Death Battle! Goku VS Superman Disscussion Thread

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Re: Death Battle! Goku VS Superman Disscussion Thread

Post by Sinestro » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:26 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Dub music and voice acting. Ugh.
They had some Japanese music in there.

And surely you didn't expect them to show Japanese clips?

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Post by TonyTheTiger » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:27 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:I still say without the sun dip Goku would have taken it. He fought and wore down Superman to the point where he would have won, then he blew it by firing him into the sun which is usually what he resorts to. Sun dipping gives Supes a huge boost.
Once again, the fight itself isn't what determines the outcome. It's not like "well, if Superman didn't do this" or "if Goku did this." It's a matter of crunching the numbers, doing the assessment, deciding a winner, and then crafting a video for purely entertainment purposes and for the sake of drama.
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Re: Death Battle! Goku VS Superman Disscussion Thread

Post by Kaboom » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:28 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:I still say without the sun dip Goku would have taken it. He fought and wore down Superman to the point where he would have won, then he blew it by firing him into the sun which is usually what he resorts to. Sun dipping gives Supes a huge boost.
True, but Goku was left equally drained from his own assault as well. So at the end, we had both of them pull out their trump cards; Supes' sun-dipping and Goku absorbing the Spirit Bomb. Unfortunately, it resulted in just the same "limits vs haxed" status quo, only on a much more extreme scale.

All in all, I think it was a pretty accurate representation. VERY well done.
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Re: Death Battle! Goku VS Superman Disscussion Thread

Post by Gonstead » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:30 pm

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JulieYBM wrote:Dub music and voice acting. Ugh.
I thought the voice acting was the best part.
I think he means for the stock footage from DBZ.

Also, I was almost expecting Goku to simply transmit back to Superman from the dead, seeing as a dead body would be more or less better in terms of Ki reserves.
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Re: Death Battle! Goku VS Superman Disscussion Thread

Post by JulieYBM » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:31 pm

Sinestro wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:Dub music and voice acting. Ugh.
They had some Japanese music in there.

And surely you didn't expect them to show Japanese clips?

Yeah, I know, don't call you Shirley. :)
"We're all counting on you, good luck."

Actually, I was hoping they would, considering how they said "no mistranslations" would be used. None of Superman's clips are dubbed, either! :P
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Re: Death Battle! Goku VS Superman Disscussion Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:32 pm

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dbzfan7 wrote:I still say without the sun dip Goku would have taken it. He fought and wore down Superman to the point where he would have won, then he blew it by firing him into the sun which is usually what he resorts to. Sun dipping gives Supes a huge boost.
True, but Goku was left equally drained from his own assault as well. So at the end, we had both of them pull out their trump cards; Supes' sun-dipping and Goku absorbing the Spirit Bomb. Unfortunately, it resulted in just the same "limits vs haxed" status quo, only on a much more extreme scale.

All in all, I think it was a pretty accurate representation. VERY well done.
Supes I say would have been in a worse case. Goku even when powering up the spirit bomb still had enough energy to go SSJ. So if he didn't fire him into the sun he probably would have won. But due to how Goku fights, he would fire him into the sun. All i'm saying is if he didn't shoot him into the sun, he probably would have won. But realistically he would have so the fight is correct. Goku seemed to have the advantage at SSJ4, but firing him into the sun costed him the match.
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Re: Death Battle! Goku VS Superman Disscussion Thread

Post by Gokuden » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:33 pm

SPOILERS

This is bullshit! Goku could have easily killed Supes when he was near Kryptonite, or let him have prolonged exposure and die naturally. If a villain had that chance, Supes would have died. Because of that, I think Goku won the match. Moreover, ''Superman is as strong as he needs to be'' really? That just sounds like an excuse for writers to reach into an infinite pool of gimmicks to make him stronger. There are several different versions of Superman, and only one of Goku, if they put Earth One Supes in the ring, the outcome would have been totally different. Superman Prime is a ripoff of God himself. Also, Goku could have teleported Supes away from the sun, why he didn't is a goof on ScrewAttack's part.

I also agree with Gonstead, in that they should have continued the battle in Otherworld, and the Kai World. Remember, Superman was a major threat to the Earth, and exceptions should be made BABA, actually he did destroy the Earth lol.
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Re: Death Battle! Goku VS Superman Disscussion Thread

Post by Sinestro » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:36 pm

JulieYBM wrote:
Sinestro wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:Dub music and voice acting. Ugh.
They had some Japanese music in there.

And surely you didn't expect them to show Japanese clips?

Yeah, I know, don't call you Shirley. :)
"We're all counting on you, good luck."

Actually, I was hoping they would, considering how they said "no mistranslations" would be used. None of Superman's clips are dubbed, either! :P
I have to say... I did look at it funny when they said "No mistranslations", but they kept using the dub.

Not that I minded, but still.

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Re: Death Battle! Goku VS Superman Disscussion Thread

Post by batistabus » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:38 pm

Gokuden wrote:SPOILERS
This is bullshit! Goku could have easily killed Supes when he was near Kryptonite, or let him have prolonged exposure and die naturally. If a villain had that chance, Supes would have died. Because of that, I think Goku won the match.

Moreover, ''Superman is as strong as he needs to be'' really? That just sounds like an excuse for writers to reach into an infinite pool of gimmicks to make him stronger.

Also, Goku could have teleported Supes away from the sun, why he didn't is a goof on ScrewAttack's part.
If this was a real fight, Kryptonite wouldn't have even been in the equation. They literally just included that to show Goku likes a fair fight.

It is what it is. There's no point in arguing it...the most you can do is just dislike the character.

Where would you like him to teleport to? You mentioned the Kaioshin realm or heaven, but there's still a sun there. In fact, there are multiple. http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/4100 ... 7ebyq4.jpg

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:42 pm

That was awesome. I knew Superman would win and I love all of the butthurt on Facebook right now.
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Post by Insertclevername » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:43 pm

I thought it was pretty sweet! Would have loved a final shot of Gokuu in Heaven or something just as a joke on the fact that he never really dies. Overall, very entertaining but I knew Supes would win from the get go. :wink:
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Post by Gokuden » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:48 pm

batistabus wrote:
Gokuden wrote:SPOILERS
This is bullshit! Goku could have easily killed Supes when he was near Kryptonite, or let him have prolonged exposure and die naturally. If a villain had that chance, Supes would have died. Because of that, I think Goku won the match.

Moreover, ''Superman is as strong as he needs to be'' really? That just sounds like an excuse for writers to reach into an infinite pool of gimmicks to make him stronger.

Also, Goku could have teleported Supes away from the sun, why he didn't is a goof on ScrewAttack's part.
If this was a real fight, Kryptonite wouldn't have even been in the equation. They literally just included that to show Goku likes a fair fight.

It is what it is. There's no point in arguing it...the most you can do is just dislike the character.

Where would you like him to teleport to? You mentioned the Kaioshin realm or heaven, but there's still a sun there. In fact, there are multiple. http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/4100 ... 7ebyq4.jpg
Goku could just blow-up the sun in the other realms, and not have to worry about the supernova killing people in the mortal realm, while leaving Superman weakened over there. HAHAHA Brilliant! Then come back as a SSJ4 via IT with or without senzu beans to obliterate Supes. :wave:
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Post by Sinestro » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:48 pm

Hey, if Superman can't, who can? :)

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Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:51 pm

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dbzfan7 wrote:I still say without the sun dip Goku would have taken it. He fought and wore down Superman to the point where he would have won, then he blew it by firing him into the sun which is usually what he resorts to. Sun dipping gives Supes a huge boost.
Once again, the fight itself isn't what determines the outcome. It's not like "well, if Superman didn't do this" or "if Goku did this." It's a matter of crunching the numbers, doing the assessment, deciding a winner, and then crafting a video for purely entertainment purposes and for the sake of drama.
True. Though why did they ignore Goku being stronger in Gt? In base or SSJ he was already at SSJ3 level. Instead they stuck with the 40 tons from before. Should have started at 16000 since Gt was included. If SSJ Goku GT=SSJ3 Goku Z then base would be 320 tons which would lead to either 64 million tons (if base Goku GT=SSJ3 Z) or 1.28 million tons (if SSJ Goku GT= SSJ3 Goku Z) . Wouldn't change that much but still.
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Post by mysticboy » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:54 pm

Never in my life have I seen such an incompetent video player. Someone, wake me when it's on youtube.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:56 pm

I like Goku destroying the Kryptonite rock. Goku knows that Superman is not evil and it seems like something he would likely do.
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Post by Gonstead » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:01 pm

mysticboy wrote:Never in my life have I seen such an incompetent video player. Someone, wake me when it's on youtube.
Seems to work perfectly fine for a lot of us.
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Re: Death Battle! Goku VS Superman Disscussion Thread

Post by JulieYBM » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:10 pm

Their calculations were very well done. I actually agree with their train of thought, although I think dramatically speaking ending the fight with Gokuu winning would probably make more sense.

I do have to wonder, though...while battle powers are pretty much useless, I think it's interesting what one could take from them. With a battle power of 90,000 Gokuu had no trouble at 100G. His last known battle power is 150,000,000 (a 1666.66666667-times increase). Shouldn't that have been factored in (or did I miss that?)
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Post by Attitudefan » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:12 pm

I saw the end a long time ago...
"Kaio-KEN!!!" "Kaio-WHAT?!?" BAM! lol, the best part in my eyes. That part was a great homage to TFS, who provided much of the voice acting for the DBZ characters.

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Post by Gonstead » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:16 pm

Now the next discussion....

Vegetto/SSJ4 Gogeta vs Superman.

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