Die-hard dub fans (why are you, if so?)

Big Momma · Post by **Big Momma** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm

Are you guys talking about the English or Japanese voice? English sounds like a normal Black woman to me, and I don't sense any "retarded-ness" in the Japanese, either. (But that's partly because I wouldn't know what that sounds like in Japanese

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NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:33 pm

Big Momma wrote:Are you guys talking about the English or Japanese voice? English sounds like a normal Black woman to me, and I don't sense any "retarded-ness" in the Japanese, either. (But that's partly because I wouldn't know what that sounds like in Japanese )

I think you misread some stuff on the last page friend.

Big Momma · Post by **Big Momma** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:36 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:
Big Momma wrote:Are you guys talking about the English or Japanese voice? English sounds like a normal Black woman to me, and I don't sense any "retarded-ness" in the Japanese, either. (But that's partly because I wouldn't know what that sounds like in Japanese )
I think you misread some stuff on the last page friend.

You are correct, good sir.

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*sneaks away*

caejones · Post by **caejones** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:09 am

(Referring to the racist voices, 'cause I don't feel like quote-training. ^^ ).

Most of the Saiyaman-Buu saga, we got on VHS, so it kinda became something that everyone in the house would pay attention to (I think my Stepmother was first in the family to pick up on Bibidi-Babidi-Buu...).
So the whole one line that Killa got (that I didn't really hear or catch so clearly) elicitted (Woah, should have realized I couldn't spell that before trying to type it) a response.

... Which was something to the effect of "

Cartman!

... I'll bet they'll get a call from the NAACP because of that.". Ur... that might even be an exact quote, so close as I can recall at the moment anyway. ^_^.

Recoome: The Mehful Solvestor Stalone (SP. Again.

) impression actually sounded a bit less "retarded" to me than his voice in UB22 and Legends (to be fair, the mouthflaps in UB22's cutscenes didn't make him look intelligent. Yes, the visually challenged kid complained about the mouthflaps. That's how "!" they are.)...
... BUT! In the newer stuff (the games, mostly, since I haven't heard him in the redub / UUE / Orange Bricks) ... sounds so painfully stupid that the gangster-dogs from CatDog would have been nicer to the character. ("Two Stupid Dogs" Anyone?).

Independent of the writing, of course. Burter outsmarting Recoome out of chocolate... was that a dub-thing? ... Not that I'd mind either way, Heee.... XD

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:37 am

caejones wrote:Burter outsmarting Recoome out of chocolate... was that a dub-thing? ... Not that I'd mind either way, Heee.... XD

That was dub-only. In the original, Baata simply won the chocolate fair and square. Reacoom's not really that stupid at all in the original. Crazy, yes. Weird, absolutely. Stupid, no. There's nothing in the Japanese version (anime or manga) that ever suggests that, making that aspect of Reacoom basically a dub-ism.

penguintruth · Post by **penguintruth** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:50 am

But his name is Recoome! It rhymes with doom! And you'll be hurting all too soon!

"I truly am a man of many, many talents."

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:59 am

penguintruth wrote:But his name is Recoome! It rhymes with doom! And you'll be hurting all too soon!

"I truly am a man of many, many talents."

Would've preferred, "Recoome, TERRORIZE!" I take it?

Big Momma · Post by **Big Momma** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:18 am

Why is everyone going on about this "Killa" character? Can I see some youtube clips or something?

Onikage725 · Post by **Onikage725** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:15 am

Super Sonic wrote:
Would've preferred, "Recoome, TERRORIZE!" I take it?

Heheh you're my new favorite.

Big Momma wrote:Why is everyone going on about this "Killa" character? Can I see some youtube clips or something?

Well, if this was a pre Death Note world, I'd say try looking under Kira. S'what we used to call him. Kunzait, you have all the orange bricks right? Mind throwing up a clip?

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:12 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADnMTTf9 ... re=related

Here ya go.

God after watching this again nobody really has the right to call Mr.Popo's voice racist, at least you could comprehend him. Enjoy all the racist Youtube comments by the way. Good ol' internet anonymity

Metalwario64 · Post by **Metalwario64** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:00 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADnMTTf9 ... re=related

Here ya go.

God after watching this again nobody really has the right to call Mr.Popo's voice racist, at least you could comprehend him. Enjoy all the racist Youtube comments by the way. Good ol' internet anonymity

Killa is Dragon Ball Z's Boomhauer.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:07 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:
NeptuneKai wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADnMTTf9 ... re=related

Here ya go.

God after watching this again nobody really has the right to call Mr.Popo's voice racist, at least you could comprehend him. Enjoy all the racist Youtube comments by the way. Good ol' internet anonymity
Killa is Dragon Ball Z's Boomhauer.

Well Boomhauer speaks fast using actual words. I may be wrong but it kind of sounds like the V.A for Killa is just stuttering around saying nonsense then ends it with a real word like "HIIBADIJIBBA DE HERBA HIT HIM IN DA HEAD." But whatever, I'm not personally offended. I just find that choice to be extremely interesting.

Come to think of it the English subtitles for the singles would answer this question, anybody care to check that?

Big Momma · Post by **Big Momma** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:24 pm

I'm not gonna lie, that was absolutely hilarious!

Was that the Japanese or English dub?

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:51 pm

Big Momma wrote:I'm not gonna lie, that was absolutely hilarious!

Was that the Japanese or English dub?

English

Pitzu · Post by **Pitzu** » Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:28 am

I really hate the dub's script after watching the Japanese version, but I love Funi's actors.

Schemmel is just the perfect Goku.
Seriously

Edit : And by Perfect I mean for me.
I know Nozawa has the experience in voicing him, but you have to look at Goku's body and how he's a guy. His body fits better with Schemmel's voice, especially in the later seasons and the redubbed first season

penguintruth · Post by **penguintruth** » Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:40 am

Pitzu wrote:I really hate the dub's script after watching the Japanese version, but I love Funi's actors.

Schemmel is just the perfect Goku.
Seriously

Edit : And by Perfect I mean for me.
I know Nozawa has the experience in voicing him, but you have to look at Goku's body and how he's a guy. His body fits better with Schemmel's voice, especially in the later seasons and the redubbed first season

I really must disagree with you.

Schemmel's Goku, especially during combat or intense scenes, has this stupid gravelly "action hero" sound to him which defeats the purpose of Goku.

Goku is all about personality and how it contrasts with his physical nature. Aesthetics are meaningless with Goku, therefore it doesn't matter if the voice sounds like it belongs to the body.

The closest I've come to comfort with an English-voiced Goku are portions of Peter Kelamis' performance, where he has sort of a higher, chirpy inflection to his voice. It sounds sort of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles-ish most of the time, but there are moments when he hits Goku's personality just right and still remains masculine-sounding.

But Nozawa isn't just perfect in pitch for Goku, the delivery is important, too. The way Goku speaks is another important factor, the way she delivers his lines. Go ahead, listen to the way he speaks, then listen to the way everyone else does. There's a certain "oh shucks" to it, but without seeming too corny.

To me, Schemmel is just a guy doing a voice that's merely filling in for the real one. Nozawa is Goku.

English dub Goku, especially Schemmel's, seems to concentrate too much on Goku's physical nature, his power. Any character can be strong. Goku is strong and he's sort of a weird hick. That's what makes him different from your generic strongman.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:46 pm

penguintruth wrote:Goku is all about personality and how it contrasts with his physical nature. Aesthetics are meaningless with Goku, therefore it doesn't matter if the voice sounds like it belongs to the body.

I just want to say that I think this reasoning for Goku's JPN voice is pretty funny, given JPN Bardock and Tullece and US Freeza.

Mewzard · Post by **Mewzard** » Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:00 pm

Rocketman wrote:
penguintruth wrote:Goku is all about personality and how it contrasts with his physical nature. Aesthetics are meaningless with Goku, therefore it doesn't matter if the voice sounds like it belongs to the body.
I just want to say that I think this reasoning for Goku's JPN voice is pretty funny, given JPN Bardock and Tullece and US Freeza.

If that's the case, then Dub Freeza can fit just perfectly.

Everyone has double standards. It's part of life.

Personally, I like both Gokus. English and Japanese. I've yet to see the full anime in Japanese, however, so when I get the Dragon Box, I'll watch the series entirely in Japanese first, then in English. That should give me more perspective.

That said, I still prefer Schemmel. I get crap for this by my more Japanese version liking friend, but I can't help feeling the way that I do. I don't hate the Japanese version either, and accept that for some people, that's their preference. But, when other people left the dub and went pure sub, I stuck with the dub, and checked out sub bits here and there.

Schemmel's Goku to me, the Goku I grew up on, and rarely hated (I would much prefer an accurate script for them to do, but I don't hate the voice itself). I'm curious as to if Kai will see a more accurate dub. If so, and that succeeds, maybe we'll see a redub of DBZ more accurate. Funi will milk it that far if they can.

Ultimate_DB_Fan · Post by **Ultimate_DB_Fan** » Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:59 pm

For all the flack the redubs of seasons 1 and 2 get, I think they were good. They sound well connected to the original Funi recordings done mid-Cell saga and throughout the rest of the series. What's wrong with liking both versions, I ask? What's wrong?!
Being as how I'm neutral, ain't no sub-fans here gonna convince me otherwise, regardless of what they say or how they feel about Funi's in-house folks. So guys like penguintruth, etc., could moan all they like about the show not being the same when watching the dub. I'll dust my shoulders off, watch the dub whenever I want and drink my beers in the process.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:04 pm

I think everyone in the dub cast is perfect for their characters now. Schemmel is phenomenal as Goku. And Chris Sabat's Piccolo since 2005? Amazing.