"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Kanassa]

In terms of the form, this is why I like the manga better, it's just more consistant. Now the anime is going to have to explain somehow why just now they've decided to use it. Is it because Blue takes too much power ? if that's the case then why did they use it for stupid things like baseball ? What about Vegeta, how'd he get it without using the ritual ? it's just going to be another inconsistancy with the anime.

The Manga the BoG retelling was completely different so God as a form made sense in Toyo continuity. I agree the anime is too problematic unless they mention the time limit thing is still in effect which made using it redundant given SSGSS. Vegeta I can guarantee will not use SSG in the anime, only Goku will use it, SSG was designed specially for Goku, I think they won't comment anything on Vegeta at all.

I just watched the English dub of RoF and a specific line threw me for a loop. They literally had Goku state that Vegeta didn't have SSG, was this the same in the subbed version?

Look at Trunks, he got a new form and technique yet everyone acted like it was normal and didn't question it so chances are the same thing will happen here. Or we could get a writer who cares about detail and give an answer that makes totel sense.

And look at Kaioken, Goku whipped it out in the Universe 6 tournament and it was fully explained why it works now and why he couldn't use it with Super Saiyan before. Chances are, the same thing could happen here.

[sintzu]

This is all about managing expectations.

Mine for the entire anime are low simply because I want to enjoy it as much as possible. The manga on the other hand has been very consistant in both art and writing so my expectations for that are very high and hopefully they'll continue to be lived up to.

I just watched the English dub of RoF and a specific line threw me for a loop. They literally had Goku state that Vegeta didn't have SSG, was this the same in the subbed version?

And look at Kaioken, Goku whipped it out in the Universe 6 tournament and it was fully explained why it works now and why he couldn't use it with Super Saiyan before. Chances are, the same thing could happen here.

They didn't in the sub version, they just said he didn't go through the ritual. If they said that in the dub then things will be worse for it later on.

But it didn't when Trunks got that...form so it's 50/50.

[Kanassa]

But it didn't when Trunks got that...form so it's 50/50.

Exactly.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

This is all about managing expectations.

Mine for the entire anime are low simply because I want to enjoy it as much as possible. The manga on the other hand has been very consistant in both art and writing so my expectations for that are very high and hopefully they'll continue to be lived up to.

For the anime my expectations are simple don't think too deep and am I enjoying myself? If you think too deep with DB (especially from Z onward) you will pick up on so many problems. For the Manga I wasn't enjoying it and have stopped reading, especially with the anime miles ahead the interest isn't there as-well.

I just watched the English dub of RoF and a specific line threw me for a loop. They literally had Goku state that Vegeta didn't have SSG, was this the same in the subbed version?

Yup, Goku said Vegeta "did it without the help of other Saiyans; he did it by himself".

[RedHeat]

Anyone know about the gallery where this was taken? Seems like they're showing off the concept art of all the predominate characters.

[Kanassa]

Anyone know about the gallery where this was taken? Seems like they're showing off the concept art of all the predominate characters.

Is it me, or is... Is Vegeta purple?

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Anyone know about the gallery where this was taken? Seems like they're showing off the concept art of all the predominate characters.


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From here:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vN7wFAJXik
Some sort of challenge event thing.

[mahakaishin1991]

This is all about managing expectations.

Mine for the entire anime are low simply because I want to enjoy it as much as possible. The manga on the other hand has been very consistant in both art and writing so my expectations for that are very high and hopefully they'll continue to be lived up to.

For the anime my expectations are simple don't think too deep and am I enjoying myself? If you think too deep with DB (especially from Z onward) you will pick up on so many problems. For the Manga I wasn't enjoying it and have stopped reading, especially with the anime miles ahead the interest isn't there as-well.

I just watched the English dub of RoF and a specific line threw me for a loop. They literally had Goku state that Vegeta didn't have SSG, was this the same in the subbed version?

Yup, Goku said Vegeta "did it without the help of other Saiyans; he did it by himself".

Back the HFIL up, when? I've watched the film I dont know how many times and dont recall that being said anywhere. Vegeta just powered up and totally smacked the hell out of frieza before the latter blows the planet up.

[OLKv3]

Lmao this is so satisfying to watch the people who claimed SSG was against Toriyama's vision

a) Toriyama explicitly said Goku wouldn't go SSG again.
b) Toriyama wanted to end BoG with regular SS.
c) SSG hadn't been seen since BoG arc in the anime.

So it wasn't a claim.

It was a claim, and a foolish one at that, since Toriyama approves everything that happens in the manga. And now it's also in the anime, so even more laughs.

[Shaqazooloo]

I see people vowing to quit watching Supers forever almost every week. Yet they are still around.

Thats because we're too far in. I think Supers pure trash at this point and almost dropped the show 3 times within the past 10 episodes. Unfortunately though, i've watched over a 100 episodes of this trash, so whether I like it or not i'm going to watch the rest I might skip episodes here or there, most likely the ones Toshio writes, but i'm going to see this thing through, even if it kills me... which it probably will

[OLKv3]

Mine for the entire anime are low simply because I want to enjoy it as much as possible. The manga on the other hand has been very consistant in both art and writing so my expectations for that are very high and hopefully they'll continue to be lived up to.

For the anime my expectations are simple don't think too deep and am I enjoying myself? If you think too deep with DB (especially from Z onward) you will pick up on so many problems. For the Manga I wasn't enjoying it and have stopped reading, especially with the anime miles ahead the interest isn't there as-well.

I just watched the English dub of RoF and a specific line threw me for a loop. They literally had Goku state that Vegeta didn't have SSG, was this the same in the subbed version?

Yup, Goku said Vegeta "did it without the help of other Saiyans; he did it by himself".

Back the HFIL up, when? I've watched the film I dont know how many times and dont recall that being said anywhere. Vegeta just powered up and totally smacked the hell out of frieza before the latter blows the planet up.

Because it wasn't in the movie. In the movie he said he wants to do the SSG ritual next time, and then RoF had no mention of him gaining power on his own
By Baggie's logic, that would mean Toei went against Toriyama's vision

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Back the HFIL up, when? I've watched the film I dont know how many times and dont recall that being said anywhere. Vegeta just powered up and totally smacked the hell out of frieza before the latter blows the planet up.

It was in the Resurrection "F" retelling arc and so take it with a grain of salt.

Because it wasn't in the movie. In the movie he said he wants to do the SSG ritual next time, and then RoF had no mention of him gaining power on his own
By Baggie's logic, that would mean Toei went against Toriyama's vision

Except this is different because Toriyama never said anything explicit about Vegeta unlike Goku and SSG, thus leaving Toei to their own devices.

[OLKv3]

Once again you're ignoring that Toyotaro runs all his scripts by Toriyama. You're also ignoring Toriyama say Goku won't use SS2 and SS3 anymore, yet he's used both in DBS. He even used SS3 in the Krillin filler episodes.
The claim that he somehow disrespected Toriyama and went against his vision was always complete nonsense, especially now that SSG is returning. And what's funnier, Goku using SSG on an opponent that's giving Hit trouble nerfs Hit down to his manga level, something else certain parts of the fanbase crapped on

[fadeddreams5]

I'm going to laugh if they reveal SSJG is stronger than SSJB. Like, just ignore what was stated in the F arc.

[Ki Breaker]

I'm going to laugh if they reveal SSJG is stronger than SSJB. Like, just ignore what was stated in the F arc.

They won't go that far, even if they do I will be here defending it because
"It could always have gotten much stronger, by off screen training"

[perucho1990]

I'm going to laugh if they reveal SSJG is stronger than SSJB. Like, just ignore what was stated in the F arc.

And the perfect excuse if someone asks him why didnt he use SSJG before would be Goku saying "Oh I was just pretending to be retarded", kinda fitting for his character in DBS .

This is the same series that had Roshi surpass Gotenks.

[BlueBasilisk]

Mine for the entire anime are low simply because I want to enjoy it as much as possible. The manga on the other hand has been very consistant in both art and writing so my expectations for that are very high and hopefully they'll continue to be lived up to.

For the anime my expectations are simple don't think too deep and am I enjoying myself? If you think too deep with DB (especially from Z onward) you will pick up on so many problems. For the Manga I wasn't enjoying it and have stopped reading, especially with the anime miles ahead the interest isn't there as-well.

I just watched the English dub of RoF and a specific line threw me for a loop. They literally had Goku state that Vegeta didn't have SSG, was this the same in the subbed version?

Yup, Goku said Vegeta "did it without the help of other Saiyans; he did it by himself".

Back the HFIL up, when? I've watched the film I dont know how many times and dont recall that being said anywhere. Vegeta just powered up and totally smacked the hell out of frieza before the latter blows the planet up.

Goku mentioned it when he met up with Vegeta on Beerus' planet after Whis agreed to train him. Goku was impressed because Vegeta had gotten so strong on his own. Goku was unhappy with the power in the BoG arc because he didn't get it through his own efforts. I've always felt like they had Vegeta do it the hard way to say 'well, Goku COULD have gotten that strong by training' as a way of clearing that up.

And if I recall, before Vegeta gets to train with Whis, Goku tells him it's his turn to do the ritual and Vegeta actually refuses because SSG wasn't strong enough to beat Beerus. I think that was around episode 15 or 16?

[Kishido]

Once again you're ignoring that Toyotaro runs all his scripts by Toriyama. You're also ignoring Toriyama say Goku won't use SS2 and SS3 anymore, yet he's used both in DBS. He even used SS3 in the Krillin filler episodes.
The claim that he somehow disrespected Toriyama and went against his vision was always complete nonsense, especially now that SSG is returning. And what's funnier, Goku using SSG on an opponent that's giving Hit trouble nerfs Hit down to his manga level, something else certain parts of the fanbase crapped on

Goku and Vegeta both used SSJ2 in the manga as well

[TheMikado]

Once again you're ignoring that Toyotaro runs all his scripts by Toriyama. You're also ignoring Toriyama say Goku won't use SS2 and SS3 anymore, yet he's used both in DBS. He even used SS3 in the Krillin filler episodes.
The claim that he somehow disrespected Toriyama and went against his vision was always complete nonsense, especially now that SSG is returning. And what's funnier, Goku using SSG on an opponent that's giving Hit trouble nerfs Hit down to his manga level, something else certain parts of the fanbase crapped on

Goku and Vegeta both used SSJ2 in the manga as well

I think the point he's making is that the idea of Toyotaro "nerfing" Hit, being an "idiot and crap writer" who ignores Toriyama's words and incredibly ironic given these concepts being brought into the anime long long after the should have reasonably and logically been introduced.

[Will]

I'm going to laugh if they reveal SSJG is stronger than SSJB. Like, just ignore what was stated in the F arc.

And the perfect excuse if someone asks him why didnt he use SSJG before would be Goku saying "Oh I was just pretending to be retarded", kinda fitting for his character in DBS .

This is the same series that had Roshi surpass Gotenks.

Roshi didn't surpass Gotenks.