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WOW!!! Sonny, eh?...*Thinks back to his memorable singing as Kuririn in Movie 8*...Sonny, huh? LOL.DB_Fan1991 wrote:I have some news regarding Dragon Soul for parts 5 & 6. http://www.toonzone.net/forums/showpost ... tcount=979
Maybe a woman will sing it. That would be kinda cool.The Time Traveller wrote:Something special? The entire cast singing? All 5 singers singing? Someone else singing? A woman perhaps? A singing dog?
YES! I totally called that one.ohaimynameiserik wrote:"He must die... by a saiyan's hand!!"
What the hell? That's STILL not accurate? Does Goku still respond with "show me what you've got!"? Freeza's supposed to basically be telling Goku that "If only I could hit you...!", then Goku replies with "Then hit me and see..." I guess you could REALLY stretch it out and say it's kind of accurate, but it's nowhere near as cool, and feels like it was made just to have some "cool" NickToons trailer lines. Goku's response doesn't even feel like a response to what Freeza says to him.ohaimynameiserik wrote:Just saw the "I am the super saiyan, Son Goku!!" bit. Freeza no longer says "stand still and give up", but rather "stand still and perish!!"
"Show me what youv'e got" is still used.Metalwario64 wrote:What the hell? That's STILL not accurate? Does Goku still respond with "show me what you've got!"? Freeza's supposed to basically be telling Goku that "If only I could hit you...!", then Goku replies with "Then hit me and see..." I guess you could REALLY stretch it out and say it's kind of accurate, but it's nowhere near as cool, and feels like it was made just to have some "cool" NickToons trailer lines. Goku's response doesn't even feel like a response to what Freeza says to him.ohaimynameiserik wrote:Just saw the "I am the super saiyan, Son Goku!!" bit. Freeza no longer says "stand still and give up", but rather "stand still and perish!!"
I assumed it was an edited line because they didn't want kids telling people to hit them or something, but it turns out it is an edited line, just for Freeza to tell Goku to "stand still and perish"? I'm a bit disappointed between that, "Hope you're not afraid of heights", and the replacement of "YOU MEAN KRILLIN!!!?" with "YOU'LL PAY FOR THAT!!!"...
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.
Well, "See you in hell." Doesn't mean you'll meet them there. It's more of, "You're going to hell, so if I ever see you again, I'll see you there" kind of thing.ohaimynameiserik wrote:On Nicktoons, it was something like "SAY GOODBYE, FREEZA!!"
Just saw the DVD version... and it's "SEE YOU IN HELL, FREEZA!!"
While this is more accurate to the Japanese version, it still is kinda inaccurate. This implies that Goku knowingly knows that he will go to Hell, even though he died once already, and we learned he is guaranteed a place in Heaven.
"See you in Hell" is an expression. When you say it, it's not actually meant that you will see them in Hell, and it works much the same as "Go to Hell". At least, it's not always meant to be that way. It can, but in this case, it's definitely just meant the same way as "Go to Hell".ohaimynameiserik wrote:"Show me what youv'e got" is still used.Metalwario64 wrote:What the hell? That's STILL not accurate? Does Goku still respond with "show me what you've got!"? Freeza's supposed to basically be telling Goku that "If only I could hit you...!", then Goku replies with "Then hit me and see..." I guess you could REALLY stretch it out and say it's kind of accurate, but it's nowhere near as cool, and feels like it was made just to have some "cool" NickToons trailer lines. Goku's response doesn't even feel like a response to what Freeza says to him.ohaimynameiserik wrote:Just saw the "I am the super saiyan, Son Goku!!" bit. Freeza no longer says "stand still and give up", but rather "stand still and perish!!"
I assumed it was an edited line because they didn't want kids telling people to hit them or something, but it turns out it is an edited line, just for Freeza to tell Goku to "stand still and perish"? I'm a bit disappointed between that, "Hope you're not afraid of heights", and the replacement of "YOU MEAN KRILLIN!!!?" with "YOU'LL PAY FOR THAT!!!"...
For every one dialog edit that doesn't do too much for accuracy, there's about 50 others that do. It's hard to get upset over it when you're watching a full uncut episode.
One in particular did bother me, though. I believe right before Goku fires a Kamehame-Ha at Freeza, the original line is "GO TO HELL, FREEZA!!"
On Nicktoons, it was something like "SAY GOODBYE, FREEZA!!"
Just saw the DVD version... and it's "SEE YOU IN HELL, FREEZA!!"
While this is more accurate to the Japanese version, it still is kinda inaccurate. This implies that Goku knowingly knows that he will go to Hell, even though he died once already, and we learned he is guaranteed a place in Heaven.
I'd like to have a comparison.Nicktoons Edited Z Kai Vegeta wrote:No! Don't tell me you're still preaching that mercy nonsense. That means you're still holding back and you're not really a Super Saiyan. Not yet. The only way you can beat him is if you harden your heart, you fool. You have to put aside your mercy. Then you might, MIGHT, actually stand a chance. You could truly become a Super Saiyan... Please Kakarot, you have to listen to me. I need you to know what happened to Planet Vegeta, where we were born. It's gone; destroyed, that's true. But not because it collided with a meteor. It was Freeza. Freeza did it. After we Saiyans served him faithfully, [*tears*] and blindly followed his every last order he betrayed us. He disposed of us like common trash. He wiped us out from existence so that now we [Goku and Veteta] are all that remain. They're all gone. Your parents. My father, the king. We Saiyans were growing in strength and numbers and Freeza feared that soon a Super Saiyan would be born among us. It terrified him. [*crying*] I'm begging you. Please. Beat him. For me. For the pride of our race. You must defeat him. Please. A Saiyan must be the one to stop him. [*dies*]
Vegeta: K-kakarot...
Goku: Huh?
Vegeta: Don't be so soft! There's no stinking honor in any of this! It's just a game, played to win, with no rules!
(Vegeta flashes back to the past, then it comes back to the present)
Vegeta: You're going to have to get over your soft-heartedness! Do it! Forget about your feelings! They'll get you killed! They'll get you killed, Kakarot!
Goku: I can't! I can't change who I am. Not on the battlefield. My feelings are my guide. Besides, everyone deserves a chance to change their ways, just like you had.
Vegeta: Fool, you don't know what you're dealing with.
(Vegeta flashes back to the past, then it comes back to the present)
Goku (speaking a line that wasn't there in the original): Save your strength, Vegeta.
Vegeta: No, there's more. He killed our home planet. It... was him.
Freeza: He's just a corpse and he's still blabbing. I'll have to gag him to shut him up.
Vegeta: Your father... and mine... the whole planet. He blew it up! It's true. No one survived... but us. Ask him if you want. He'll tell you, he's... proud of it!
Goku: Please, stop talking, Vegeta! It's sapping all your strength!
Vegeta: No... listen! You have to hear this! We worked so hard for him. We did everything he asked of us and more. He took me... from my father... when I was just a little boy! He made me do whatever he wanted, and said he'd kill my father if I didn't! I did everything he asked, but he killed him anyway... along with everyone else. He was scared of us. Scared that a Super Saiyan would be born someday... and rise up to overthrow him.
Freeza: Ah, a touching story.
Goku: Please... no more. Save your strength.
(Goku notices that Vegeta has been crying.)
Vegeta: Kakarot. Please... destroy... Freeza. He made me what I am. Don't... let him... do it... to anyone else. Whatever it takes... stop him. Please!
Vegeta: K-kakarot...
Goku: Vegeta!
Vegeta: Are you... still reciting that soft crap? Are you not a Super Saiyan?!
(Vegeta flashes back to the past, then it comes back to the present)
Vegeta: You foolish scum! Get cold-hearted! If you had only discarded your leniency, you would surely already be... a Super Saiyan!
Goku: I just don't see how I could act as cold-hearted as you do. And as for this Super Saiyan business, I don't know what you mean.
Vegeta: A Super Saiyan is...
(Vegeta flashes back to the past, then it comes back to the present)
Vegeta: Listen well, Kakarot...
Freeza: And here I've pierced his heart. What nerve. Are you going to keep talking?
Vegeta: Your.... our planet of birth, Planet Vegeta... was not destroyed... in a collision with a giant meteor...
Goku: Don't say any more! You're just hastening your death!
Vegeta: Freeza did it! This after we Saiyans... served as his hands and feet... working as he ordered...! Everyone besides us was killed...! Your father... and my father, the king, as well...! Freeza... was afraid that as the Saiyans gathered strength... a Super Saiyan would be born among us...
Freeza: Just listen to you.
Goku: Vegeta!
(Goku notices that Vegeta has been crying.)
Vegeta: I-I beg you! Freeza... defeat Freeza! Please... by your Saiyan hand...
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.
Differences in bold. Only 2 real changes, but there you go.Innagadadavida wrote:DVD Uncut Z Kai Vegeta wrote:No! Don't tell me you're still preaching that mercy nonsense. That means you're still holding back and you're not really a Super Saiyan. Damn it! The only way you can beat him is if you harden your heart, you fool. You have to put aside your mercy. Then you might, MIGHT, actually stand a chance. You could truly become a Super Saiyan... Please Kakarot, you have to listen to me. I need you to know what happened to Planet Vegeta, where we were born. It's gone; destroyed, that's true. But not because it collided with a meteor. It was Freeza. Freeza did it. After we Saiyans served him faithfully, [*tears*] and blindly followed his every last order he betrayed us. He disposed of us like common trash. He wiped us out from existence so that now we [Goku and Veteta] are all that remain. They're all gone. Your parents. My father, the king. We Saiyans were growing in strength and numbers and Freeza feared that soon a Super Saiyan would be born among us. It terrified him. [*crying*] I'm begging you. Please. Beat him. For me. For the pride of our race. You must defeat him. Please. He must die... by a saiyan's hand! [*dies*]
The voice acting is not the problem most people have, it's fine. Most people, who do have trouble with the performance, have trouble with the voice.Jackal puFF wrote:Yeah, when I heard Goku say that hell thing, I was like what?..You know you're a good guy right? lol
I also finally heard Eric Vales Trunks.. WOW, he takes the cake for bad voice actors. Give him some auto tune!
I don't know why he didn't talk like he did in the season sets..
Be more specific, please.Mewzard wrote:And what lines were changed in the uncut version?
Sorry, I was referring to something else, and didn't notice the bolding. But, while I do have your attention, did any of Freeza's lines seem all that different? I remember a few lines sounding like edits, different ways to say someone was killed. But, I can't recall any specific examples, sorry.ohaimynameiserik wrote:Be more specific, please.Mewzard wrote:And what lines were changed in the uncut version?
