROF. Also, uou're giving him way to little credit. He was definitely talking about the super dragonballs and going to u6 as if he wrote it himself. He's definitely not writing script but he's writing the general plot like why the tournaments set up. who wins the tournament, how, what happens afterwards kind of thing.