"DBZ: Battle of Z" (360/PS3/Vita) On-Going Discussion Thread

[dbboxkaifan]

I don't see why listening to the ideas of a fan, itself receiving positive feedback by other fans, is a bad thing.

They listened to the fans' opinion for Ultimate Tenkaichi, look how that ended up.

Listening to the fans is never a good idea because we're all different. They should be the ones to come up with the game not the fans.

[Jaruka]

Yes I am, never insulted anyone directly to ruin his day. But seems like you didn't understood what I wrote, round of applause for you then. I understand why are people upset, I only don't understand, why they are so rude.
Because of this approach, PR of Bandai is taking piss on them instantly. I'm terribly sorry then, but being this rude is issue of kids up till their teen age or uneducated morons.

No, you didn't insult anyone directly. However you are still being quite cruel.

As for the round of applause, thank you but there's no need for it, I hear it in my head constantly already.

treevax on facebook :

(Namco Bandai's former Label director already answered me that their upcoming game has been influenced by the synthesis I made. Time will tell the proportions)

if it's true than finaly we will have a good game

Jolly good. I liked most of the man's suggestions!

Guys, I just want to point out that I'm better than all of you because I don't give a crap about any of this. Whether someone is chill or mad, it's just another video game. So while you pheasants sit and bicker about your PR-troubles, I'll be sitting here re-watching the trailer to the new Jump game 1000 times.


I'm absolutely kidding, of course.

We're all pheasents!? I thought I'd been running in front of traffic a bit too much recently. I'll change my profile picture accordingly.

They listened to the fans' opinion for Ultimate Tenkaichi, look how that ended up.

Listening to the fans is never a good idea because we're all different. They should be the ones to come up with the game not the fans.

They misinterpreted the fan's wishes for UT. This is very detailed and is essentially the evolution of Tenkaichi.

[Colonel Silver]

treevax on facebook :

(Namco Bandai's former Label director already answered me that their upcoming game has been influenced by the synthesis I made. Time will tell the proportions)

if it's true than finaly we will have a good game

Wow, Namco Bandai couldn't come up with a Dragon Ball game of their own so they had to use their fans idea for the new game.

I don't see why listening to the ideas of a fan, itself receiving positive feedback by other fans, is a bad thing.

Because you end up with a steaming pile of crap like UT. The more vocal Fans wanted DBZ games to be more like the anime, they wanted more drama pieces in the middle of battle and limited use of super moves because it ruins the immersion lol... well, guess what? They listened and we got a game that was so much like the anime, you don't even play it, you watch the damn thing. Bandai, needs to draw the line somewhere and make the damn game themselves. UT with RB2's fighting system would have been the sexiest DBZ game to date, man. I'm still sour about how crap it was.

[SparkyPantsMcGee]

Hah, DB fans were again acting like spoiled childish cretins. Nice!
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''We make 100k likes, and you didn't got me what I wanted, so I will call you names and will angrilly fuck my infatable burro to shreds.''

While I don't condone any of the rude, childish behavior as I pointed out before this kind of thing isn't limited to Dragonball fans. If any group of fans got similar treatment you would see similar results. People were encouraged to push this Facebook page to 100,000 likes and were promised more news as a reward. People made an effort(as much is you can with a mouse and keyboard I guess) to spread the word to try and get the page to it's goal. It worked, and as a results fans got nothing. You are bound to tick off people this way no matter what group it is. Not all of the reactions to this have been maturely thought out points as to why they are upset, but I can't imagine why you don't see how they could be upset. Something should have happened. It could have been a teaser, more clues, something...

I won't say these guys are monsters, evil or what have you but there actions weren't very smart. They are probably following orders from NB Japan and are waiting for their signal from them. In the meantime they just wanted to do something fun with the fans and it blew up quicker than they imagined. It probably would have been smart to have a back up plan just in case the goal was met before they were prepared for the news but that's were the mistakes were made. All anyone can really do now is be patient and wait and try to understand both sides of the situation.

[LeprikanGT]

Does anyone else see the irony on "conquer the world" news only able to be viewed in eurpoean countries?

[Ryuman]

I dunno, there were some things I appreciate about UT. But I don't quite think the game was poor because they tried to appeal to fan ideas more. It seems like they made bad decisions when executing some ideas. I don't think the fans asked for a game with such limited control. I also think the lack of time spent in development had something to do with it. Maybe I'm being a bit biased since I liked Nostal's ideas, but I think we'll be getting something most people will like. Unless they screw it up again of course, time will tell.

[Big Momma]

I don't see why listening to the ideas of a fan, itself receiving positive feedback by other fans, is a bad thing.

They listened to the fans' opinion for Ultimate Tenkaichi, look how that ended up.

Listening to the fans is never a good idea because we're all different. They should be the ones to come up with the game not the fans.

If you give his ideas a read, you might think differently. Then again, it will ultimately come down to how the developers execute the ideas.

We're all pheasents!? I thought I'd been running in front of traffic a bit too much recently. I'll change my profile picture accordingly.

I can't be mad at this because you actually changed your DP for it.

[Thanos]

Who knows... we might get the Infinite World equivalent of Spike games for this generation. Treevax's plans largely dealt with combining elements from previous entries, and although that isn't exactly what we want, it could be done well. Some kind of... "Ultimate Sparking! Blast" game. I'd be okay with that, especially if it includes his idea for a character creator.

[dbboxkaifan]

I dunno, there were some things I appreciate about UT. But I don't quite think the game was poor because they tried to appeal to fan ideas more. It seems like they made bad decisions when executing some ideas. I don't think the fans asked for a game with such limited control. I also think the lack of time spent in development had something to do with it. Maybe I'm being a bit biased since I liked Nostal's ideas, but I think we'll be getting something most people will like. Unless they screw it up again of course, time will tell.

When I played DBZ Ultimate Tenkaichi a lot of it was like in the anime and that was great to enjoy watching with new animation, and DBZ:UT is a true anime-game experience that fans been wanting but now that it's out they hate it.

If you give his ideas a read, you might think differently. Then again, it will ultimately come down to how the developers execute the ideas.

I liked his ideas for a fan-game (would've make a whole lot better than RB2 or UT game) but Namco Bandai shouldn't need to take advice or ideas from fans.

[Jaruka]

I can't be mad at this because you actually changed your DP for it.

I meant it all in jest, my friend

Who knows... we might get the Infinite World equivalent of Spike games for this generation. Treevax's plans largely dealt with combining elements from previous entries, and although that isn't exactly what we want, it could be done well. Some kind of... "Ultimate Sparking! Blast" game. I'd be okay with that, especially if it includes his idea for a character creator.

I don't know. They've had (I assume) two years if it's even Spike so it may just be something completely new.

[hulkty]

They lied. I'm pissed. I'm out.

[Jaruka]

They lied. I'm pissed. I'm out.

You''ll be back when the first scan comes out

[TheMightyOzaru]

Treevax influences are being put into this game? Cool. Hopefully they don't screw it up.

[enjyu123]

Yes, it seems like Nostal is helping ideas wise because in one of his comments he stated "because of your supports namco are focused on my ideas after he communicated with them. Things are getting better and better with Dragon ball z. I actually approve what Namco said earlier do you want a sloppy picture right now ( because they are not ready) or a better picture or even teaser later on. I can wait .

[90sDBZ]

So I wonder if Namco Bandai's facebook page is actually trolling us intentionally or are they just trying to build up hype. If they want to build hype they aren't handling it very well. I can understand the whole 100K likes thing because that was a cool way to unite the fanbase and let us all be a part of it but they really should have made themselves more clear rather than misleading their fans into thinking there'd be a trailer right away. Chances are by the time they do post anything of real interest it will already be all over the web anyway and all those likes will have been for nothing.

[miguelnuva1]

treevax on facebook :

(Namco Bandai's former Label director already answered me that their upcoming game has been influenced by the synthesis I made. Time will tell the proportions)

if it's true than finaly we will have a good game

Wow, Namco Bandai couldn't come up with a Dragon Ball game of their own so they had to use their fans idea for the new game.

If their big enough to admit they need help to make a good game then let them get help.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I really don't see what's wrong with asking the fan base what they want. It helps make a better game and God knows we need one.

[SparkyPantsMcGee]

Wow, Namco Bandai couldn't come up with a Dragon Ball game of their own so they had to use their fans idea for the new game.

If their big enough to admit they need help to make a good game then let them get help.

Seriously. I'm not a big fan of everything Nostal has proposed to Namco-Bandai but over all he brings more good than harm. Spike and party are pretty much stuck in a rut and there really isn't a good picture of what the fans want and what the developers can/can't deliver. He serves as a nice middle ground and can bring things in the right direction. If done right it could be a nice step in the right direction.

Of course it could always end up looking like "The Homer"

[TheGameTagerZ]

So what I got from this was

Asking fans = DBZ UT

Amazing.

It's almost like you people think they go ask 12 year olds what they would like in a DBZ game.

[kbrooksgohan]

I agree Gamertagerz. I think it's wrong to say not to listen to fans at all. a lot of the ideas proposed come from the source material but sometimes we have no control over how it's executed.