Unpopular DB opinions

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Recently finished watching the U6 arc again and I actually enjoyed the pre-tournament stuff namely the Bulma and Jaco episode of the U6 arc and the post-tournament stuff including the Water arc more then the actual tournament arc.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

Retcons are not bad and I welcome them.
Fans outcry to retcons for the mere fact of being retcons are just crybabies, the mindset of stablished elements remaining untouched and unchage is completely overrated in this fandom (or any fandom, period).

[Anime Kitten]

Might be unpopular, might not, but I liked the Potafeu "mini-arc".
It was great. The whole power drain deal gave the arc some tension, the designs were nice (I liked Gryll's gang, and the drippy Commeson clones), and it was entertaining.

It is unpopular, but I agree a lot. It was an interesting little filler arc that gave us a nice fight between Goku and Vegeta, essentially. My only gripe is how Goten and Trunks learned nothing from it, but hey, what can you ask?

[Yedis]

I have no issue with Future Trunks being as strong as Goku or Vegeta.

[Alruneia]

I have no issue with Future Trunks being as strong as Goku or Vegeta.

I think everyone, at least every saiyan, should be able to become as strong as Goku and Vegeta are. My problem is with how they made Trunks as strong as they did. The sudden rage boost transformation in Episode 61 (I think) with the white eyes and blue aura was fine, even, until he became able to tap into that form at will. As a temporary rage boost, that form is completely fine to me, but it's out of nowhere that he immediately became able to use it as he pleases, and that bothers me.

[phattangent]

I have no issue with Future Trunks being as strong as Goku or Vegeta.

I think everyone, at least every saiyan, should be able to become as strong as Goku and Vegeta are. My problem is with how they made Trunks as strong as they did. The sudden rage boost transformation in Episode 61 (I think) with the white eyes and blue aura was fine, even, until he became able to tap into that form at will. As a temporary rage boost, that form is completely fine to me, but it's out of nowhere that he immediately became able to use it as he pleases, and that bothers me.

It's because of the offscreen pushups he does.

[Cure Dragon 255]

What the... Alruneira? So you are unhappy that Future Trunks can "now use Super Saiyan X as he pleases?" where did you get that he can do it as he pleases? And if he can, so what? Goku could use SS as he pleased, so did Vegeta, Gohan, Goten and Past Trunks. I know its not SSGSS but its the same, also If Trunks was going to be exiled from the storyline after Zamasu's defeat, why not go in a blaze of glory like he did in 66? I know he didnt die, but his exit from the storyline is just as important. People are constantly complaining that only Goku and Vegeta do stuff and now when someone does its "HAX POWA TO THE MAX". But if that's hax so is Gohan's SSJ2 on the Cell arcs and NOBODY complained about THAT.

[Anime Kitten]

So you are unhappy that Future Trunks can "now use Super Saiyan X as he pleases?" where did you get that he can do it as he pleases?

He's transformed into it at will several times in the past few episodes, since he unlocked it the first time. And I think her point is that it's a rage boost form that hasn't been developed yet, so it's very odd that he can use it whenever he pleases without even training to do so.

[Soppa Saia People]

Retcons are not bad and I welcome them.
Fans outcry to retcons for the mere fact of being retcons are just crybabies, the mindset of stablished elements remaining untouched and unchage is completely overrated in this fandom (or any fandom, period).

(Jesus, I've been trying to replie to this since 11 am) I don't mind retcons, as long as it doesn't interfere with other things. Goku being an alien = Good retcon. Having everything that Raditz ever said being wrong = Bad retcon. IMO

[Alruneia]

So you are unhappy that Future Trunks can "now use Super Saiyan X as he pleases?" where did you get that he can do it as he pleases?

He's transformed into it at will several times in the past few episodes, since he unlocked it the first time. And I think her point is that it's a rage boost form that hasn't been developed yet, so it's very odd that he can use it whenever he pleases without even training to do so.

Basically. It's a form with incredible power unlocked through rage, similar to SSJ2, but the power increase is so much larger than the SSJ2 one. I mean, the multiplier's gotta be in the thousands. And the first time he gets it I'm completely fine with it, because he goes "MY BULMA"-tier mad at the end of Episode 61 to transform. Then, in the beginning of Episode 62, he uses that rage boosted form to stand up to Rosé Black for a while, then stops being able to because the rage boost fades. That's how I wish the form continued to work. After that initial burst fades, though, he becomes easily able to power back up to that form's full power again, doing it twice before Goku and Vegeta leave for the present. He suddenly doesn't need a rage boost anymore. This is similar to how SSJ2 was treated... in the Buu arc, where every SSJ2 user already had plenty of experience with the form (an argument can be made about Vegeta, but it's pretty agreed upon that he was able to turn SSJ2 before Majin). Trunks got that experience out of thin air over the span of five seconds. That's why it's out of nowhere and it bothers me.
I hope I made myself clear.

[kinisking]

So you are unhappy that Future Trunks can "now use Super Saiyan X as he pleases?" where did you get that he can do it as he pleases?

He's transformed into it at will several times in the past few episodes, since he unlocked it the first time. And I think her point is that it's a rage boost form that hasn't been developed yet, so it's very odd that he can use it whenever he pleases without even training to do so.

Basically. It's a form with incredible power unlocked through rage, similar to SSJ2, but the power increase is so much larger than the SSJ2 one. I mean, the multiplier's gotta be in the thousands. And the first time he gets it I'm completely fine with it, because he goes "MY BULMA"-tier mad at the end of Episode 61 to transform. Then, in the beginning of Episode 62, he uses that rage boosted form to stand up to Rosé Black for a while, then stops being able to because the rage boost fades. That's how I wish the form continued to work. After that initial burst fades, though, he becomes easily able to power back up to that form's full power again, doing it twice before Goku and Vegeta leave for the present. He suddenly doesn't need a rage boost anymore. This is similar to how SSJ2 was treated... in the Buu arc, where every SSJ2 user already had plenty of experience with the form (an argument can be made about Vegeta, but it's pretty agreed upon that he was able to turn SSJ2 before Majin). Trunks got that experience out of thin air over the span of five seconds. That's why it's out of nowhere and it bothers me.
I hope I made myself clear.

Gohan was able to transform into ss2 without practice.

[ABED]

Retcons are not bad and I welcome them.
Fans outcry to retcons for the mere fact of being retcons are just crybabies, the mindset of stablished elements remaining untouched and unchage is completely overrated in this fandom (or any fandom, period).

(Jesus, I've been trying to replie to this since 11 am) I don't mind retcons, as long as it doesn't interfere with other things. Goku being an alien = Good retcon. Having everything that Raditz ever said being wrong = Bad retcon. IMO

The fact that it is contradicted doesn't make it bad. Perhaps the new story is the better idea. Freeza destroying Vegeta is far more interesting than a random meteor. It sucks that Toriyama lacked foresight to make both Raditz' explanation work and the later explanation, but I don't consider that a bad retcon.

[Soppa Saia People]

Retcons are not bad and I welcome them.
Fans outcry to retcons for the mere fact of being retcons are just crybabies, the mindset of stablished elements remaining untouched and unchage is completely overrated in this fandom (or any fandom, period).

(Jesus, I've been trying to replie to this since 11 am) I don't mind retcons, as long as it doesn't interfere with other things. Goku being an alien = Good retcon. Having everything that Raditz ever said being wrong = Bad retcon. IMO

The fact that it is contradicted doesn't make it bad. Perhaps the new story is the better idea. Freeza destroying Vegeta is far more interesting than a random meteor. It sucks that Toriyama lacked foresight to make both Raditz' explanation work and the later explanation, but I don't consider that a bad retcon.

I was more talking about Goku's backstory then planet's Vegeta's destruction.

[Anime Kitten]

The Garlic Jr. Arc was written excellently. It had a nice cast of characters (I mean, CHI-CHI!), and more interactions between Gohan and Piccolo, which are unfortunately lacking in most portions of the franchise. Also, we finally got an arc that didn't depend on either Goku arriving in the nick of time, or Goku's strength in general.

I also really enjoyed Garlic Jr's plan. It was so planned out that literally no one on Earth could stop him (Krillin and Maron just got lucky ). And what a finish, too! What better way to defeat an immortal villain than by sealing him somewhere he can never get out from?

Overall, it's greatly enjoyable, even if you need to to overlook Maron's 'antics'.

[Hyena_Yamcha]

The Frieza arc (not namek) is probably the worst arc in Dragon Ball Z , espically in the anime

[ABED]

I was more talking about Goku's backstory then planet's Vegeta's destruction.

It's Goku's backstory that you consider a bad retcon?

[Soppa Saia People]

I was more talking about Goku's backstory then planet's Vegeta's destruction.

It's Goku's backstory that you consider a bad retcon?

I'll have to reread Raditz's exposition, but I seem to remember that all lot of new stuff kinda retcons it.

[floofychan333]

Dragon Ball is better than its vastly more popular counterpart in every way.

[floofychan333]

I don't like Ms. Nozawa's voice on an adult Goku that much. It's far from unbearable, but sometimes it feels like it doesn't suit the situation, or scene. And please don't rail on me for this.

I agree somewhat. I've always imagined Goku as being more manly as portrayed in the dub, but that's not to say Nozawa isn't generally convincing as a man. It's just Japanese Goku's scream (though it's a great scream) and breathing noises sound very womanly and that's sometimes a bit weird to me.

[The Patrolman]

The Frieza arc (not namek) is probably the worst arc in Dragon Ball Z , espically in the anime

Jk why do you feel that way?