"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Baggie_Saiyan]

But it doesn't make sense. In GT there is no mention of Super Saiyan God. Super Saiyan 4 doesn't make sense when God exists.

Supreme Kai and Kibito are still fused. There is no Beerus/Whis. No mention of other universes. There's no way it can fit into the current timeline at all.

Again, them including this here at a store/event that is a celebration of Dragon Ball does not mean GT and Super exist in the same continuity, it's just an acknowledgement that GT is a show that existed and is a part of the franchise.

Yeah it's an event for celebration of Dragon Ball, here's the (ugly) visual for the event:
[spoiler][/spoiler]
GT happened and it's foolish for them to acknowledge it didn't. If Super ends at EoZ then they can continue like they have but if DBS wants to go past EoZ then things will get tricky but given the immense success of DBS I think they'll be willing to sacrifice GT off.

[Kanassa]

GT did not have bad writing. Just because a bunch of youtube comments say so because the compare what they loved about Z does not make GT have a bad script. A few inconsistencies does not make it automatically bad writing. GT has plenty of soul in it.

Black Dragon Balls Arc, Super 17 Arc, Most of the Shadow Dragons Arc had Hiro Mashima level of writing, bad attempt at gags, horrible sense of humor, forgettable antagonists, horrible characterization(See Pan).

So you are stating your opinion as a fact.

Like you were. You're both hypocrites.

[ArchedThunder]

Yeah it's an event for celebration of Dragon Ball, here's the (ugly) visual for the event:
[spoiler][/spoiler]
GT happened and it's foolish for them to acknowledge it didn't. If Super ends at EoZ then they can continue like they have but if DBS wants to go past EoZ then things will get tricky but given the immense success of DBS I think they'll be willing to sacrifice GT off.

It's simple, if the new era of Dragon Ball ever over laps with GT directly in terms of timeline they can just outright say GT is an "alternate world". That way they don't make GT fans feel like it's been invalidated and it still leaves them plenty of room for crossing them over in video games, or if they are really ballsy they can still do a special or something that crosses them over, though I'd rather they not.

[Cetra]

Black Dragon Balls Arc, Super 17 Arc, Most of the Shadow Dragons Arc had Hiro Mashima level of writing, bad attempt at gags, horrible sense of humor, forgettable antagonists, horrible characterization(See Pan).

So you are stating your opinion as a fact.

Like you were. You're both hypocrites.

Have you even read my other posts? I have thoroughly explained that for my comment I have considered a standard that is not universally considered as a fact. Before accusing someone you should read what they have to say.

[Draconic]

They can't just write off the show they've marketed as the continuation of Z for 20 years like that. Unless they actually get into that time frame with the story, even if Super or a Super sequel go until the last day of the last year before GT and continuity wise nothing ties in, they'll keep it. No matter how many people dislike the show, it's a much bigger part of the franchise than any pre-BoG movie, so of course they'll acknoweledge it. Like it or not GT will be held in the same regard as the original two shows as long as Dragon Ball exists.

[ArchedThunder]

They can't just write off the show they've marketed as the continuation of Z for 20 years like that. Unless they actually get into that time frame with the story, even if Super or a Super sequel go until the last day of the last year before GT and continuity wise nothing ties in, they'll keep it. No matter how many people dislike the show, it's a much bigger part of the franchise than any pre-BoG movie, so of course they'll acknoweledge it. Like it or not GT will be held in the same regard as the original two shows as long as Dragon Ball exists.

Like I said, they don't need to write it off if they ever get new Dragon Ball to that point, they can just say it's an alternate world.

[perucho1990]

They should just mention that GT happened in one of the 5 timelines, for me this would be an easy way to fix this issue...

[Draconic]

They can't just write off the show they've marketed as the continuation of Z for 20 years like that. Unless they actually get into that time frame with the story, even if Super or a Super sequel go until the last day of the last year before GT and continuity wise nothing ties in, they'll keep it. No matter how many people dislike the show, it's a much bigger part of the franchise than any pre-BoG movie, so of course they'll acknoweledge it. Like it or not GT will be held in the same regard as the original two shows as long as Dragon Ball exists.

Like I said, they don't need to write it off if they ever get new Dragon Ball to that point, they can just say it's an alternate world.

It was a bit late when I proof read that part to change it, but yeah, I agree. Like you said, if they actually get to that time frame there's still stunts they can make to keep both shows. Hell, I imagine if that moment actually comes, they won't make a special, but actually devote an entire arc to that crossover.

[ArchedThunder]

It was a bit late when I proof read that part to change it, but yeah, I agree. Like you said, if they actually get to that time frame there's still stunts they can make to keep both shows. Hell, I imagine if that moment actually comes, they won't make a special, but actually devote an entire arc to that crossover.

Honestly, an arc about parallel worlds could be really interesting, and instead of just crossing over Super and GT they could bring in stuff from other places as well and make new versions of existing characters and new characters from unseen worlds.
It's probably not a story Toriyama would write, but by the time Super or a sequel to Super reaches the timeframe that GT takes place in I don't imagine he'll still be the one in-charge, and it certainly seems like something Toyotaro could come up with.

[Lord Frieza]

Here you go

頃 - around.[/quote]

Around? That has to be the most piss-poor, backhanded, handwave placation I have ever seen in my life.

Their entire way of dealing with the issue was.....one word? That should piss the rabid GT and Super fans off. Toeis promised you love, took your money, gave you a kiss on the cheek and f@#ked off.

Both sides get nothing.

[Sandubadear]

Love seeing people getting upset because GT exists.

[Zamasu55]

Love seeing people getting upset because GT exists.

It isn't canon.

[Alruneia]

Around? That has to be the most piss-poor, backhanded, handwave placation I have ever seen in my life.
Their entire way of dealing with the issue was.....one word? That should piss the rabid GT and Super fans off. Toeis promised you love, took your money, gave you a kiss on the cheek and f@#ked off.
Both sides get nothing.

It says "around 789" because GT does not only take place in 789, but in 790 as well. The timeskips in GT force it.

[Cetra]

Love seeing people getting upset because GT exists.

The rage outbursts from people will be bigger than that of Trunks if Super suddenly takes some turns of events they never considered possible. But at this point we have to wait and see.

[Sandubadear]

Love seeing people getting upset because GT exists.

It isn't canon.

Sure bro.

[Lord Frieza]

Around? That has to be the most piss-poor, backhanded, handwave placation I have ever seen in my life.
Their entire way of dealing with the issue was.....one word? That should piss the rabid GT and Super fans off. Toeis promised you love, took your money, gave you a kiss on the cheek and f@#ked off.
Both sides get nothing.

It says "around 789" because GT does not only take place in 789, but in 790 as well. The timeskips in GT force it.

Thats even worse, to reference my metaphor, you didn't even get a kiss.

That entire timeline just shows how much Toei love money and do not care about the fans petty squabbles over continuity.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Yeah it's an event for celebration of Dragon Ball, here's the (ugly) visual for the event:
[spoiler][/spoiler]
GT happened and it's foolish for them to acknowledge it didn't. If Super ends at EoZ then they can continue like they have but if DBS wants to go past EoZ then things will get tricky but given the immense success of DBS I think they'll be willing to sacrifice GT off.

It's simple, if the new era of Dragon Ball ever over laps with GT directly in terms of timeline they can just outright say GT is an "alternate world". That way they don't make GT fans feel like it's been invalidated and it still leaves them plenty of room for crossing them over in video games, or if they are really ballsy they can still do a special or something that crosses them over, though I'd rather they not.

Good point. But people thinking that they're gonna tie DBS into GT is what scratches my head. After each new arc in DBS they're getting further and further away from GT... How many extra wishes have we had? Pilaf crew basically have become tertiary characters and of course all the god forms and god stuff and then there's 17. Regardless of how they'll treat GT in the future for a fact we know Super will not link in with it.

[RedHeat]

Around? That has to be the most piss-poor, backhanded, handwave placation I have ever seen in my life.
Their entire way of dealing with the issue was.....one word? That should piss the rabid GT and Super fans off. Toeis promised you love, took your money, gave you a kiss on the cheek and f@#ked off.
Both sides get nothing.

It says "around 789" because GT does not only take place in 789, but in 790 as well. The timeskips in GT force it.

Thats even worse, to reference my metaphor, you didn't even get a kiss.

That entire timeline just shows how much Toei love money and do not care about the fans petty squabbles over continuity.

Is that a good or bad thing?

[perucho1990]

Is that a good or bad thing?

Well, current Toei mentality is basically like the WWE(main priority is the money over what the fans want).

[Lord Frieza]

It says "around 789" because GT does not only take place in 789, but in 790 as well. The timeskips in GT force it.

Thats even worse, to reference my metaphor, you didn't even get a kiss.

That entire timeline just shows how much Toei love money and do not care about the fans petty squabbles over continuity.

Is that a good or bad thing?

Depends on your perspective. While I prefer Super, I've watched and loved GT for years. I dont care, I've got my headcannon that they are different timelines and I'm happy. They dont have to kill the eachother to validate themselves to me.

However if your a rabid fanperson who has a left/right wing mentality, this is only going to causes a few long and boring forum cannon wars till Episode 103.