Dragon Ball Z Being Re-edited and Re-dubbed for HDTV

SSJ Helldog · Post by **SSJ Helldog** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 12:52 pm

Wasted Wisher wrote: - Goku's winky has disappeared!

Nooo! Every man's worst fear!

Thanks for the info, Wasted Wisher! I like the idea that they're going to incorperate bits of the backstory into the new version of Z. I always felt that Z's biggest downfall (filler not included) was that it felt incomplete on its own. Watching it on US TV a decade ago, it seemed strange to have a tri-clops and a midget mime pop out of nowhere. And while I love original DB, sometimes it feels like a long lead-in to the sheer excitement of Z.

snaku · Post by **snaku** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:01 pm

Wasted Wisher wrote:When I first heard it was being called Kai, I couldn't believe it myself! Cool logo though.

By the way, here's a few things that will be in the upcoming first episode of DB-Kai:

- A brief look at the last moments of Bardock and Planet Vegeta
- An overview of young Goku's growing up years (Dragonball, the pre-Z period) up until his triumph over Piccolo at the Tenkaichi-Budokai.
- The all-too-brief and yet still somewhat triumphant return of FARMER WITH A SHOTGUN!

And sadly (although that really all depends on how you look at things...)
- Goku's winky has disappeared!

That's right, through the miracle of "we're just not gonna draw it anymore", Li'l Goku is no longer going to be allowed to show off "Even Littler Goku" on TV. But don't worry, they won't do anything so blatant as to digitize tighty-whiteys on him.

Poor lil Goku.

So if Saiya-jin no longer have human reproductive organs, how do Goku & Chi Chi/Vegeta & Bulma get it on?

sangofe · Post by **sangofe** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:08 pm

Wasted Wisher wrote:When I first heard it was being called Kai, I couldn't believe it myself! Cool logo though.

By the way, here's a few things that will be in the upcoming first episode of DB-Kai:

- A brief look at the last moments of Bardock and Planet Vegeta
- An overview of young Goku's growing up years (Dragonball, the pre-Z period) up until his triumph over Piccolo at the Tenkaichi-Budokai.
- The all-too-brief and yet still somewhat triumphant return of FARMER WITH A SHOTGUN!

And sadly (although that really all depends on how you look at things...)
- Goku's winky has disappeared!

That's right, through the miracle of "we're just not gonna draw it anymore", Li'l Goku is no longer going to be allowed to show off "Even Littler Goku" on TV. But don't worry, they won't do anything so blatant as to digitize tighty-whiteys on him.

Wasted Wisher:
Are they censoring violence as well?
And are they just re-using animation from bardock special to incorperate Planet Vegeta stuff?

SSJ Helldog wrote: I like the idea that they're going to incorperate bits of the backstory into the new version of Z. I always felt that Z's biggest downfall (filler not included) was that it felt incomplete on its own. Watching it on US TV a decade ago, it seemed strange to have a tri-clops and a midget mime pop out of nowhere. And while I love original DB, sometimes it feels like a long lead-in to the sheer excitement of Z.

I'm torn on this, I mean, if they do this, it surely means they practically will ignore DB enteriely, and not do a remastering of it, doesn't it?

B · Post by B » Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:22 pm

Oolong would be pleased with this news. DBK doesn't have what he despises.

Taku128 · Post by **Taku128** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:25 pm

sangofe wrote:I'm torn on this, I mean, if they do this, it surely means they practically will ignore DB enteriely, and not do a remastering of it, doesn't it?

It could just be a really long last episode recap, only with the whole series instead of one episode. I'm sure if this does well enough they'll do Dragon Ball as well.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:52 pm

Wasted Wisher wrote:When I first heard it was being called Kai, I couldn't believe it myself! Cool logo though.

By the way, here's a few things that will be in the upcoming first episode of DB-Kai:

- A brief look at the last moments of Bardock and Planet Vegeta
- An overview of young Goku's growing up years (Dragonball, the pre-Z period) up until his triumph over Piccolo at the Tenkaichi-Budokai.
- The all-too-brief and yet still somewhat triumphant return of FARMER WITH A SHOTGUN!

And sadly (although that really all depends on how you look at things...)
- Goku's winky has disappeared!

That's right, through the miracle of "we're just not gonna draw it anymore", Li'l Goku is no longer going to be allowed to show off "Even Littler Goku" on TV. But don't worry, they won't do anything so blatant as to digitize tighty-whiteys on him.

I'm kind of amused by this. I'm guessing restrictions on nudity have gotten tighter in Japan in recent years? (Not that Goku even really drops his pants often once he's an adult).

I'm curious as to see what the recap will look like; though I'm guessing it'll be spliced together footage from The Bardock Special and episodes of the original DB.

Son Wukong · Post by **Son Wukong** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:16 pm

Wasted Wisher wrote: And sadly (although that really all depends on how you look at things...)
- Goku's winky has disappeared!

I don't like where this is heading people! But still, April 5th can't come soon enough.

The Time Traveller · Post by **The Time Traveller** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:21 pm

sangofe wrote:Where is this colored logo from?

I made it from the scan, I just turned down the red then colored over the faded colors. That's what it should look like...

Anyway, the first episode looks like it'll be good, I knew it'd have DB retold quickly, but was doubting they'd do anything to do with Bardock.

Shiyonasan · Post by **Shiyonasan** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:37 pm

The Time Traveller wrote:I knew it'd have DB retold quickly, but was doubting they'd do anything to do with Bardock.

Well, Akira Toriyama did like the Bardock special, didn't he?

Regardless, this is pretty exciting stuff happening. Can't wait until April 5....

MagicBox · Post by **MagicBox** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:40 pm

Yeah, Toriyama included Burdock in a few panels of the manga, so technically, our wish that Toei will only be including canon manga material is still in the realm of possibility.

I'm getting so excited. Can't wait!

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:41 pm

sangofe wrote: I'm torn on this, I mean, if they do this, it surely means they practically will ignore DB enteriely, and not do a remastering of it, doesn't it?

I think you're forgetting something:

THIS SHOW IS FOR KIDS.

And you know...um...

Some kids may not be completely familiar with all the events of the old series.

Anyway, this is definitely interesting. It seems like "Kai" is going to be a bastardization after all. Cut down not only in content, but in tone as well! And they obviously aren't cutting down on only their stuff, as the Bardock special will be the first thing we see.

Shiyonasan wrote: Well, Akira Toriyama did like the Bardock special, didn't he?

Toriyama is his own biggest critic. He loves what everyone else does, and hates what he does. By this logic, we should omit the entire manga....and only include the movies, TV specials, and....live action movie.

sangofe · Post by **sangofe** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:47 pm

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:
sangofe wrote:
Wasted Wisher wrote: I'm torn on this, I mean, if they do this, it surely means they practically will ignore DB enteriely, and not do a remastering of it, doesn't it?
I think you're forgetting something:

THIS SHOW IS FOR KIDS.

And DBZ isn't?

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:50 pm

sangofe wrote:
Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:
sangofe wrote: I think you're forgetting something:

THIS SHOW IS FOR KIDS.
And DBZ isn't?

You missed my point.

I was saying that this generation of 10 year-olds may not be completely familiar with a TV show that aired from 1986 to 1989, because 10 year-olds wouldn't be BORN yet.

B · Post by B » Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:37 pm

I wonder what's the point of removing a bulge with a dot on it.

Dicks in Dragon Ball really aren't dicks at all. =/

The Time Traveller · Post by **The Time Traveller** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:51 pm

B wrote:I wonder what's the point of removing a bulge with a dot on it.

Dicks in Dragon Ball really aren't dicks at all. =/

That's what little boys weenies look like all the time in Anime, just look at Crayon Shin-chan or Gurren Lagann.

Big Momma · Post by **Big Momma** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:26 pm

I don't mean this in any kind of pedo-pervy way, but Dragonball won't fill the same with Goku's winky.

I mean, that's usually the biggest thing I have to warn my american friends about when I first introduce them to the original!

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:54 pm

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:I was saying that this generation of 10 year-olds may not be completely familiar with a TV show that aired from 1986 to 1989, because 10 year-olds wouldn't be BORN yet.

...uh...DragonBall Z aired from 1989 to 1996 so...this generation of 10 year-olds weren't born yet either

-Corey

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:56 pm

majinrod153 wrote:I hope they catch all of the inconsistencies from the first airing. Taking out the filler will solve most of those problems.

Many of those inconsistencies are in the manga, too, so probably not.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:57 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:I was saying that this generation of 10 year-olds may not be completely familiar with a TV show that aired from 1986 to 1989, because 10 year-olds wouldn't be BORN yet.
...uh...DragonBall Z aired from 1989 to 1996 so...this generation of 10 year-olds weren't born yet either

-Corey

Yes, yes I *know*.

I'm just saying why they are doing a stupid recap, dammit! =p

If they're gonna start at Z, then they're gonna have to explain what happened in DB, and it doesn't indicate anything about their plans for DB. That is all that I am saying. Am I just spouting gibberish here, or what? I don't know what I'm doing, but could people stop adding stuff to what I'm saying that I never said ever?

kusakun004 · Post by **kusakun004** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 7:20 pm

Chuquita wrote:
Wasted Wisher wrote:When I first heard it was being called Kai, I couldn't believe it myself! Cool logo though.

By the way, here's a few things that will be in the upcoming first episode of DB-Kai:

- A brief look at the last moments of Bardock and Planet Vegeta
- An overview of young Goku's growing up years (Dragonball, the pre-Z period) up until his triumph over Piccolo at the Tenkaichi-Budokai.
- The all-too-brief and yet still somewhat triumphant return of FARMER WITH A SHOTGUN!

And sadly (although that really all depends on how you look at things...)
- Goku's winky has disappeared!

That's right, through the miracle of "we're just not gonna draw it anymore", Li'l Goku is no longer going to be allowed to show off "Even Littler Goku" on TV. But don't worry, they won't do anything so blatant as to digitize tighty-whiteys on him.
I'm kind of amused by this. I'm guessing restrictions on nudity have gotten tighter in Japan in recent years? (Not that Goku even really drops his pants often once he's an adult).

I'm curious as to see what the recap will look like; though I'm guessing it'll be spliced together footage from The Bardock Special and episodes of the original DB.

I'm not sure about nudity, but I know that flipping the bird doesn't seem to be allowed anymore. This happened in Samurai Champloo when the finger was blurred. Of course, I think there are breasts that aren't edited either. Honestly, I don't care about nudity edits though.