Hmm special attack? Do you know of any attacks Tien has used before that reveal hidden people? Maybe its not new maybe its the solar flare. But the safe bet is that its new.
Dont know why you feel the need diminish him in ROF. What you want him to do fight Freeza? Him and Piccolo were the best outside of Gohan.
You can ignore a DBS writer as if he doesnt know what hes talking about. You can say whoever wrote 89 didnt know what they were doing if thats how you want to look at it. You could also ignore the fact that Roshi hasnt displayed any of those powers since. Flight,flamed on ki,durability, increased stamina( as he was able to hold his buff form through out. Roshi was tired after using the flash attack on Preecho, he showed no such fatigue when he used it at 100% against Tien. And if he was at base Gokus level he wouldnt be hiding and using such attacks like the mafuba. He would actually throw some blows.) You could also ignore Toyotaro works closer with Akira than anyone else. Ignore all that. It doesnt make you right or having a good point.
And to bring up the achievements of someone eliminated by the time 106 comes around would be 7 episodes ago and compare them to people still competing is ridiculous. I see a lot of people repeating the same thing Krillin did this. As it some how is a negative to people still in the tournament. Roshi will surpass Krillin in episode 105, Piccolo will get there and so will Tien.
You mean the same previews that talked about 'light bullets' last episode? These previews have been wrong so many times that I'm shocked people still take them at face value.
He didn't do anything that standout in Resurrection 'F' compared to everyone else. He had some cool moments, but so did everyone else, and I thought Jaco looked cooler since he couldn't fly and had only a gun, yet kicked as much butt as the ki user. If he wanted to impressed, he can fight an elite mook like Piccolo did instead of fodder.
He didn't write the episode and this is the same writer that said that Goku probably couldn't destroy the universe despite him nearly doing it in Battle of Gods. So unless you directly asked the person who wrote Episode 89 if Roshi was enchanted, that writer's word doesn't mean anything. The episode said that Roshi wasn't enhanced, it was his own strength and he got stronger. Nothing about him being enhanced. You can deny it until you're blue in the face, but those are the facts given to us in that episode. Roshi beat Tien with his own power. Preecho was probably stronger than Tien to boot since he withstand the attack while Tien got knocked on his butt.
And do you seriously believe Goku was going all out on Roshi in his base form. If you believe that, especially when the episode never made such a claim, there's nothing to say.
Yeah, Tien is still around and got less knockouts than a person who has been eliminated. Those are the facts as they stand. The rest is your assumption, which is fine, but don't pretend they're facts.
Don't quote me on this, but "light bullet" was the move Dyspo used when going thousands of times faster than light in an instant.
That's not what Dyspo speed boost is called at all
Beside he's ftl normally just push that into a far higher degree
HeroR wrote:
You mean the same previews that talked about 'light bullets' last episode? These previews have been wrong so many times that I'm shocked people still take them at face value.
He didn't do anything that standout in Resurrection 'F' compared to everyone else. He had some cool moments, but so did everyone else, and I thought Jaco looked cooler since he couldn't fly and had only a gun, yet kicked as much butt as the ki user. If he wanted to impressed, he can fight an elite mook like Piccolo did instead of fodder.
He didn't write the episode and this is the same writer that said that Goku probably couldn't destroy the universe despite him nearly doing it in Battle of Gods. So unless you directly asked the person who wrote Episode 89 if Roshi was enchanted, that writer's word doesn't mean anything. The episode said that Roshi wasn't enhanced, it was his own strength and he got stronger. Nothing about him being enhanced. You can deny it until you're blue in the face, but those are the facts given to us in that episode. Roshi beat Tien with his own power. Preecho was probably stronger than Tien to boot since he withstand the attack while Tien got knocked on his butt.
And do you seriously believe Goku was going all out on Roshi in his base form. If you believe that, especially when the episode never made such a claim, there's nothing to say.
Yeah, Tien is still around and got less knockouts than a person who has been eliminated. Those are the facts as they stand. The rest is your assumption, which is fine, but don't pretend they're facts.
Don't quote me on this, but "light bullet" was the move Dyspo used when going thousands of times faster than light in an instant.
That's not what Dyspo speed boost is called at all
Beside he's ftl normally just push that into a far higher degree
RedHeat wrote:
Don't quote me on this, but "light bullet" was the move Dyspo used when going thousands of times faster than light in an instant.
That's not what Dyspo speed boost is called at all
Beside he's ftl normally just push that into a far higher degree
Then what's it called?
Going really fast.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
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HeroR wrote:The characters in Super can work with Goku and they're treated like equals to him. Goku just being in the room doesn't take away from the character. In Z, the characters were so depended on Goku that they couldn't go an episode without mentioning him in some way even by hoping he will arrived, get better, training to get stronger, our last hope, being like him, ect. Goku was wanked to hell in Z, even when he wasn't in the room and everyone else was secondary to him. In fact, this was a major issue Goku had, which is why he didn't want to do anything in the Buu Saga.
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FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
Jaetinh wrote:I hope it'll be an anime adaption of the Yamcha side story manga. Toru Furuya's Twitter statement about his voice acting for Yamcha is still on my mind. I hope to get some clarification soon.
If they do I hope they expand on what Yamcha did during Namek. I personally dont want it becausr I thought the Yamcha manga was disappointing.
It was very disappointing. So many things were rushed due to not having enough chapters to cover everything in detail and Yamcha was yet again just treated as a joke sadly.
I would like a special about Yamcha, Goten, and Trunks defending Earth from some villain, (With at least a Namek arc Frieza power level) but they probably wouldn't do a special without Goku. I mean there were some in the past with very little Goku, but modern DB I can't see doing that.
Yeah that's what I want too. And surely the villain would be stronger than Namek Frieza if Gotenks is going to struggle with him. I just hope if it happens it's not just them vs. Poachers because that would be lame.
Episode #133 will either air on 11 March, 18 March, or 25 March 2018 depending on how many more breaks we get. My guess is that a new series will begin in April. I'm not sure if they means it will be a new Dragon Ball series or not, though.
JulieYBM wrote:Episode #133 will either air on 11 March, 18 March, or 25 March 2018 depending on how many more breaks we get. My guess is that a new series will begin in April. I'm not sure if they means it will be a new Dragon Ball series or not, though.
That 133 could easily be wrong or they are changing to 13 episodes and wouldn't they say this is the last arc of Dragon ball Super?
JulieYBM wrote:Episode #133 will either air on 11 March, 18 March, or 25 March 2018 depending on how many more breaks we get. My guess is that a new series will begin in April. I'm not sure if they means it will be a new Dragon Ball series or not, though.
If Super ends on 133 it will be replaced by another Dragon Ball series due to how much money it's making. The only way I see it ending on 133 and not being immediately followed up by another DB series is if they put a one or two cour show in that place to give the sequel more time in production, but that seems highly unlikely given the fact that Dragon Ball has become Toei's #1 money maker and Bandai expects it to become their #1, passing Gundam.
namekiansaiyan wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:Episode #133 will either air on 11 March, 18 March, or 25 March 2018 depending on how many more breaks we get. My guess is that a new series will begin in April. I'm not sure if they means it will be a new Dragon Ball series or not, though.
That 133 could easily be wrong or they are changing to 13 episodes and wouldn't they say this is the last arc of Dragon ball Super?
Not if they plan to debut a new Dragon Ball series the week after Super ends.
Wow, didn't consider the month it would air. April is generally when a new season starts, so if it were ending it would make sense for it to be then. Now I said that it seems unlikely given we still have 4 more universes left, but then again, they might also choose to leave that for future movie projects. Or, should the TOP really end in November, then the remaining episodes might be the serie's final stretch which will somehow include those 4 universes. They have this whole "The work of the gods ends here" thing, which kinda sounds climatic if you ask me. As for proper advertising that this would be the last arc, it's not unheard of for a series ending to be unexpected. IIrc, it happened to the Bleach anime in 2012. Even DBS came out of nowhere.
Did people forget about toshio's tweet in which he said that he was still writig letters after top.I will find the link and post it and even if it does end it will be immediately followed by another series.
Why power levels are important?
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Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Did people forget about toshio's tweet in which he said that he was still writing episodes after top.I will find the link and post it and even if it does end it will be immediately followed by another series.
Why power levels are important?
Spoiler:
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
ArchedThunder wrote:Again, Dragon Ball is making an assload of money right now, IF Super ends on 133 it's just going to be followed up by a sequel immediately.
Oh, I'm still not convinced it's ending, but some things do add up in favor of that possibility. It'd be neat if they chose to do another series and the reason they chose to change titles was because they intend to switch gears a little. Like DB to DBZ. The money argument is solid, buuuut if Toriyama decided enough is enough, there's nothing left to tell, then they have no choice. Well, it's all just pointless speculation for now. No reason to get alarmed just yet.
ArchedThunder wrote:Again, Dragon Ball is making an assload of money right now, IF Super ends on 133 it's just going to be followed up by a sequel immediately.
I wouldn't say immediately , a new series would air again around this time next year. They'll have time to prep unlike what happened in the beginning of Super.
I'm really hoping for some Caulifla figurines soon. She and Kale have already been added in Dokkan Battle and have been rumored to be upcoming characters in FightersZ.
mfwlegend3 wrote:I'm really hoping for some Caulifla figurines soon. She and Kale have already been added in Dokkan Battle and have been rumored to be upcoming characters in FightersZ.
Don't count on it, most of figures for the year have already been revealed at best she'd get some end of 2017/early 2018 even then they'd most likely be small gashapon's or mini WCFs.
I'm surprised Dragon Ball even comes close to gundams when it comes to sales, I'm a huge DB fan and not really that much of a gundam guy (tho I watch them) but I collect gundams more than DB models.
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