The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:47 am

Since Gohan thought Goku was actually playing around when he in fact was fighting at full-power, I'd say Gohan is way stronger than Goku. Enough to outclass him in power and speed with ease.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Strife1 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:03 am

Ssj Gotenks Pre Rosat Vs. Fat Buu
Ssj Gotenks Post Rosat vs Fat Buu

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Post by Fox666 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:39 am

Even if Gotenks was the strongest of the two, he would fool around, if not letting himself being absorbed. In any case Gotenks loose.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:12 am

Strife1 wrote:Ssj Gotenks Pre Rosat Vs. Fat Buu
Ssj Gotenks Post Rosat vs Fat Buu
Man we have been on this for a while. I really don't want to argue about this again but I will state I think Gotenks wins both as long as he doesn't waste his 30 minutes.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kaboom » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:48 am

I think that only AFTER his stint in the Room of Spirit and Time, Gotenks might have the power to take on Fat Boo with just SSj1. But whether he did or not... he'd find a way to screw around and lose.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Gonstead » Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:08 am

Here's a completely ridiculous scenario.

Bebi in control of Buuhan who has also absorbed Cell who absorbed LSSJ Broly vs Vegetto with Old Kai potential unlocked
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Post by Saiga » Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:31 am

Bebi alone would take Vegetto.
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Post by Insertclevername » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:38 pm

Gonstead wrote:Here's a completely ridiculous scenario.

Bebi in control of Buuhan who has also absorbed Cell who absorbed LSSJ Broly vs Vegetto with Old Kai potential unlocked
Vegetto. The Old Kaioshin potential makes it ridiculously unfair.
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Post by hleV » Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:28 pm

Base Vegetto without potential unlocked wins.
Stop putting anyone against Vegetto (unless it's another Vegetto). It just won't work.

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Post by freezamite » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:14 pm

Vegetto vs Cell/Freezer trained to the limit of their power.

I think this mach goes clearly for Freezer/Cell, because Vegetto is a fusion made by two fighters who actually reached or were really close to reach their limit in power (not only in base, but also in their SSJ forms) so I don't think that he could improve a lot even with training, while the others were naturally over-powered beings with an overwelming power that allowed them to rule the whole universe and that never had trained even a bit.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:31 pm

freezamite wrote:Vegetto vs Cell/Freezer trained to the limit of their power.
Vegetto wins easily. He is ridiculously overpowered. His whole character was to show how overpowered he is by making Boohan look like a fool. Even in Candy form he still could easily destroy Boohan.

The only person who might be stronger then Vegetto is Bils. An official statement said Bils is the strongest being in Z history. Though I'm still skeptical if he is above Vegetto.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:33 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:The only person who might be stronger then Vegetto is Bils. An official statement said Bils is the strongest being in Z history. Though I'm still skeptical if he is above Vegetto.
Let's see the movie first to judge of Birusu is actually stronger than Vegetto or not.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:42 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:The only person who might be stronger then Vegetto is Bils. An official statement said Bils is the strongest being in Z history. Though I'm still skeptical if he is above Vegetto.
Let's see the movie first to judge of Birusu is actually stronger than Vegetto or not.
Of course. But as of now I'm skeptical because if Bils is above Vegetto, then Goku shouldn't even be able to fight him period. They hype Goku fighting him in space as the conclusion, but it would just end with an embarrassing defeat of Goku if Bils was that strong. But we gotta wait and see.
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Post by freezamite » Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:20 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:
freezamite wrote:Vegetto vs Cell/Freezer trained to the limit of their power.
Vegetto wins easily. He is ridiculously overpowered. His whole character was to show how overpowered he is by making Boohan look like a fool. Even in Candy form he still could easily destroy Boohan.
Yes, but think about the power Freezer or Cell could potentially achieve.
I mean, Goku is 400 at the beginning of Z, and he ends up at minimum 300.000 to fight freezer (not considering SSJ forms here because I doubt Freezer or Cell have an equivalent for that to surpass their normal limit). And that Goku had already trained a lot, if he hadn't his power would be that of a normal human being or a bit stronger, but not by much (maybe 10 units?).

Now take Freezer/Cell power, and increase it in the same way. I mean, Cell went from FPSSJ (Freezer level) to SSJ2 level from a simple Zenkay, how strong could those beings be if they trained as much as goku?
If we assume the same level of progression, I think they could kill Vegetto with only one punch!

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Rocketman » Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:33 pm

Vegetto obliterates.

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Post by freezamite » Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:51 pm

Rocketman wrote:Vegetto obliterates.
Vegetto's power was high, but not that much. I mean, he was stronger than Bu Gohan but at SSJ2 stage, and difference between SSJ2 and SSJ3 is not that high.
Do you really think that a Cell with lets say, 10.000 times his normal power would loose to Vegetto? I don't think so.

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Post by Rocketman » Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:10 pm

freezamite wrote:Do you really think that a Cell with lets say, 10.000 times his normal power would loose to Vegetto?
Yup. Lose badly, too.

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Post by Insertclevername » Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:11 pm

The difference between SSJ2 and SSJ3 is pretty dang high. SSJ2 is 100x your strength and SSJ3 is 400x your strength. That's 4 times higher!

Also, I'm pretty sure Vegetto was just in his regular SSJ state and not SSJ2. The only thing to hint that is the lightening but that's so damn inconsistent it's basically useless in determining forms.
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Post by Saiga » Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:16 pm

There's nothing to indicate that Cell and Freeza could get anywhere near that high. Higher "starting power" doesn't mean much.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Mystic Gohan » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:13 am

Vegetto is not the god that some make him out to be. While, he would win this match-up, his power is grossly inflated IMO.

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