"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Noah » Wed Mar 30, 2016 4:16 pm

Well, that's nice I really don't want to see weekly Dragon Ball Super manga, for the same reason why a Dragon Ball GT manga would be something atrocious to exist
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by emperior » Wed Mar 30, 2016 4:39 pm

Noah wrote:Well, that's nice I really don't want to see weekly Dragon Ball Super manga, for the same reason why a Dragon Ball GT manga would be something atrocious to exist
I don't get your point, please explain.

Sure if the manga becomes weekly it should be the same as the anime, because at the moment the two are quite different.
A weekly manga drawn by Toriyama with the help of Toyotaro would be my dream and probably every DBZ fan's too. But it will never happen lol. Still, I would prefer if we get to know just how deep the script Toriyama is providing is, and how much of an involvement he is having. I hope he actually gives some suggestion on battle choreography but as it looks now he didn't provide a background for U6 vs U7 as it's different from manga.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Noah » Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:42 pm

emperior wrote:I don't get your point, please explain.

Sure if the manga becomes weekly it should be the same as the anime, because at the moment the two are quite different.
A weekly manga drawn by Toriyama with the help of Toyotaro would be my dream and probably every DBZ fan's too. But it will never happen lol. Still, I would prefer if we get to know just how deep the script Toriyama is providing is, and how much of an involvement he is having. I hope he actually gives some suggestion on battle choreography but as it looks now he didn't provide a background for U6 vs U7 as it's different from manga.
Because I personally don't consider BoG/RoF and Super canon to the manga. Call me a freak but the idea of a weekly Dragon Ball Super manga haunts me because Dragon Ball is fine the way it ended it and don't wanna any extend beyond or in the "middle" of that, we had GT, okay... But it was anime only continuation, so the manga was not affected by it. I want to enjoy Super the same way I did with GT, just seeing as a side/what-if story that has no impact in the original thing as I don't see Super going beyond EoZ for example.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by namekiansaiyan » Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:00 pm

Noah wrote:
emperior wrote:I don't get your point, please explain.

Sure if the manga becomes weekly it should be the same as the anime, because at the moment the two are quite different.
A weekly manga drawn by Toriyama with the help of Toyotaro would be my dream and probably every DBZ fan's too. But it will never happen lol. Still, I would prefer if we get to know just how deep the script Toriyama is providing is, and how much of an involvement he is having. I hope he actually gives some suggestion on battle choreography but as it looks now he didn't provide a background for U6 vs U7 as it's different from manga.
Because I personally don't consider BoG/RoF and Super canon to the manga. Call me a freak but the idea of a weekly Dragon Ball Super manga haunts me because Dragon Ball is fine the way it ended it and don't wanna any extend beyond or in the "middle" of that, we had GT, okay... But it was anime only continuation, so the manga was not affected by it. I want to enjoy Super the same way I did with GT, just seeing as a side/what-if story that has no impact in the original thing as I don't see Super going beyond EoZ for example.
It is not a side story and is official in the timeline so you might as well just accept it.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:08 pm

Noah wrote:Because I personally don't consider BoG/RoF and Super canon to the manga. Call me a freak but the idea of a weekly Dragon Ball Super manga haunts me because Dragon Ball is fine the way it ended it and don't wanna any extend beyond or in the "middle" of that, we had GT, okay... But it was anime only continuation, so the manga was not affected by it. I want to enjoy Super the same way I did with GT, just seeing as a side/what-if story that has no impact in the original thing as I don't see Super going beyond EoZ for example.
Why? What about the series being a manga changes things for you? Whether it's monthly or weekly, they're not going to literally shove the Super material into the the contents of the original 42 volumes. Jaco the Galactic Patrolman and the Episode of Bardock manga aren't Volume 0 or 43. The original series run will always remain available "untainted".
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Post by Cetra » Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:45 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:
Noah wrote:
emperior wrote:I don't get your point, please explain.

Sure if the manga becomes weekly it should be the same as the anime, because at the moment the two are quite different.
A weekly manga drawn by Toriyama with the help of Toyotaro would be my dream and probably every DBZ fan's too. But it will never happen lol. Still, I would prefer if we get to know just how deep the script Toriyama is providing is, and how much of an involvement he is having. I hope he actually gives some suggestion on battle choreography but as it looks now he didn't provide a background for U6 vs U7 as it's different from manga.
Because I personally don't consider BoG/RoF and Super canon to the manga. Call me a freak but the idea of a weekly Dragon Ball Super manga haunts me because Dragon Ball is fine the way it ended it and don't wanna any extend beyond or in the "middle" of that, we had GT, okay... But it was anime only continuation, so the manga was not affected by it. I want to enjoy Super the same way I did with GT, just seeing as a side/what-if story that has no impact in the original thing as I don't see Super going beyond EoZ for example.
It is not a side story and is official in the timeline so you might as well just accept it.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Noah » Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:57 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:It is not a side story and is official in the timeline so you might as well just accept it.
There is no such thing as "official timeline" and sorry but you can't oblige me to do that.
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Why? What about the series being a manga changes things for you? Whether it's monthly or weekly, they're not going to literally shove the Super material into the the contents of the original 42 volumes. Jaco the Galactic Patrolman and the Episode of Bardock manga aren't Volume 0 or 43. The original series run will always remain available "untainted".
Well, probably the undeniable argument that with a weekly manga, this series could take part of the main story, being anime only and a manga that only has promotional purposes makes me feel relieved, but that would be me too obsessed with this "canon" thing
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:17 pm

If your problem is being obsessed with "canon", then you should have been worried about the Battle of Gods and Resurrection "F" films (and some version of the Champa Arc, to a questionable degree). They were touted as continuations of Toriyama's story, that the man himself wrote. Cross media storytelling is a very common thing in this day an age. You can have whatever opinion about it that you like, but just because the story wasn't told through a weekly manga, that doesn't render any less of what it was officially promoted as.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by saunasolmu » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:07 pm

Currently there have been at least four different official versions of BoG/RoF events. There's the movies themselves, their promotional mangas, Super and Super's promotional manga. Then there are Toriyama's interviews which have some contradictions to the aforementioned... it's hard time to be a canon purist.

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Post by kinisking » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:20 pm

saunasolmu wrote:Currently there have been at least four different official versions of BoG/RoF events. There's the movies themselves, their promotional mangas, Super and Super's promotional manga. Then there are Toriyama's interviews which have some contradictions to the aforementioned... it's hard time to be a canon purist.
I would say the movies are more canon because I think Toriyama had more involvement. The champa arc is really questionable though. No one knows what's Toriyama and whats Toei
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:25 pm

A weekly release doesn't seem likely, but a new Dragon Ball anime series didn't seem likely either before it was announced :)

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by DBZ_Lee » Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:28 pm

I hope Viz license the manga eventually. Perhaps they will when FUNi announce the anime. I guess from their point of view, there would be little point licensing a manga that is being produced to promote an anime, unless the anime itself is, or to be localized.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Wezenheim » Thu Mar 31, 2016 7:41 pm

If Viz does ever get around to the Super manga, I wonder how they will handle translations. Maybe we will get "Mr. Satan" this time around? Have they even addressed Mr. Satan by name in the manga yet?

Based on my emails with Viz, getting rid of "Hercule" is probably unlikely, but I'm still curious as to how the staff will handle some of the new names and such, like Planet Salad.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by LittleGreen » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:27 pm

Well, since it seems like it will take a while, that we get a translatet version of the manga, i´ve made myself (with the help of Microsoft Word and a Website) one and i´m very happy with it. :D

It contains:

- 305 Pages (including some artworks here and there)
- 10 Chapters (+1)
- The Resurrection F Special
- 2 Joke Pages about Beerus from Dragonball Multiverse

I'm pretty satisfied with it. :D Ah, and it´s german...´cause i´m german. xD

The Volume title says "Battle of Gods".

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by dbgtFO » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:30 pm

@LittleGreen
Did you also include the mini-chapter about how Kaio got his planet back with the Namekian Dragon Balls?

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Post by Nejishiki » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:31 pm

That's pretty interesting. How does a process like that work? I noticed you mentioned using a website but I was under the impression you couldn't publish work that isn't your own as I also notice the code on the back of your book.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by LittleGreen » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:45 pm

@dbgtFO
Wich mini chapter is that? And what´s the name of it? :) To bad i didn´t know that! But i could add it in future Volumes. ^^

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It´s pretty simple ^^
I make these about years with Dragonball Multiverse. :D

I open a Word Document and add every single page per hand in it and change the Picture size to 11,63 x 18,19. (That´s the longest part, because i have to change the size for every single Page. And adjust every Page a little bit, that it fits.)

Then i convert the Word Document into a PDF File and upload it to that website. (i don´t know if i´m allowed to say the name of it. But it´s totally legal. ^^)
I can choose from Hardcover, to the paper style and some other nice options.

And i made the Front and the Back Page myself. :3

i´ve payed 7,35€ (about 8 Dollar) including 2,95€ dispatch. The awesome thing about that site is, that this is a single Book price. I CAN order a bunch of these or i can publish it with an ISBN, but of course i´m not doing that. :D

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Post by dbgtFO » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:49 pm

LittleGreen wrote:@dbgtFO
Wich mini chapter is that? And what´s the name of it? :) To bad i didn´t know that! But i could add it in future Volumes. ^^
Here: http://www.kanzenshuu.com/manga/spin-of ... all-super/

Go all the way down and there it is.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by LittleGreen » Sat Apr 02, 2016 5:03 pm

@dbgtFO
Ahh i didn´t even know that was a thing. xD
Thanks a lot! :)

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by sangofe » Sun Apr 03, 2016 2:46 am

LittleGreen wrote:@dbgtFO
Ahh i didn´t even know that was a thing. xD
Thanks a lot! :)
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