Unpopular DB opinions

[TheUltimateNinja]

Beerus was legitimately going to destroy the Earth if he got annoyed, though.

While I do appreciate those high stakes, it was cheap. They should've had him threaten to destroy different things, working his way up to the planet.

That would most likely prove unintentionally hilarious, and upon further reflection given the comedic tone of the movie would have been a good move.

[ekrolo2]

BoG is the best DBZ just for all the stuff they bring up about pride and how Goku's has gone fully off the rails and Vegeta's fully willing to toss his aside. It might lack the crazy good visuals of movies 1,3, 12 but it set a good standard for a new, more self-aware and subversive DB everything after it has shat on completely l.

[TheUltimateNinja]

BoG is the best DBZ just for all the stuff they bring up about pride and how Goku's has gone fully off the rails and Vegeta's fully willing to toss his aside. It might lack the crazy good visuals of movies 1,3, 12 but it set a good standard for a new, more self-aware and subversive DB everything after it has shat on completely l.

>Lacking crazy good visuals

>This scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlZ6mmjnvFw

[Jinzoningen MULE]

BoG is the best DBZ just for all the stuff they bring up about pride and how Goku's has gone fully off the rails and Vegeta's fully willing to toss his aside. It might lack the crazy good visuals of movies 1,3, 12 but it set a good standard for a new, more self-aware and subversive DB everything after it has shat on completely l.

>Lacking crazy good visuals

>This scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlZ6mmjnvFw

One good scene doesn't equate to a visually stunning movie, which BoG was not.

[ekrolo2]

BoG is the best DBZ just for all the stuff they bring up about pride and how Goku's has gone fully off the rails and Vegeta's fully willing to toss his aside. It might lack the crazy good visuals of movies 1,3, 12 but it set a good standard for a new, more self-aware and subversive DB everything after it has shat on completely l.

>Lacking crazy good visuals

>This scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlZ6mmjnvFw

I stand by what I said. That one scene and the God transformation looking fantastic doesn't change the fact a lot of Goku vs Beerus visuals wise is meh and the entire movie having this weird washed out look to it. It most defenitely lacks the visual appeal of the first three and 12th Z movie. It also doesn't help the new style for the series is ugly as shit.

[TheUltimateNinja]

BoG is the best DBZ just for all the stuff they bring up about pride and how Goku's has gone fully off the rails and Vegeta's fully willing to toss his aside. It might lack the crazy good visuals of movies 1,3, 12 but it set a good standard for a new, more self-aware and subversive DB everything after it has shat on completely l.

>Lacking crazy good visuals

>This scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlZ6mmjnvFw

One good scene doesn't equate to a visually stunning movie, which BoG was not.

Eh, besides the CG parts the whole movie looked good to me.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

>Lacking crazy good visuals

>This scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlZ6mmjnvFw

One good scene doesn't equate to a visually stunning movie, which BoG was not.

Eh, besides the CG parts the whole movie looked good to me.

It wasn't bad by any means, but it wasn't anything impressive, and it had a few bad stretches. Also, I'm not willing to pretend that the CGI doesn't exist to make the movie seem better than it was.

[TheUltimateNinja]

One good scene doesn't equate to a visually stunning movie, which BoG was not.

Eh, besides the CG parts the whole movie looked good to me.

It wasn't bad by any means, but it wasn't anything impressive, and it had a few bad stretches. Also, I'm not willing to pretend that the CGI doesn't exist to make the movie seem better than it was.

I do wonder what led to those shots being added in, and why the decision to use CGI was made in the first place. A lot of people had to look at it and go, "Yep, this is acceptable" for it to make it into the movie, and it's disappointing to see it next to beautiful work like Shida's.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Eh, besides the CG parts the whole movie looked good to me.

It wasn't bad by any means, but it wasn't anything impressive, and it had a few bad stretches. Also, I'm not willing to pretend that the CGI doesn't exist to make the movie seem better than it was.

I do wonder what led to those shots being added in, and why the decision to use CGI was made in the first place. A lot of people had to look at it and go, "Yep, this is acceptable" for it to make it into the movie, and it's disappointing to see it next to beautiful work like Shida's.

The same mentality that led Funimation to think "Kids don't like grain, let's throw a bucket of water on it, cut the tops and bottoms off, and throw it in a Doctor Seuss-esque machine, I'm sure these Orange Bricks will sell just fine!"

You know what the worst part is? They're right, the kids love it.

[TheUltimateNinja]

It wasn't bad by any means, but it wasn't anything impressive, and it had a few bad stretches. Also, I'm not willing to pretend that the CGI doesn't exist to make the movie seem better than it was.

I do wonder what led to those shots being added in, and why the decision to use CGI was made in the first place. A lot of people had to look at it and go, "Yep, this is acceptable" for it to make it into the movie, and it's disappointing to see it next to beautiful work like Shida's.

The same mentality that led Funimation to think "Kids don't like grain, let's throw a bucket of water on it, cut the tops and bottoms off, and throw it in a Doctor Suess-esque machine, I'm sure these Orange Bricks will sell just fine!"

You know what the worst part is? They're right, the kids love it.

Well, for me Dragon Ball is quite nostalgic so I'm willing to put up with a lot, be it subpar animation or bizarre plot contrivances. Even the supposedly bad movies like 6 & 10 were alright to me. I think the only parts I legitimately disliked were the earlier episodes of GT.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I do wonder what led to those shots being added in, and why the decision to use CGI was made in the first place. A lot of people had to look at it and go, "Yep, this is acceptable" for it to make it into the movie, and it's disappointing to see it next to beautiful work like Shida's.

The same mentality that led Funimation to think "Kids don't like grain, let's throw a bucket of water on it, cut the tops and bottoms off, and throw it in a Doctor Suess-esque machine, I'm sure these Orange Bricks will sell just fine!"

You know what the worst part is? They're right, the kids love it.

Well, for me Dragon Ball is quite nostalgic so I'm willing to put up with a lot, be it subpar animation or bizarre plot contrivances. Even the supposedly bad movies like 6 & 10 were alright to me. I think the only parts I legitimately disliked were the earlier episodes of GT.

My nostalgia wore off a long time ago, now I'm more interested in what's actually good.

[Sailor Haumea]

Also, I like Mecha Freeza's design the best out of all of Freeza's designs. Especially Super DBZ's version.

Oh my god, I love Full Armor Mecha-Frieza (Mecha-Frieza in Super DBZ)!

[Gaffer Tape]

None of this goes against what I said.

The point presented is bad because the material that's meant to support it is bad.

The point presented was that Minus shows that Bardock could be one to beg for his sons safety, whether you like minus or not does not prove or disprove the point, nor make the point itself bad.

Well, you could make the argument that the Bardock in the Special and the Bardock in Dragon Ball Minus are two completely different characters. Because they are. There's just no way to possibly reconcile them as the same character. They explicitly contradict each other both in premise and in execution. So erkolo2 is referring to the character in the special, who would most likely never give a crap about his son. So you saying that there is a Bardock who would feel that way is true, but it also doesn't make what he's saying about his particular Bardock untrue either.

[The Patrolman]

I will never understand when people say Super regressed Vegeta character to his Cell arc counterpart because I don't see it. Oh he is obsessed with Goku again is not a good argument and to me people miss the point. Vegeta obsession with Goku lead to him not caring about anyone but himself which led to the death of innocent lives. This is more evident on how he feels when Trunks asks him on why he didnt save his wife and son. Compare this to him in Super where he actually cares about his family's safety. It's more in Super with Vegeta and Trunks relationship is a big contrast on what their relationship was in the Cell Arc. Vegeta actually shows compassion and motivates Trunks to not give up.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I will never understand when people say Super regressed Vegeta character to his Cell arc counterpart because I don't see it. Oh he is obsessed with Goku again is not a good argument and to me people miss the point. Vegeta obsession with Goku lead to him not caring about anyone but himself which led to the death of innocent lives. This is more evident on how he feels when Trunks asks him on why he didnt save his wife and son. Compare this to him in Super where he actually cares about his family's safety. It's more in Super with Vegeta and Trunks relationship is a big contrast on what their relationship was in the Cell Arc. Vegeta actually shows compassion and motivates Trunks to not give up.

So what? Just because he didn't regress back to a zygote doesn't mean that he didn't regress at all.

[The Patrolman]

I will never understand when people say Super regressed Vegeta character to his Cell arc counterpart because I don't see it. Oh he is obsessed with Goku again is not a good argument and to me people miss the point. Vegeta obsession with Goku lead to him not caring about anyone but himself which led to the death of innocent lives. This is more evident on how he feels when Trunks asks him on why he didnt save his wife and son. Compare this to him in Super where he actually cares about his family's safety. It's more in Super with Vegeta and Trunks relationship is a big contrast on what their relationship was in the Cell Arc. Vegeta actually shows compassion and motivates Trunks to not give up.

So what? Just because he didn't regress back to a zygote doesn't mean that he didn't regress at all.

Zygote and also he hasn't regressed at all

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Zygote and also he hasn't regressed at all

But he obviously has. His character arc went one direction, Super undid that, and went another direction. That's literally what regression is. Also, you shouldn't try to correct my spelling of a word when 1: It's already correct, and 2: You spelled it the exact same way that I did.

[The Patrolman]

Zygote and also he hasn't regressed at all

But he obviously has. His character arc went one direction, Super undid that, and went another direction. That's literally what regression is. Also, you shouldn't try to correct my spelling of a word when 1: It's already correct, and 2: You spelled it the exact same way that I did.

I actually didn't understand what Zygote meant?

[Attitudefan]

The visually best DBZ films were Dragon Ball movie 2, 3, and Dragon Ball Z Dead Zone. Actually World's Strongest and the Janemba film are also really pretty too. But I love the Gothic atmosphere of DB 2 and DBZ 1, and the gorgeous animation and backgrounds of DB 3 and DBZ 2.

[Kaio_Krazy]

I really dislike the entire buu/boo arc, and would have prefered if the series had ended after the Cell arc. I am also not a fan of fusion, and I don't like Vegito/Gogeta, in particular. Totally okay if people enjoy those aspects of the series, but they are not for me.