DragonBall Z Abridged

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Post by Dr. Machismo » Mon Aug 12, 2013 2:46 pm

Show's funny overall, but I feel as if the jokes are often just too dorky and nerdy.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Aug 12, 2013 2:47 pm

Dr. Machismo wrote:Show's funny overall, but I feel as if the jokes are often just too dorky and nerdy.
And what's wrong with that?
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Insertclevername » Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:56 pm

Dr. Machismo wrote:Show's funny overall, but I feel as if the jokes are often just too dorky and nerdy.
I guess that's what happens when you do a parody series of a children's television show.
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Post by Jackal puFF » Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:07 pm

To each their own I guess? Everything can be dorky and nerdy.

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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Dr. Machismo » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:56 pm

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Dr. Machismo wrote:Show's funny overall, but I feel as if the jokes are often just too dorky and nerdy.
I guess that's what happens when you do a parody series of a children's television show.
Dragonball Z is not a children's television in an American sense. Most likely only in a Japanese sense.
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Post by VegettoEX » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:29 pm

Dr. Machismo wrote:Dragonball Z is not a children's television in an American sense. Most likely only in a Japanese sense.
Every single time slot DBZ has ever aired in -- save the brief appearance with the "Ultimate Uncut Edition" on the Midnight Run -- has been a kids' block through and through. It doesn't get any more kids than with Saturday morning cartoons and immediately after school at 5 pm.

The whole franchise is a show for kids in every country it's ever aired in. Just because you can be older and still enjoy it doesn't take away from its charm, but let's no delude ourselves here.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Dr. Machismo » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:32 pm

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Dr. Machismo wrote:Dragonball Z is not a children's television in an American sense. Most likely only in a Japanese sense.
Every single time slot DBZ has ever aired in -- save the brief appearance with the "Ultimate Uncut Edition" on the Midnight Run -- has been a kids' block through and through. It doesn't get any more kids than with Saturday morning cartoons and immediately after school at 5 pm.

The whole franchise is a show for kids in every country it's ever aired in. Just because you can be older and still enjoy it doesn't take away from its charm, but let's no delude ourselves here.
It's marketed as a kid's show to a degree, but the show itself really isn't something for kids. That's why it has to be censored and edited heavily.

You could market South Park as a kid's show. Doesn't make it by itself a kid's show.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Taku128 » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:21 pm

Yeah, DBZ is pretty clearly for adults, not kids. Such richly developed characters as "guy who really likes to fight and eat" and "guy who really hates the guy who really likes to fight and eat because he's stronger than him" can't be appreciated by children, and I saw a guy bleed once and that's a no no.
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Post by Insertclevername » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:30 pm

Except whatever you define as suitable for children is subjective. Everyone's a different kind of parent raising different kinds of kids.

Even if South Park was targeted for kids, it would still technically make it a kids show. A very, very controversial kids show but a show aimed at children none the less. What your trying to argue is what you personally feel isn't right for children, which is irrelevant. Dragon Ball was made for children (more specifically preteen boys), therefor it's a children's show. A show made with intentions of being viewed by children.

That's like if I said Jack & Jill isn't a comedy because I don't find it funny. It's still a comedy, just one that I think isn't humorous.

Then again, I'm pretty sure Jack & Jill is objectively bad
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:31 pm

It is indeed a kids show, but I doubt the 'real' uncensored version would be considered as one in the US with the cursing and constant horrifying and borderline excessive blood and gore. People geting impaled, being punched so hard their insides get all fucked up and they puke blood, guys getting cut in half, a guy popping like a balloon, another guy having the life literally drained out of him, children getting their necks broken, people getting holes in their chests, arms being ripped off, arms and legs being broken, et cetera.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Dr. Machismo » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:35 pm

It is indeed a kids show, but I doubt the 'real' uncensored version would be considered as one in the US with the cursing and constant horrifying and borderline excessive blood and gore. People geting impaled, being punched so hard their insides get all fucked up and they puke blood, guys getting cut in half, a guy popping like a balloon, another guy having the life literally drained out of him, children getting their necks broken, people getting holes in their chests, arms being ripped off, arms and legs being broken, et cetera.
And that's why, based on most American standards, the actual Dragonball is not for kids. Let's not forget the other suggestive themes (like the initial mild sexual content) as well.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Insertclevername » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:37 pm

Except it's not a majorities rule. A majority can deem something unsuitable for kids but that doesn't change the fact that it's still intended for children.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Dr. Machismo » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:38 pm

Insertclevername wrote:Except it's not a majorities rule. A majority can deem something unsuitable for kids but that doesn't change the fact that it's still intended for children.
The actual Dragonball is not intended for American children. Only the edited version is. You can edit and dumb something down to make it more suitable for them, but that doesn't mean the original content.
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Post by Insertclevername » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:41 pm

Dragon Ball was serialized in Shonen Jump and is widely considered a shonen anime.

Shōnen (少年?), shonen, or shounen, is a Kanji word literally meaning few years and generally referring to a typical boy, from elementary school through grade school age.

By foreign standards, the original may not be suitable for children. Doesn't change the fact that the majority of the world considers it a kids show edited or not. Even despite that, it's targeted for kids anyway.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Dr. Machismo » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:42 pm

Insertclevername wrote:Dragon Ball was serialized in Shonen Jump and is widely considered a shonen anime.

Shōnen (少年?), shonen, or shounen, is a Kanji word literally meaning few years and generally referring to a typical boy, from elementary school through grade school age.
That still doesn't make the original Dragonball meant for American children. For Japanese children, probably, but not American children.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Insertclevername » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:49 pm

I've already addressed that argument.

In ways, you're right. Dragon Ball was never made with the intentions of being shown to American Children. However that doesn't mean the orignal is meant for adults. Things aren't so black and white. A show can be meant for children yet have material that people may find unsuitable. That doesn't automatically mean it's for adults. If it was made for adults, the edits would never have existed and the show would never had aired on Toonami.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Adamant » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:51 pm

Dr. Machismo wrote:
Insertclevername wrote:Dragon Ball was serialized in Shonen Jump and is widely considered a shonen anime.

Shōnen (少年?), shonen, or shounen, is a Kanji word literally meaning few years and generally referring to a typical boy, from elementary school through grade school age.
That still doesn't make the original Dragonball meant for American children. For Japanese children, probably, but not American children.
That doesn't make it not a children's show, it makes it a children's show that doesn't confirm to certain regulations in some country half a world away that children's shows need to follow before being allowed on air there.
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