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Yes, the chain is clearly Broly = SS Gogeta > Goku's Toei Punch > Broly (1%, humoring the heroes) >> SS3 Goku = Pure Buu = SS2 Goku >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vegetto > Buuhan > Buutenks > SS Goku (full power) > Gohan > Super Buu > Gotenks > Fat Buu > SS2 Vegeta. The introduction to a video game told me so.
Also Mecha Freeza >>>>>>>>>>>>> SS3 Goku = Pure Buu >>>>>>>>>> Vegetto >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trunks > Mecha Freeza (suppressed). This was a what if scenario in Budokai Tenkaichi 1 this is undeniable cannon.
Also Mecha Freeza >>>>>>>>>>>>> SS3 Goku = Pure Buu >>>>>>>>>> Vegetto >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trunks > Mecha Freeza (suppressed). This was a what if scenario in Budokai Tenkaichi 1 this is undeniable cannon.
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The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Yea, I heard there are some people out there who actually believe SSJ4 Gogeta could stand even a CHANCE against the almighty Broly. Perish the thought. LSSJ4 Broly is unlimited.dbzfan7 wrote:Everyone knows Mr. Satan is the strongest. Goku is a pussy ass bitch compared to him. Followed by Broly because his power is maximum and takes out galaxies..herp a derp #ChurchofGoku
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OMG you forgot Mr. Satan. I beat Broly's ass with Mr. Satan in the games so he is clearly stronger then Broly.RandomGuy96 wrote:Yes, the chain is clearly Broly = SS Gogeta > Goku's Toei Punch > Broly (1%, humoring the heroes) >> SS3 Goku = Pure Buu = SS2 Goku >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vegetto > Buuhan > Buutenks > SS Goku (full power) > Gohan > Super Buu > Gotenks > Fat Buu > SS2 Vegeta. The introduction to a video game told me so.
LSSJ4 Broly is a pussy. Mr. Satan beats SSJ Infinity.Draken wrote:Yea, I heard there are some people out there who actually believe SSJ4 Gogeta could stand even a CHANCE against the almighty Broly. Perish the thought. LSSJ4 Broly is unlimited.
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His power is maximum.Draken wrote:Yea, I heard there are some people out there who actually believe SSJ4 Gogeta could stand even a CHANCE against the almighty Broly. Perish the thought. LSSJ4 Broly is unlimited.dbzfan7 wrote:Everyone knows Mr. Satan is the strongest. Goku is a pussy ass bitch compared to him. Followed by Broly because his power is maximum and takes out galaxies..herp a derp #ChurchofGoku
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Indeed. I also pwned SS4 Gogeta with Satan in BT3, but then proceeded to defeat him with Yajirobe, but then I played as Satan and defeated Yajirobe in the rematch. I also beat SS4 Gogeta with Broly in BT3 this is undeniable cannon. The chain goes Satan (full power) >>>>>> Yajirobe (badass motherfucker mode) >>>>>>>>>>> Satan >>>>>>>>>>> base Goku >>>>>>>>>>> Broly >>>>>>>>> SS4 Gogeta > all of Z x 100000000000.
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The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Don't forget to put Mr. Satan above SSJ Infinity(your tricks don't work on him)RandomGuy96 wrote:Indeed. I also pwned SS4 Gogeta with Satan in BT3, but then proceeded to defeat him with Yajirobe, but then I played as Satan and defeated Yajirobe in the rematch. I also beat Broly with SS4 Gogeta in BT3 this is undeniable cannon. The chain goes Satan (full power) >>>>>> Yajirobe (badass motherfucker mode) >>>>>>>>>>> Satan >>>>>>>>>>> base Goku >>>>>>>>>>> Broly >>>>>>>>> SS4 Gogeta > all of Z x 100000000000.
Mr. Satan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SSJ Infinity Goku>Broly is maximum>all
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Remember, Videl is specifically stated to be stronger than Mr. Satan. So, according to Toryama himself, she should be at the top.dbzfan7 wrote:Don't forget to put Mr. Satan above SSJ Infinity(your tricks don't work on him)RandomGuy96 wrote:Indeed. I also pwned SS4 Gogeta with Satan in BT3, but then proceeded to defeat him with Yajirobe, but then I played as Satan and defeated Yajirobe in the rematch. I also beat Broly with SS4 Gogeta in BT3 this is undeniable cannon. The chain goes Satan (full power) >>>>>> Yajirobe (badass motherfucker mode) >>>>>>>>>>> Satan >>>>>>>>>>> base Goku >>>>>>>>>>> Broly >>>>>>>>> SS4 Gogeta > all of Z x 100000000000.
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Mr. Satan holds back. He hides his ki. So it only appears Videl is stronger. However being the daughter of Mr. Satan, her power is maximum.Kamiccolo9 wrote:Remember, Videl is specifically stated to be stronger than Mr. Satan. So, according to Toryama himself, she should be at the top.dbzfan7 wrote:Don't forget to put Mr. Satan above SSJ Infinity(your tricks don't work on him)RandomGuy96 wrote:Indeed. I also pwned SS4 Gogeta with Satan in BT3, but then proceeded to defeat him with Yajirobe, but then I played as Satan and defeated Yajirobe in the rematch. I also beat Broly with SS4 Gogeta in BT3 this is undeniable cannon. The chain goes Satan (full power) >>>>>> Yajirobe (badass motherfucker mode) >>>>>>>>>>> Satan >>>>>>>>>>> base Goku >>>>>>>>>>> Broly >>>>>>>>> SS4 Gogeta > all of Z x 100000000000.
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This thread now has the potential to be a lot more friendly and productive. So let's try to get all Grand Elder up in here and pull out that hidden potential, okay? Right now, there doesn't seem to be a lot of worth. I'm not even sure what the topic at hand is supposed to be at this point...
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There's also the fact that Videl has feats against Broly in Movie 10 clearly making her >>>>> SS4 Gogeta.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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There was potential?Kaboom wrote:This thread now has the potential to be a lot more friendly and productive. So let's try to get all Grand Elder up in here and pull out that hidden potential, okay? Right now, there doesn't seem to be a lot of worth. I'm not even sure what the topic at hand is supposed to be at this point...

She came from Mr. Satan's almighty seed. Of course she is above SSJ4 Gogeta. The only thing close to Mr. Satan is Goku's Super Toei Form (Only achievable when Goku gathers the Ki of 7 pure Toei writers).RandomGuy96 wrote:There's also the fact that Videl has feats against Broly in Movie 10 clearly making her >>>>> SS4 Gogeta.
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Now it does? Did something change O_O. Well we were having a good discussion about teleporting, then back to the power discussions, then someone went a little negative~ (singsong voice)Kaboom wrote:This thread now has the potential to be a lot more friendly and productive. So let's try to get all Grand Elder up in here and pull out that hidden potential, okay? Right now, there doesn't seem to be a lot of worth. I'm not even sure what the topic at hand is supposed to be at this point...
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What's with the troll fest? Yeah this topic wasn't exactly the most productive of topics but still...
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Well since some people enjoy nonsense, we all started pitching in our own 2 cents of it. Got to make the thread fun again some how.TheMightyOzaru wrote:What's with the troll fest? Yeah this topic wasn't exactly the most productive of topics but still...
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The topic devolved into nonsense at page 1 and got saved with the interesting teleporting theories. It just came back to the nonsense so we decided to roll with it.Kaboom wrote:Fun is fun, but we don't want topics devolving into nonsense. Remember the podcast's tagline: "Enlightening and entertaining."
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How about discussing the possibility of Good Buu regaining the power of Fat Buu when he is spit out by Kid Buu.
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Good Buu probably should have all the power that Fat Buu was allowed to use without splitting, because Kid Buu has all of the unrestrained evil Buu power just like Evil did.
Here's another one: how much stronger was Gotenks than Super Buu, exactly? I seem to recall him pulverizing Buu when he got serious.
Here's another one: how much stronger was Gotenks than Super Buu, exactly? I seem to recall him pulverizing Buu when he got serious.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Well Boo hit Gotenks about 3 times, and for every hit Boo did, it seemed that Gotenks hit him much harder. Hand to hand combat Gotenks completely dominated. I'd say there's a 1.2-1.5 x difference. People could argue that Boo set up his plan by losing to Gotenks so he would fuse again, if he battered Gotenks the boys would know not to fuse a second time, as it would be pointless. No absorption for Boo that way.
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Nop, because Pure Evil Buu has the most part of Fat Buu's power, whereas Kid Buu is stronger than Fat. And it's logical, because Pure Evil Buu lost a part of his "Buu power" when he splitted.because Kid Buu has all of the unrestrained evil Buu power just like Evil did.