"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by SansrivaaL » Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:29 am

namekiansaiyan wrote:
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Jiren does not seem that interested so why would he take out a lot.
Uhm.. unless he's suicidal and stupid that he hasnt noticed there's only 3 of them left and U7 and 6 has about 8+ of them left, then I think he should be more than interested now than he was from the start.
Why didn't they start in episode 105 or 106. They are not going to take out 30 fighters. THAT IS RIDICULOUS!
Because they're just about to? if you havent noticed every ep has been moving pretty slow in universe, that or giving our cast their screentime before going down, they didnt exactly just brought the older characters up just to have them not get a good showing before going down.

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:36 am

Draconic wrote:The fight with Jiren and the reveal of the new form can be intercalated with other fights. We are staging the climax of a Battle Royale, not an ordinary tournament. I still think there will be fighters in the ring during this fight. Goku is taking on Jiren, but it doesn't mean Vegeta isn't gonna get a fight with Hit/Toppo, or Piccolo meeting the Namekians or the U4 bugs revealing themselves. Sure, the main attraction will be Goku vs Jiren, but to reduce the scope of the climax of universes battling eachother to a one-v-one isn't gonna happen, at least so soon.

Kale, Brianne, Toppo, Hit, Freeza and Gohan will all, at the very least, remain in the ring during the final fight. Pretty much any match-up between those guys is third act material.
Why are they last act material? If Goku and Jiren starts the climax then there will be a lot of fights in the last part probably.

I still think Goku vs Jiren will be that 1 hour special with a surprise happening at the end that probably knocks both of them out.
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SansrivaaL wrote: Uhm.. unless he's suicidal and stupid that he hasnt noticed there's only 3 of them left and U7 and 6 has about 8+ of them left, then I think he should be more than interested now than he was from the start.
Why didn't they start in episode 105 or 106. They are not going to take out 30 fighters. THAT IS RIDICULOUS!
Because they're just about to? if you havent noticed every ep has been moving pretty slow in universe, that or giving our cast their screentime before going down, they didnt exactly just brought the older characters up just to have them not get a good showing before going down.
Only Krillin and Roshi are really the only 2 who have had their moments.
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Post by GodVegetto91 » Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:44 am

Since it's a 1 hour special (kinda like a movie) does this mean the animation will be much better as usual within the show?

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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:51 am

Since the TV special will mark the beginning of the climax of the Tournament Of Power, I am very intrigued to see who Goku first uses his new form on. I mean, the obvious answer would seem to be Jiren with the all build up that match-up has gotten, but I have a feeling that Goku will use his new form on Toppo first since Goku did initially mention to him first about going past his limits when they fought in the Zen Exhibition Matches.

I am bit worried that in just five episodes we're already going to be in the home stretch of this whole arc. Meaning that a lot of characters are going to get eliminated fast in the next month. Or hopefully, we'll see more tag team battles. I just hope the final battle is wonderful spectacle, like Episode 66.

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Post by SansrivaaL » Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:54 am

namekiansaiyan wrote: Only Krillin and Roshi are really the only 2 who have had their moments.
17 and 18 also had their screentime, and we have a few more eps before the big showdown between Goku and Jiren, I'm sure the others will get their screentime before that happens. Only Piccolo,Tien and Gohan are left, but to be honest Piccolo and Gohan kinda already had their screentime tho not so good compared to 17,18,Roshi and Krillin's but still good enough, Piccolo had his time back in U6 arc when he fought Frost so he wasnt that off the screen when it comes to fighting compared to Krillin,Roshi,17 and 18, while Gohan also had his time in the Zen matches.

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Post by HeroR » Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:55 am

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Any hype that any character had would just be gone in a second then and you are assuming everyone is not important unless they are Goku and Jiren

In universe we don't even though about a tuffle

Jiren is Goku's big fight and does not mean it is the last the fight and that opening could easily change.
There maybe little fights here and there, but the main attraction will be Goku vs. Jiren. One Piece does this all the time when they have Luffy have the climatic fight, while his crew does something else.

Yes, but this Tuffle has gotten no highlight and most casual wouldn't know about him unless they check certain websites. So, there's no hype.

It is the last big fight. If they have anything afterwards, it will be like Monaka vs. Hit. Yes, that was the final fight of the Champa Saga, but the climax was Goku vs. Hit.
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Post by namekiansaiyan » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:10 am

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namekiansaiyan wrote: Only Krillin and Roshi are really the only 2 who have had their moments.
17 and 18 also had their screentime, and we have a few more eps before the big showdown between Goku and Jiren, I'm sure the others will get their screentime before that happens. Only Piccolo,Tien and Gohan are left, but to be honest Piccolo and Gohan kinda already had their screentime tho not so good compared to 17,18,Roshi and Krillin's but still good enough, Piccolo had his time back in U6 arc when he fought Frost so he wasnt that off the screen when it comes to fighting compared to Krillin,Roshi,17 and 18, while Gohan also had his time in the Zen matches.
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Any hype that any character had would just be gone in a second then and you are assuming everyone is not important unless they are Goku and Jiren

In universe we don't even though about a tuffle

Jiren is Goku's big fight and does not mean it is the last the fight and that opening could easily change.
There maybe little fights here and there, but the main attraction will be Goku vs. Jiren. One Piece does this all the time when they have Luffy have the climatic fight, while his crew does something else.

Yes, but this Tuffle has gotten no highlight and most casual wouldn't know about him unless they check certain websites. So, there's no hype.

It is the last big fight. If they have anything afterwards, it will be like Monaka vs. Hit. Yes, that was the final fight of the Champa Saga, but the climax was Goku vs. Hit.
This is Dragon Ball not One Piece.

All these characters are not here to just show how strong Jiren

There has been hardly any big tense fights at all and they are not just going to throw all other potential big fights away.

How do you think 107 and 108 are going to go ? If they go the way you said before we will have a knockout every minute in them 2 episodes.

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Post by SansrivaaL » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:20 am

namekiansaiyan wrote: This is Dragon Ball not One Piece.

All these characters are not here to just show how strong Jiren

There has been hardly any big tense fights at all and they are not just going to throw all other potential big fights away.

How do you think 107 and 108 are going to go ? If they go the way you said before we will have a knockout every minute in them 2 episodes.
Yeah like they didnt hype Freeza when Gohan,Krillin,Vegeta and Piccolo who got stronger werent there for hype material?

And all those characters arent there to just please the fans and have them in the ring till the end, like it or not majority of them will fall.

Exactly, no tense fights because there's still 9 members of U7 still there, while the supposed powerful guys U11 are down to 3, dont tell me that doesnt look fishy for you?

Not exactly, we have a 1hr special, I wouldnt be surprised if Jiren takes out 10-20 characters in the span of 20mints.

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:33 am

SansrivaaL wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote: This is Dragon Ball not One Piece.

All these characters are not here to just show how strong Jiren

There has been hardly any big tense fights at all and they are not just going to throw all other potential big fights away.

How do you think 107 and 108 are going to go ? If they go the way you said before we will have a knockout every minute in them 2 episodes.
Yeah like they didnt hype Freeza when Gohan,Krillin,Vegeta and Piccolo who got stronger werent there for hype material?

And all those characters arent there to just please the fans and have them in the ring till the end, like it or not majority of them will fall.

Exactly, no tense fights because there's still 9 members of U7 still there, while the supposed powerful guys U11 are down to 3, dont tell me that doesnt look fishy for you?

Not exactly, we have a 1hr special, I wouldnt be surprised if Jiren takes out 10-20 characters in the span of 20mints.
They are there to play roles that include having important fights.

What would be the point of the 12 episodes before thes special as they do not help the story at all really.

You and HeroR are saying once episode 109 comes around Jiren is going to say bye to 30 fighters and then he fights Goku. The top 2 fighters do not have to fight each other at the end in a battle royale.

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Post by SansrivaaL » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:47 am

namekiansaiyan wrote: They are there to play roles that include having important fights.

What would be the point of the 12 episodes before thes special as they do not help the story at all really.

You and HeroR are saying once episode 109 comes around Jiren is going to say bye to 30 fighters and then he fights Goku. The top 2 fighters do not have to fight each other at the end in a battle royale.
Including the role of hyping up the big bad, half of them already had their moments of owning characters from other universes.

How exactly do you know that? a lot can happen in those eps.

Goku and Jiren's fight is literally called the climax, unless it has a new definition then I'm pretty sure that'll be the biggest fight in the arc, Jiren has little to no hype since he was introduced, U7 has 9 fighters left, U11 has 3 fighters left, Jiren from U11 is the big guy in this tournament, I cant believe youre not seeing this, and I'm not saying its the end fight, I'm saying its the climax, the BIG fight.

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Post by shadowmaria » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:53 am

GodVegetto91 wrote:Since it's a 1 hour special (kinda like a movie) does this mean the animation will be much better as usual within the show?
No

It's just two episodes back to back. There's nothing special about them except that. Just two standard episodes, airing back to back, on the same day

That is literally all

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:57 am

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namekiansaiyan wrote: They are there to play roles that include having important fights.

What would be the point of the 12 episodes before thes special as they do not help the story at all really.

You and HeroR are saying once episode 109 comes around Jiren is going to say bye to 30 fighters and then he fights Goku. The top 2 fighters do not have to fight each other at the end in a battle royale.
Including the role of hyping up the big bad, half of them already had their moments of owning characters from other universes.

How exactly do you know that? a lot can happen in those eps.

Goku and Jiren's fight is literally called the climax, unless it has a new definition then I'm pretty sure that'll be the biggest fight in the arc, Jiren has little to no hype since he was introduced, U7 has 9 fighters left, U11 has 3 fighters left, Jiren from U11 is the big guy in this tournament, I cant believe youre not seeing this, and I'm not saying its the end fight, I'm saying its the climax, the BIG fight.
'Starting in October, it at last reaches a turning point as Goku finally faces off with his strongest opponent, Jiren. From there on out it will truly be a continuous run from Goku and co.’s big battle to the climax'.

This is a comment by the producer and from it I get that it is a turning point in the tournament and that it will start to get serious with all the big fights starting and this will continue until the tournament ends.

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Post by Hawk9211 » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:00 am

I see four ways this will go:
1.Jiren and goku knock out each other(very slim chance)
2.Jiren knocks out everyone and faces goku(not happening)
3.Jiren and goku is set up and ends at transformation reveal(very little chance)
4.Jiren and goku start fighting while other characters face off each other(the most plausible one)
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Post by Lionel » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:08 am

I'm not all too enthused about Goku and Jiren's eventual battle with each other. It's just another layer stacked onto the already looming tower that is Goku's escapades in fighting the new juggernaut of the arc; very formulaic and uninspiring, I hate to say. If Tenshinhan or Piccolo were to seal Jiren away next episode and toss him out of bounds like Roshi did with Dercori last episode then I would be perfectly satisfied. Give me some Piccolo vs U6 Namekians or Hit battling whomever any day. Freeza vs Toppo also sounds like a possible fight scenario brought up that would sound interesting, given the two fighters' mutually disparate ethical loyalties.

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:12 am

Lionel wrote:I'm not all too enthused about Goku and Jiren's eventual battle with each other. It's just another layer stacked onto the already looming tower that is Goku's escapades in fighting the new juggernaut of the arc; very formulaic and uninspiring, I hate to say. If Tenshinhan or Piccolo were to seal Jiren away next episode and toss him out of bounds like Roshi did with Dercori last episode then I would be perfectly satisfied. Give me some Piccolo vs U6 Namekians or Hit battling whomever any day. Freeza vs Toppo also sounds like a possible fight scenario brought up that would sound interesting, given the two fighters' mutually disparate ethical loyalties.
Patience, these 2 fights will probably happen but we will probably enjoy the fights the longer we wait.
Hawk9211 wrote:I see four ways this will go:
1.Jiren and goku knock out each other(very slim chance)
2.Jiren knocks out everyone and faces goku(not happening)
3.Jiren and goku is set up and ends at transformation reveal(very little chance)
4.Jiren and goku start fighting while other characters face off each other(the most plausible one)
I predict the fight will be over by the end of the 2 episodes with a very surprising outcome.

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Post by Bullza » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:16 am

So can someone explain to me what this one hour special actually is?

Is it an actual hour long or about 45 minutes with 15 minutes of adverts?

It's not a completely separate story but it's part of this Tournament of Power?

Is it essentially just a double episode?

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Post by Xeogran » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:21 am

Yes, a Double Episode. Like these we used to get in Naruto here and there.

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:35 am

Bullza wrote:So can someone explain to me what this one hour special actually is?

Is it an actual hour long or about 45 minutes with 15 minutes of adverts?

It's not a completely separate story but it's part of this Tournament of Power?

Is it essentially just a double episode?
It is just 2 episodes of the current arc.

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Post by emperior » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:44 am

So it turns out the special is just 2 episodes of Super. I'm very glad because it means they are focusing on the ToP and not wasting resources on something they can always do some other time (a TV Special).
I don't think the two episodes will just be Goku vs Jiren. I hope it will be some crazy-animated fight with all the remaining fighters, with a focus on Goku vs Jiren.
There was an animator who hyped up the ToP saying many good animators will be in it and that Nagamine was giving good vibes, so maybe they decided to make the arc this slow, and to outsource most of the episodes, so that they could make some awesome episode at the end? Sort of like it was a movie. I have high hopes, I wish I'm right.
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Post by SansrivaaL » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:49 am

namekiansaiyan wrote: 'Starting in October, it at last reaches a turning point as Goku finally faces off with his strongest opponent, Jiren. From there on out it will truly be a continuous run from Goku and co.’s big battle to the climax'.

This is a comment by the producer and from it I get that it is a turning point in the tournament and that it will start to get serious with all the big fights starting and this will continue until the tournament ends.
https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/901958146826027008
Per the prdoucer, the DBS special will mark the start of the tournament's climax, as Goku starts to fight Jiren.
The start of the tournament's climax as Goku starts to fight Jiren.
"continuous run from Goku and co.’s big battle to the climax" Goku and co.'s big battle could mean all of them going for Jiren.

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