Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:19 am

GogesusSSG wrote:My main concern with Gohan's design is what happened to his muscle mass? rather than his attire, hair and glasses.
Gohan's body type changes all the time. For example, compare him at Orange Star High School to when he fought Dabura, and then to when he was training with Old Kai:
My head canon explanation for stuff like this is that the highest god of the dragon ball universe is Tori-Bot, and everything is dependent on his imagination and memory, so if he forgets how something is supposed to be or changes his mind about it, it just changes without explanation. :)

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Post by JulieYBM » Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:32 am

Characters look however a key animator and animation feel they need to look to convey whatever idea they wish to place into that specific shot. Do not expect consistency.
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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:41 am

JulieYBM wrote:Characters look however a key animator and animation feel they need to look to convey whatever idea they wish to place into that specific shot. Do not expect consistency.
It's in the manga too, and is especially noticeable with Gohan post Cell. I'm surprised people are just noticing it now with this new movie.

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Post by TKA » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:06 am

Not a fan of Toriyama's new "big head, tiny limbs" artstyle, myself.

Not a fan.

If Gohan's suddenly so trim, they better acknowledge it in the movie and give a reason.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:12 am

TKA wrote:Not a fan of Toriyama's new "big head, tiny limbs" artstyle, myself.

Not a fan.

If Gohan's suddenly so trim, they better acknowledge it in the movie and give a reason.
He's always been skinny, outside of combat. It matches his official weight, too.
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Post by EmmaWinters » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:27 am

TKA wrote:Not a fan of Toriyama's new "big head, tiny limbs" artstyle, myself. Not a fan. If Gohan's suddenly so trim, they better acknowledge it in the movie and give a reason.
This is nothing new; Toriyama's art style has been like this for years.
Gohan was just as thin when drawn for Battle of Gods.

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Post by Chuquita » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:31 am

Looking at those again for comparison, the F Gohan drawing looks like he took more time with it than the BOG ones. No accidental wide-face here. :3
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Post by Black Hawk » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:50 am

I really love Son Gohan's new design, but I can't help but see Ittetsu Takeda from the Haikyū!! series whenever I look at him. I blame my brother for talking about it all the time. Gohan's and Takeda's personalities are extremely similar, but Takeda is really frail and weak.
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Post by jollyr » Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:02 am

http://www.shonengamez.com/wp-content/u ... LOQRX1.jpg

Does anyone else think this may be ROF Frieza??

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Post by EmmaWinters » Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:04 am

All of that is Xenoverse-related.
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Post by Black Hawk » Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:05 am

jollyr wrote:http://www.shonengamez.com/wp-content/u ... LOQRX1.jpg

Does anyone else think this may be ROF Freeza??
Since it's from a game unrelated to the movie, as well as power obtained through Tōwa's messing with time, I'd say definitely not.
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Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:18 am

Black Hawk wrote:I really love Son Gohan's new design, but I can't help but see Ittetsu Takeda from the Haikyū!! series whenever I look at him. I blame my brother for talking about it all the time. Gohan's and Takeda's personalities are extremely similar, but Takeda is really frail and weak.
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Post by jollyr » Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:33 am

The xenoverse image makes a specific point about Frieza being stronger than he was in the regular series and hes the only villain who has a transformation. Cell and Buu aren't even mentioned on that poster. I think its weird

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Post by Black Hawk » Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:39 am

jollyr wrote:The xenoverse image makes a specific point about Freeza being stronger than he was in the regular series and hes the only villain who has a transformation. Cell and Buu aren't even mentioned on that poster. I think its weird
True, they aren't mentioned, but they do still appear next to Freeza, and are shown to be under the same dark influence as he is. Freeza's physical appearance also seems to be nothing more than his 100% Power state to me, aside from his eyes.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:41 am

Xenoverse is a retread of Dragon Ball Online, and this is the same thing that happened to many characters in that game's story (possession, red eyes, power increase). It's nothing new or special, and has nothing to do with Revival of F.
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Post by Chuquita » Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:42 am

I guess another reason "The Great Saiyaman" may be retired this time around is he already fought and defeated Freeza in Movie 12.

Actually, that entire mini-chunk of Movie 12 could easily be an abridged version of F. XD
Freeza is revived and does sick a huge number of minions on Gohan after all.


I think these Gohan drawings really are it for this month's issue; but luckily Jump Festa (and hopefully big plot info) is only 3 days away. :3
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Post by Black Hawk » Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:49 am

Chuquita wrote:I guess another reason "The Great Saiyaman" may be retired this time around is he already fought and defeated Freeza in Movie 12.

Actually, that entire mini-chunk of Movie 12 could easily be an abridged version of F. XD
Freeza is revived and does sick a huge number of minions on Gohan after all.


I think these Gohan drawings really are it for this month's issue; but luckily Jump Festa (and hopefully big plot info) is only 3 days away. :3
Any specific speculations or hopes on what we might see from Jump Festa?

And it's (hopefully) only a matter of time until TFS does exactly that. XD
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Post by Black Hawk » Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:11 am

Is it just me or does Son Gohan's new hairdo resemble Videl's a fair bit (more-so in Yamamoto's art than in Toriyama-sensei's)?

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Post by Chuquita » Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:14 am

I am now picturing Videl with Gohan's old haircut to match him having hers.
They swapped hairstyles because why not. XD
There was a bet involved.
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Chuquita wrote:I guess another reason "The Great Saiyaman" may be retired this time around is he already fought and defeated Freeza in Movie 12.

Actually, that entire mini-chunk of Movie 12 could easily be an abridged version of F. XD
Freeza is revived and does sick a huge number of minions on Gohan after all.


I think these Gohan drawings really are it for this month's issue; but luckily Jump Festa (and hopefully big plot info) is only 3 days away. :3
Any specific speculations or hopes on what we might see from Jump Festa?

And it's (hopefully) only a matter of time until TFS does exactly that. XD
I know what we got at the 2013 Jump Festa for BOG was really nice:
Chuquita edited down parts of an old Jump Festa journal entry and wrote:-finalized WCF tie-in figures (minus ssjg Gokû because spoilers)
The following plot info:
---that the mysterious planet is Beerus and Whis' home
---Beerus' sleeping habits
---their home has lots of fish to eat
---Beerus is a "gourmet"/picky about what he destroys
---Beerus has a playful side to his personality
---things that were never used in the final film like after Beerus destroys a planet, Whis creates a new one
---Gokû and Vegeta skipped Bulma's birthday party because they were training (this was really vague at the time; I recall imagining they skipped out together when in fact they were independent choices. In Gokû's case, he simply forgot the party was that day)
---the editor and chief at Toei said they're keeping all info about Whis a secret atm
---Toriyama's motivations for getting involved in BOG were due to his dissatisfaction at DBE years back
---Toriyama, Watanabe, and others reworked BOG's script many times
---the location featured on BOG's poster being Bulma's birthday party
---Toriyama worked very hard on the script
---new trailer shown at the panel
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Post by Black Hawk » Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:23 am

THE EXCITEMENT FOR JUMP FESTA IS VERY REAL NOW. :thumbup:
Chuquita wrote:I am now picturing Videl with Gohan's old haircut to match him having hers.
They swapped hairstyles because why not. XD
There was a bet involved.
A bet that involved Gohan failing to handle little Pan diaper duty by himself. XD
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