"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

[dbzfan7]

SSJ4: bad design, easier way to obtain than SSJ3, and freaken broken.

Really? Personally it's one of the best designed forms. Though the rest I agree with as it's easier and just overall much better than 3, without a real weakness. It's arguable but unlikely cutting the tail off would make SSJ4 impossible. Still a hell of a lot better than God IMO. Though I've seen plenty of people hate the look of SSJ4. My issue is no nipples outside of being a little too OP a form.

SSJ God is at least balanced. Requires five Saiyans with righteous hearts (bad enough that there are only two pure Saiyans alive; three if you count Tarble being legit and 5 hybrids as of the end of DBZ), has a short time limit, and still isn't enough to be completely equal to Beerus or Whis. Also, I love the design compared to SSJ4. It isn't overkill and gives us a nod to Goku's Kaio-Ken which had long since been forgotten. Oh, and it's Akira's creation unlike SSJ4. Hell SSJ God doesn't even have a plot hole involved in it.

Difference of opinion on looks but what? Balanced? What the hell are you talking about. God is the most broken form of all time. Maybe in a crisis it'd be impractical, but in anyones down time, you don't even have to train. You don't even need to be really strong. You just need some good pals and you reach a level of power Goku deemed impossible for him to reach on his own. Literally no amount of training would ever get him that powerful. Tarble could become a beast just by being part of a happy fun time circle for a minute. If he can't absorb the power...then try again and again til he does. Nothing says they can't just keep trying til he gets it right. The boys themselves master forms and techniques easier than the adults, so they'd be gods in no time as well. SSJ God is stupidly broken. Might be inconvenient for bad saiyans, but for good saiyans it's super broken. It's so conveniently broken for them. SSJ alone was practically out of every saiyans grasp.

[BlazingBarrrager]

Um...why do I get the feeling after watching this trailer that the minute Jaco shows up in Revival of F he ends up being Yamchaed a LOT?

[Dyno]

I'll put this image for anyone who wishes to translate it... We got the "Saiyan beyond God" from the cards, but could it be the same written in that in-game picture? Just curiosity, if it is the same, please don't translate it then.

Spoiler:

And... If there is anything I should know from this, I would thank you beforehand.

Spoiler:

[gokugambitoptimus]

Goku´s new transformation ?

[GoldLiger]

Goku´s new transformation ?

He won't change at all. Look at the "new form" that is partially shown. Usually they have a different skin tone.

[Dyno]

Goku´s new transformation ?

We already discussed about it. To sum things up, Dragon Ball Heroes calls it "Saiyan beyond God". We can't say much more than that because we also don't know that much, apparently, Heroes is waiting for the movie to premiere in order to do something right after it.

[KentalSSJ6]

Goku´s new transformation ?

He won't change at all. Look at the "new form" that is partially shown. Usually they have a different skin tone.

Unless it's a minor change like SSJG eyes to his base or he gains SSJ hair with the SSJG color scheme.

[GoldLiger]

Goku´s new transformation ?

He won't change at all. Look at the "new form" that is partially shown. Usually they have a different skin tone.

Unless it's a minor change like SSJG eyes to his base or he gains SSJ hair with the SSJG color scheme.

Base on the movie info we have so far....No remember that the SSG form from BoG wasn't Toriyama's ideal design. He wanted to keep Goku as basic as possible.

[KentalSSJ6]

And considering what we nearly had before Toriyama stepped in, it IS as basic as possible. We nearly got this (drawn by Kaboom) -



So IF SSJG is gonna get expanded on in some way, the changes should be as basic as possible too.

[Hellspawn28]

I wonder if this beyond god form could be SSj5? With Toyable working on the Heroes manga then anything is possible.

[ekrolo2]

And considering what we nearly had before Toriyama stepped in, it IS as basic as possible. We nearly got this (drawn by Kaboom) -



So IF SSJG is gonna get expanded on in some way, the changes should be as basic as possible too.

Finally! An actual picture of what it would've looked like!

[Dyno]

I wonder if this beyond god form could be SSj5? With Toyable working on the Heroes manga then anything is possible.

Don't think so. So far, we could say "Saiyan beyond God" is just "Ultimate/mystic". And I also don't think it is possible. Dragon Ball Heroes and Dragon Ball Heroes: Victory Mission only give characters already knew forms/transformations, so far, none new form was created.

[GoldLiger]

I wonder if this beyond god form could be SSj5? With Toyable working on the Heroes manga then anything is possible.

Don't think so. So far, we could say "Saiyan beyond God" is just "Ultimate/mystic". And I also don't think it is possible. Dragon Ball Heroes and Dragon Ball Heroes: Victory Mission only give characters already knew forms/transformations, so far, none new form was created.

I am glad someone agrees with the whole "Blue Mystic Vegeta" situation. I am keep telling people that the hints were giving in chapter 2 of the RF manga.

[Wilderness]

I wonder if this beyond god form could be SSj5? With Toyable working on the Heroes manga then anything is possible.

Don't think so. So far, we could say "Saiyan beyond God" is just "Ultimate/mystic". And I also don't think it is possible. Dragon Ball Heroes and Dragon Ball Heroes: Victory Mission only give characters already knew forms/transformations, so far, none new form was created.

I am glad someone agrees with the whole "Blue Mystic Vegeta" situation. I am keep telling people that the hints were giving in chapter 2 of the RF manga.

Can you tell us what these hints are? I feel like I've missed them.

From what I've read from the manga, there are hints of progression of Vegeta, but this delusion of "Blue Mystic" is really baffling me. It started from a rumour that was already proven to be false thanks to the confirmed runtime of the movie. Sorry to bust your bubble mate, but I can't see it happening.

[Dyno]

There are no hints of Vegeta being a blue Super Saiyan God. This is a fans' minds thing. We actually need to see the movie first.

[GoldLiger]

There are no hints of Vegeta being a blue Super Saiyan God. This is a fans' minds thing. We actually need to see the movie first.

How can you not see the obvious hints in that manga chapter? Heck Gohan provides the hints himself. Here are the hints about the two facts about the transformation in this movie:

No Super Saiyan God form: (Gohan) "Bulma told me not to tell Goten and Trunks about this upcoming battle. She is right, they are reckless."

Blue Mystic Vegeta form: (Gohan) "I can still go SUPER SAIYAN......maybe."

If you can't see the obvious hints then you need to really take advance reading comprehension. Without Goten and Trunks the ritual to get the SSG form will not happen. With Gohan loosing Mystic Mode proves that Toriyama has chosen that form for Vegeta(and Goku in Heroes).

[MCDaveG]

How can you not see the obvious hints in that manga chapter? Heck Gohan provides the hints himself. Here are the hints about the two facts about the transformation in this movie:

No Super Saiyan God form: (Gohan) "Bulma told me not to tell Goten and Trunks about this upcoming battle. She is right, they are reckless."

Blue Mystic Vegeta form: (Gohan) "I can still go SUPER SAIYAN......maybe."

Well, these hints are the same as saying that the Holy Bible is a crucial evidence about aliens creating the human life.
I don't see any connection for your claims, sorry.

[Dyno]

The best we can do is to ignore him.

No rudeness intended.

[GoldLiger]

The best we can do is to ignore him.

No rudeness intended.

But it is received. The movie will prove my point. You guys forget the simple fact that AT wants things simple. And Mystic Mode is as simple as you can get when it comes to transformations.

[FlpShimizu]

The best we can do is to ignore him.

No rudeness intended.

But it is received. The movie will prove my point. You guys forget the simple fact that AT wants things simple. And Mystic Mode is as simple as you can get when it comes to transformations.

You make no sense in 90% of your posts.