"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by FortuneSSJ » Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:46 pm

So far, the only fight i think the manga did better is Goku vs Botamo.
It's not like Toei is doing a perfect job, but I find the other two better than the manga version.

It's always good to have both versions to enjoy the same story though. I'm glad the manga will keep ongoing.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Sodhi » Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:47 pm

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The cover of the collected volume. More info here.
WTF?! Is that real? We'll have a weekly DBS manga? Damn! Now there is no argument that this series isn't canon
There is no announcement of a weekly DBS manga as of yet. This is just the cover of Vol#1 which would release in April.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:59 pm

The mangaka for Super is better at drawing everyone then Toei is now. Weird how black and white looks more like it's there then the badly colored anime. Plus the action is better. Made Piccolo look a lot more....usefull.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by derpgoku » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:14 pm

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:The mangaka for Super is better at drawing everyone then Toei is now. Weird how black and white looks more like it's there then the badly colored anime. Plus the action is better. Made Piccolo look a lot more....usefull.
More like an idiot actually ,at least on the anime we knew if he hited frost ,frost would be done for ,in here .... he jobed hard.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by namekiansaiyan » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:25 pm

derpgoku wrote:
LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:The mangaka for Super is better at drawing everyone then Toei is now. Weird how black and white looks more like it's there then the badly colored anime. Plus the action is better. Made Piccolo look a lot more....usefull.
More like an idiot actually ,at least on the anime we knew if he hited frost ,frost would be done for ,in here .... he jobed hard.
In both versions Piccolo was never in trouble.
Manga used strength
Anime used skill

so I conclude Piccolo>Frost

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by dbgtFO » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:27 pm

Xeztin wrote:I'm still confused at the difference with Frost in the manga and anime. Which is the original design? Was it a mistake on Toyotaro's part? Guess we will find out in the next chapter.

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So fishing this out from exactly 2 weeks ago and doesn't it seem like Toyotaro is now drawing the head dome more like the design from the anime?
Of course we only have one example from last chapter to compare to, so maybe that was just a goof on his part?

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:38 pm

derpgoku wrote:
LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:The mangaka for Super is better at drawing everyone then Toei is now. Weird how black and white looks more like it's there then the badly colored anime. Plus the action is better. Made Piccolo look a lot more....usefull.
More like an idiot actually ,at least on the anime we knew if he hited frost ,frost would be done for ,in here .... he jobed hard.
Again, people keep ignoring the fact that it's stated in Frost personality tidbits I provided from my fiance that Frost only uses the poison needles when he's feeling threatened. Piccolo was going to win the match if things continued.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by namekiansaiyan » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:40 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
derpgoku wrote:
LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:The mangaka for Super is better at drawing everyone then Toei is now. Weird how black and white looks more like it's there then the badly colored anime. Plus the action is better. Made Piccolo look a lot more....usefull.
More like an idiot actually ,at least on the anime we knew if he hited frost ,frost would be done for ,in here .... he jobed hard.
Again, people keep ignoring the fact that it's stated in Forst personality tidbits I provided from my fiance that Frost only uses the poison needles when he's feeling threatened. Piccolo was going to win the match if things continued.
I know people like to ignore quite a lot of evidence on this website and make things up in their heads.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Xeztin » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:41 pm

Seems like this chapter mainly followed the anime, also another 31 page count! if you follow the previous pattern it seems like he will keep the 31 count up for about 4-5 chapters then it will rise again. I honestly believe it will go weekly if it stays behind the anime. :)
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by ZombieVito » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:41 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
derpgoku wrote:
LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:The mangaka for Super is better at drawing everyone then Toei is now. Weird how black and white looks more like it's there then the badly colored anime. Plus the action is better. Made Piccolo look a lot more....usefull.
More like an idiot actually ,at least on the anime we knew if he hited frost ,frost would be done for ,in here .... he jobed hard.
Again, people keep ignoring the fact that it's stated in Forst personality tidbits I provided from my fiance that Frost only uses the poison needles when he's feeling threatened. Piccolo was going to win the match if things continued.
:shock:

I really want to see this chapter translated now.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by alakazam^ » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:48 pm

Piccolo having five fingers really stood out to me. Did Toyotarou always draw him like this? I seem to remember a while back some discussion about number of fingers but I can't remember what that was about.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Pannaliciour » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:49 pm

How can people say that the fight between goku and frost was better in the anime than in the manga? In the manga it was top quality like goku vs Cell (anime)

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by namekiansaiyan » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:56 pm

alakazam^ wrote:Piccolo having five fingers really stood out to me. Did Toyotarou always draw him like this? I seem to remember a while back some discussion about number of fingers but I can't remember what that was about.
I think he always has. I think from now on he will always have 5 fingers, I think he looks better like that anyway.
Pannaliciour wrote:How can people say that the fight between goku and frost was better in the anime than in the manga? In the manga it was top quality like goku vs Cell (anime)
Goku vs Frost was much better in the manga I don't get why the anime was not like the manga.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by LightBing » Tue Mar 15, 2016 7:00 pm

alakazam^ wrote:Piccolo having five fingers really stood out to me. Did Toyotarou always draw him like this? I seem to remember a while back some discussion about number of fingers but I can't remember what that was about.
The discussion was about a ritual that consisted of cutting one's pinky as punishment, performed by the Yakuza. Reason or one of the reasons, why there's not many four-fingered characters in Japan.
I can't remember if Toyotaro changed it or not.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by derpgoku » Tue Mar 15, 2016 7:18 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
derpgoku wrote:
LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:The mangaka for Super is better at drawing everyone then Toei is now. Weird how black and white looks more like it's there then the badly colored anime. Plus the action is better. Made Piccolo look a lot more....usefull.
More like an idiot actually ,at least on the anime we knew if he hited frost ,frost would be done for ,in here .... he jobed hard.
Again, people keep ignoring the fact that it's stated in Frost personality tidbits I provided from my fiance that Frost only uses the poison needles when he's feeling threatened. Piccolo was going to win the match if things continued.
While both the anime and the manga draw to the same conclusion that without the poison frost would have lost ,the anime makes it more clear by adding lines and creating the situation for frost to lose .
In the manga they are fighting casualy and it doesn't show frost threatened THAT MUCH ,while in the anime we have frost tied up by picolo and about to be hit by the special beam canon which frost himself says it would have knocked him off ,in that situation he had no chance but to use the poision .

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Noah » Tue Mar 15, 2016 7:31 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Again, people keep ignoring the fact that it's stated in Frost personality tidbits I provided from my fiance that Frost only uses the poison needles when he's feeling threatened. Piccolo was going to win the match if things continued.
So... Frost being evil is "filler"?
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:08 pm

Noah wrote:So... Frost being evil is "filler"?
No, he's evil. He's just not an evil real estate oriented space pirate pretending to be a war hero who saves children in the manga (yet?).
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by kinisking » Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:25 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
Noah wrote:So... Frost being evil is "filler"?
No, he's evil. He's just not an evil real estate oriented space pirate pretending to be a war hero who saves children in the manga (yet?).
I would argue he is. The way he wanted to rush things just because there wasn't any prize money definitely shows he's money oriented.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by VegettoEX » Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:32 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:I know people like to ignore quite a lot of evidence on this website and make things up in their heads.
Considering the fact that at this point people are having a discussion based on Korean scanlations, and I'm going to take a wild guess that unlike TheDevilsCorpse you can't actually read the text, perhaps you should refrain from making these types of "contributions" to the discussion.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:05 pm

You can argue he is, but all the chapter really gives us is Frost dropping his good guy act when he comments that the referee should be glad he wasn't killed and that Frost wanted to rush the fights because there were no prizes. Could that be an abridged hint at his anime backstory and personality? Yeah, but as previously acknowledged, there is a severe lack of actual details. Whether or not this was cut by Toyotaro for pacing or because the anime expanded on Toriyama's notes, we don't know. But all it actually means is that there's not enough to draw a complete parallel right now.

Not saying this is the case, but with the information provided, this Frost could just be a selfish prick and not a space pirate. That he wouldn't have joined since there's no incentive for him, but it was his Universe's Hakaishin who asked and you don't risk your own destruction by turning them down.
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