"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Noah]

I'm all for new material, silly scenarios out-of-universe with the characters isn't what I had in mind.

I would even be happy with stories unrelated to the plot, if the characters in it are the ones we know. Not Samurai Vegeta, President of the United States Piccolo or Go Master Goku.

My thoughts exactly. It's like the writters don't realize that the Dragon Ball Universe is huge, might even comparable with Star Wars, there are plenty of ideas they could use to make a good TV special.

So Goku's new form is basically going to debut in a double episode/hour long special? Hmm. So I guess the rumor of the arc in November may actually be true.

Now, that would be a good thing! I didn't saw anyone complaining yet about Goku would attaining a new form if he hadn't time to train before the ToP, this special might be useful to explain that. I'm all for it.


EDIT: Read the last remaining pages, so it's just Goku vs. Jiren in a double episode special? Well, that's good I guess.

I just don't understand why Goku and Vegeta have to steal the spotlight. With Vegeta, it's not as bad but give Goku a break man. This should be Tiens win if anything .

Exactly! Can't they just save Goku and Vegeta for the final act for f***'s sake? Let other characters shine, damn!

"On 10/7, get ready for a huge Dragon Ball Super one-hour special! More details to come soon!"
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https://twitter.com/FUNimation/status/9 ... 7327582208

What are they talking about? They're not even close to the Future Trunks arc, what this special is supposed to be?

[pacz360]

We know Jiren is strong already. What part of Toppo saying he has absolutely no chance at defeating Jiren after a serious fight not get?

Maybe he doesnt want to just eliminate everyone because he wants them to enjoy their last moments as warriors and he senses no threat.

Dragon Ball have never just hyped up characters with statements alone. Frieza was the most hyped villain in Dragon Ball, yet Toriyama still felt compelled to show why Freeze wasn't all hype by having him destroy anyone who wasn't Super Saiyan Goku and even then give the newborn Super Saiyan a decent fight fight.

The Saiyans were hyped for an entire year in-universe, and Toriyama showed us that it wasn't all talk by having having Nappa tear apart the Z-Fighters with no issues. This also served to hyped Vegeta who could boss around the person killing all the main characters.

Cell, each stage of his journey to his perfection had physical examples outside of 'Cell will be invincible if he becomes perfect'. First taking out Piccolo and 17 when he was just Imperfect, then Semi-Perfect Cell one-shotting 16 who was once his equal, and then Perfect Cell taking down Vegeta, a stronger Trunks, and even beating Goku while holding back.

Majin Buu, was hyped up as a god-killer who could wiped the universe. Toriyama showed him off by having him waste Dabura, Gohan, the Supreme Kai, and Majin Vegeta in that order.

Hit, while he little hype, Champa wasn't worried about losing since he still had Hit. Toriyama showed him off by having him beat Vegeta without getting hit and minimal effort.

Black, got some hype since he manhandled Future Trunks for over a year. Then when the heroes fight him seriously, he get a transformation and one-stabs Vegeta. He then takes out Goku and Trunks with his partner.

Zen'o said to erased anything and nothing is equal to him. Shows this off by having him wipe out an immortal god who fused with the multiverse.

The point of all of this, Toriyama never just used a character's or characters' statements to hype someone. There are always visual examples and it isn't just limited to 'they beat up the main character'. An example of this is Beerus. He two-shotted Super Saiyan 3 Goku, yet Toriyama still felt compelled to hype Beerus by having him take out the rest of the Z-Fighters including Gotenks, Gohan, and a rage boosted Vegeta.

Given that history, it stands to reason that once Jiren moves, someone or several people since this is a battle royal is going to get worf and it isn't just Goku.

Jiren has already been said to be much stronger than Toppo, he may be the human who surpasses a GoD, predicted the moves of the blocks in rebuilding the arena (before the start of the tournament), completely blinded Goku, caused a U2 warrior to give up To fight him with just one look, and defeated Kale with a Ki Blast.

I do not see why he has to defeat more than 30 warriors at once to be proved just how strong he is. Even though they are few feats, we know he is very strong.

It makes no sense for more than 30 warriors to fall in 3 episodes, before the special episode.
Ignoring the fact that Freeza did not have a real fight, Vegeta did not even come close to using his maximum power, Piccolo, Gohan, and Tenshinhan almost did not fight, Kyabe appeared quickly, as well as warriors from other Universes with great potential (such as the Yardrat Of U2)

It would be extremely disappointing if the tournament ended without seeing any of this, it would not make sense.

So I think the producer's speech also refers to the climax of the tournament, when the real battles will begin, and we will be able to see other fights while Goku and Jiren face each other

Same I hope they don't rush it

[Kanassa]

Why does Piccolo's hearing matter here? In a Battle Royal as big as this his hearing would most likely be a hindrance than an advantage.

[TheSaiyanGod]

I asked Furuya what his Yamcha tweet 3 months ago was about. He answered me today and it was for Dragon Ball Fighterz. Not for Dragon Ball Super or a special, but for the game. At least we now know he is in the game.

Is it about that tweet in which Furuya says he was having a hard day recording speeches for Yamcha or something? And that's why a lot of people thought Freeza's treachery (for U7) was true and Yamcha would come in his place for the tournament?

[The gr]

106 is gonna be awesome, snipers,have we seen one in db,can't wait to see some headshot & 360 no scopes ,harmira need to eliminate someone with a headshot or aiming at the vitals points

[Jaetinh]

I asked Furuya what his Yamcha tweet 3 months ago was about. He answered me today and it was for Dragon Ball Fighterz. Not for Dragon Ball Super or a special, but for the game. At least we now know he is in the game.

Is it about that tweet in which Furuya says he was having a hard day recording speeches for Yamcha or something? And that's why a lot of people thought Freeza's treachery (for U7) was true and Yamcha would come in his place for the tournament?

Exactly that.

[GodKaio-Ken]

Food for thought.


Honestly...only Goku says Jiren "Predicted" the blocks movement. Can we take him as accurate? He's guessing based on what it appeared like to him.

When I rewatched the scene it actually looks like he slightly shifts them somehow before being hit.

I'm not saying that is what happened, just questioning if we can even say his power is prediction or anticipation. When the only statement is by a character guessing.

[Kanassa]

Honestly...only Goku says Jiren "Predicted" the blocks movement. Can we take him as accurate? He's guessing based on what it appeared like to him.

Until Jiren shows us otherwise, we are meant to take Goku at his word. This is the narrative turning to the audience and explaining whats going on, dressed up as a character speculating, a common attribute placed in any story.

[TheSaiyanGod]

I asked Furuya what his Yamcha tweet 3 months ago was about. He answered me today and it was for Dragon Ball Fighterz. Not for Dragon Ball Super or a special, but for the game. At least we now know he is in the game.

Is it about that tweet in which Furuya says he was having a hard day recording speeches for Yamcha or something? And that's why a lot of people thought Freeza's treachery (for U7) was true and Yamcha would come in his place for the tournament?

Exactly that.

Do you have the link of the tweet?

[perucho1990]

106 is gonna be awesome, snipers,have we seen one in db,can't wait to see some headshot & 360 no scopes ,harmira need to eliminate someone with a headshot or aiming at the vitals points

We know that Dr Rota will job to Harmira and Prum, but not confirmed that he will be eliminated(seems similar to Kale when some people thought Jiren eliminated her).

[GodKaio-Ken]

Honestly...only Goku says Jiren "Predicted" the blocks movement. Can we take him as accurate? He's guessing based on what it appeared like to him.

Until Jiren shows us otherwise, we are meant to take Goku at his word. This is the narrative turning to the audience and explaining whats going on, dressed up as a character speculating, a common attribute placed in any story.

How do you determine when its narrative and just character speculation? Both happen in stories a lot. Obviously thats why I say its just a random thought though.

[MainJPW]

*snip*

Harmura and Prum forced Piccolo and Gohan to hide behind rocks.

Are there any distinct physical effects those laser projectiles have? If their potency is only the same as a generic thin stripped Ki attack like the Death Beam then I fail to see why Gohan or Piccolo would feel the need to duck and cover unless they're being extra cautious. If they can't out-muscle the attacks then getting out of the line of fire by burrowing underground and emerging somewhere else might not be a bad proposal.

That's a really good question, if these were really just generic ki attacks Gohan should have no trouble stopping the projectiles or out right overpowering them similarly to what he did with Jium here:




All the more reason to wait for the episode to see if we get an explanation for said beams. Not all energy based attacks are created equal.

[The gr]

We know that Dr Rota will job of Harmira and Prum, but not confirmed that he will be eliminated(seems similar to Kale when some people thought Jiren eliminated her).

Don't see the point of having him in the ring unless he heals caulifla & kale,having their power boosted because their nature,look like the logical way of caulifla having ss3

[perucho1990]

Don't see the point of having him in the ring unless he heals caulifla & kale,having their power boosted because their nature,look like the logical way of caulifla having ss3

Another way to boost Caulifla is if Kale gets killed or she dies due to overextending herself, Kale stamina issues really worry me tbh.

[namekiansaiyan]

We know that Dr Rota will job of Harmira and Prum, but not confirmed that he will be eliminated(seems similar to Kale when some people thought Jiren eliminated her).

Don't see the point of having him in the ring unless he heals caulifla & kale,having their power boosted because their nature,look like the logical way of caulifla having ss3

Why are you assuming he is a doctor that is good and heals others. Where is SS3 Caulifla coming from.

[The gr]

Why are you assuming he is a doctor that is good and heals others. Where is SS3 Caulifla coming from.

Just my two cent on this characters either he is a medic or a guy who is good with chemicals,he is called the Dr for a reason

Goku did mentioned that she had the potential to go ss3

Another way to boost Caulifla is if Kale gets killed or she dies due to overextending herself, Kale stamina issues really worry me tbh.

I don't see that happening,is not like kale have the kaioken so she is fine as of right now

[MainJPW]

Why are you assuming he is a doctor that is good and heals others. Where is SS3 Caulifla coming from.

Goku stated that Caulifla could reach SSJ3 after mastering 2.

[TheOne]

Why does Piccolo's hearing matter here? In a Battle Royal as big as this his hearing would most likely be a hindrance than an advantage.

Did you apply that same logic with Dyspo?

[FortuneSSJ]

Oh so we're back to the complaining about the story of an episode from a tiny preview phase then? And saying fighters we know nothing about are weak.

What do you mean we're back?! Some people never left that spot.

[perucho1990]

I don't see that happening,is not like kale have the kaioken so she is fine as of right now

She can only use Berserker for a short amount of time now that she can control it, someone is going to take advantage of Kales weakness to at least eliminate her from the ToP