English Dragon Box Release

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:16 pm

Rory wrote:Y'know what I hope?
I hope there is no Faulconer track on here, and we finally move past the "hardcore" aspect of Dragonball Z. Both tracks should have Kikuchi's original score, so if anybody imports it, they don't need to be dumbfounded by the god awful music on the "3rd" track.
It'd be a completely pure Dragonball experiance, even if you switch to the dub.

It wouldn't be COMPLETELY pure... there'd still be homoerotic grunting and lame one-liners out the wazoo. The faux-hardcore aspect wouldn't be COMPLETELY gone... but I hear you just the same. It'd be nice if FUNimation would at long last allow Dragon Ball-related marketing in the U.S. to finally outgrow that whole lame "hardcore to the extreme for 10 year old WWE fans" mentality and vibe. There'd be something almost depressingly pathetic about it happening 13 years too late, but it'd still be nice all the same.

SuperSaiyan3Goku · Post by **SuperSaiyan3Goku** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:17 pm

Wow, this is sudden. If I was here earlier, I would have found out.

Damn, those lazy bastards are finally doing it! After years of fan outcry, the failed Remastered sets, it's finally going to happen!

But if it doesn't have English dub, than it's not really worth buying in my eyes I like to have the "Complete" package, having both English and Japanese.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:17 pm

Kunzait_83 wrote:
Rory wrote:Y'know what I hope?
I hope there is no Faulconer track on here, and we finally move past the "hardcore" aspect of Dragonball Z. Both tracks should have Kikuchi's original score, so if anybody imports it, they don't need to be dumbfounded by the god awful music on the "3rd" track.
It'd be a completely pure Dragonball experiance, even if you switch to the dub.
It wouldn't be COMPLETELY pure... there'd still be homoerotic grunting and lame one-liners out the wazoo. The faux-hardcore aspect wouldn't be COMPLETELY gone... but I hear you just the same. It'd be nice if FUNimation would at long last allow Dragon Ball-related marketing in the U.S. to finally outgrow that whole lame "hardcore to the extreme for 10 year old WWE fans" mentality and vibe.

Exactly. It obviously won't be completely pure, so they might as well KEEP the dub music.

Krycek7o2 · Post by **Krycek7o2** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:17 pm

DBW wrote:
Krycek7o2 wrote: People like what they like. Personally, I hated the Season Sets from the start, other prefer the cropping and so-called remastering. Other think this is the best of the best, but to the more geekier crowd, we know better.

To me, even though I own all the Dragon Boxes, will be buying this set DAY 1. I'm selling the Season Sets on eBay in the next few days. There's no point in owning them now, me being a purist and all.
Yeah, I'm double dipping on the boxes too.

And he's entitled to like what he wants, I was just wondering. It just sounded like he was wanting to buy this because everybody else is, as opposed to his actual preferences.

Now there's something I never thought I would say or hear; double dipping on the Dragon Boxes. LOL, still shocking to me to hear this. Guess, I can finally stop my subbing project on the Dragon Boxes, too!

I do hope they release all the Dragon Ball and DBGT boxes in the future. It's the least they can do for the sub-par American releases.

Acid_Reign · Post by **Acid_Reign** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:18 pm

DBW wrote:Both versions are now going to be available to us, I don't think we need to go down this road again. Like most people, he probably has a widescreen TV and prefers when the image fills the entire frame. It's not uncommon.

Or he “prefers” it because he already paid for it…

I am not trying to incite argument here; just curious: did anyone actually think that, cost aside, the FUNi image was superior to the D.Box, or were they simply coping with the supposition that the D.Box would never have a stateside equivalent?

MCDaveG · Post by **MCDaveG** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:18 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
Rory wrote:Y'know what I hope?
I hope there is no Faulconer track on here, and we finally move past the "hardcore" aspect of Dragonball Z. Both tracks should have Kikuchi's original score, so if anybody imports it, they don't need to be dumbfounded by the god awful music on the "3rd" track.
It'd be a completely pure Dragonball experiance, even if you switch to the dub.
I love subjectivity

Subjectivity not subjectivity, that Faulconer's music isn't bad, but really awfully mixed into show, in final it sounds like some bad techno/rock goulash mixtape.....

Presc503 · Post by **Presc503** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:18 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
Rory wrote:Y'know what I hope?
I hope there is no Faulconer track on here, and we finally move past the "hardcore" aspect of Dragonball Z. Both tracks should have Kikuchi's original score, so if anybody imports it, they don't need to be dumbfounded by the god awful music on the "3rd" track.
It'd be a completely pure Dragonball experiance, even if you switch to the dub.
I love subjectivity

Yeah, but this time Funi isn't bullshitting when they claim, "They way DBZ was meant to be seen," or, "The definitive edition."

Objectively, this is first true release to the series.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:20 pm

Presc503 wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:
Rory wrote:Y'know what I hope?
I hope there is no Faulconer track on here, and we finally move past the "hardcore" aspect of Dragonball Z. Both tracks should have Kikuchi's original score, so if anybody imports it, they don't need to be dumbfounded by the god awful music on the "3rd" track.
It'd be a completely pure Dragonball experiance, even if you switch to the dub.
I love subjectivity
Yeah, but this time Funi isn't bullshitting when they claim, "They way DBZ was meant to be seen," or, "The definitive edition."

Objectively, this is first true release to the series.

So they might as well make it a complete release and include BOTH dub tracks AND the Japanese track. Like it or not, the dub music is still A PART of Dragon Ball and it'd be silly not to include it to just to satisfy a few people who hate it. I mean, you guys don't HAVE to listen to the dub bgm if you hate it. But don't be selfish and say it should be excluded because you hate it.

RoarkVegeta · Post by **RoarkVegeta** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:20 pm

Looks like they're doing the spine in small pieces...

MCDaveG · Post by **MCDaveG** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:21 pm

Presc503 wrote: Yeah, but this time Funi isn't bullshitting when they claim, "They way DBZ was meant to be seen," or, "The definitive edition."

Objectively, this is first true release to the series.

Sometimes I'm asking myself, it's financial crisis, where Funimation get all those money for releasing tons of Dragon Ball editions??

Big Boss · Post by **Big Boss** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:22 pm

MCDaveG wrote:
Presc503 wrote: Yeah, but this time Funi isn't bullshitting when they claim, "They way DBZ was meant to be seen," or, "The definitive edition."

Objectively, this is first true release to the series.
Sometimes I'm asking myself, it's financial crisis, where Funimation get all those money for releasing tons of Dragon Ball editions??

Because each release before it made a ton of money.

SonGokuGT · Post by **SonGokuGT** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:23 pm

Quadruple dip for me!

-FUNi Singles
-FUNi Seasons
-Spanish DragonBoxes
-FUNi DragonBoxes

Let's do this thing! I am so amazed and happy that this has happened... I'm at a loss for words so I'll just leave it at that.

Presc503 · Post by **Presc503** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:24 pm

MCDaveG wrote:
Presc503 wrote: Yeah, but this time Funi isn't bullshitting when they claim, "They way DBZ was meant to be seen," or, "The definitive edition."

Objectively, this is first true release to the series.
Sometimes I'm asking myself, it's financial crisis, where Funimation get all those money for releasing tons of Dragon Ball editions??

Gen Fukunaga sells arms to North Korea. He's actually really experimenting with the Dragon Ball fan community to test our reactions to their products, which means we probably won't be getting Dragon Ball Dragon Box, just Z.

I can just picture him sitting in his oak-laden office rubbing his hands while surrounded by piles of unmarked bills.

DBW · Post by **DBW** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:24 pm

Acid_Reign wrote:
DBW wrote:Both versions are now going to be available to us, I don't think we need to go down this road again. Like most people, he probably has a widescreen TV and prefers when the image fills the entire frame. It's not uncommon.
Or he “prefers” it because he already paid for it… I am not trying to incite argument here; just curious: did anyone actually think that, cost aside, the FUNi image was superior to the D.Box, or were they simply coping with the supposition that the D.Box would never have a stateside equivalent?

True. I do recall a lot of people hating on the Dragon Box video and praising the season sets back when they were first coming out. I wonder if we have any flip-floppers among us...

MCDaveG · Post by **MCDaveG** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:24 pm

SonGokuGT wrote:Quadruple dip for me!

-FUNi Singles
-FUNi Seasons
-Spanish DragonBoxes
-FUNi DragonBoxes

Let's do this thing! I am so amazed and happy that this has happened... I'm at a loss for words so I'll just leave it at that.

Let's call it Funi-Mas

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:27 pm

Wow, 27 pages in less than 12 hours. That's amazing.

VenomSymbiote · Post by **VenomSymbiote** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:27 pm

DBW wrote:
Acid_Reign wrote:
DBW wrote:Both versions are now going to be available to us, I don't think we need to go down this road again. Like most people, he probably has a widescreen TV and prefers when the image fills the entire frame. It's not uncommon.
Or he “prefers” it because he already paid for it… I am not trying to incite argument here; just curious: did anyone actually think that, cost aside, the FUNi image was superior to the D.Box, or were they simply coping with the supposition that the D.Box would never have a stateside equivalent?
True. I do recall a lot of people hating on the Dragon Box video and praising the season sets back when they were first coming out. I wonder if we have any flip-floppers among us...

In all honesty, I very much prefer the Season Set footage over the Dragon Boxes.

I don't really get technical terms, so, while the Dragon Box may have superior remastering, to my eyes, the Season Sets are better.

DaemonCorps · Post by **DaemonCorps** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:28 pm

Hokay caught up with the 12 pages that suddenly popped into existence while I was away. Not gonna reply to any of that nonsense, though and figured I'd mention something else I find more interesting.

Based on the three images from the daizex main page, it looks like the packaging will be pretty close to the original Dragon Box release except that Goku's image has been resized to fit the majority of the box. As mentioned by Castor Troy, since there will be six other releases after this one, as opposed to Japan's two, I'm guessing FUNi will take one of the remaining six pictures on the two Dragon Boxes for each of their own releases. The remaining character are Freeza, Imperfect Cell, SSJ Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, and Gohan (from the spine). I'm pretty sure Kuririn being on the Dragon Boxes was only done for the bootlegs.

As for the spine image being made, it looks like even though there will be the same number of cases as the original Japanese release, so there's no problem there. But what gets me is that the American mock-up has the image looking much bigger, cutting off the image at around Gohan's collar. Not that big a deal, but kinda strange for them to do that.

For the booklet, I don't really care much for it (as long as I have my Dragon Box footage in Japanese subbed, I'm a happy camper), but I agree that they'd be the same as the Season Set booklets, just fleshed out a bit.

Rory · Post by **Rory** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:28 pm

I just realised what absolutely immaculate marketing FUNimation has done. Tease us with the Ultimate Uncuts, then make a shit tonne of money with a cheap "room for improvement" Season Set, and now give us what we wanted all along, talk about squeezing the towel.
And here we are, praising them like the messiah. We Dragonball fans are truely the bitches of the anime community, arn't we?

Acid_Reign · Post by **Acid_Reign** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:29 pm

Rory wrote:Y'know what I hope?
I hope there is no Faulconer track on here, and we finally move past the "hardcore" aspect of Dragonball Z. Both tracks should have Kikuchi's original score, so if anybody imports it, they don't need to be dumbfounded by the god awful music on the "3rd" track.
It'd be a completely pure Dragonball experiance, even if you switch to the dub.

The completist in me wants that track on there regardless of my feelings toward it. It’s been around for too long to just pretend it doesn’t exist. That’s how a lot of us first experienced the show, and I think it’s fun being able to relive that, even if the Japanese score ultimately suits the show better.