"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Jun 25, 2015 7:15 am

Heroes website updated with the V-Jump content. We we have our first look at the Kaioshin avatars in their proper colors:

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As well as the DBO inspired Time Breaker Majin grunts. Though I don't know if they have names or not (at least not visible here anyway):

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Post by BlazingBarrrager » Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:42 am

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So in conclusion the reason why "I" and any fan of the SS4 form wants the saiyan avatars to get the form is because the form is awesome and nobody can deny it when compare to what we have now.
I'm a huge fan of the Super Saiyan 4 transformation and I don't want the avatars to get it and water it down. You do not speak for me, for the fans, for Dimps, or anyone else for that matter. Speak for yourself, voice your own opinions and stop speaking in behalf of others.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Heroes website updated with the V-Jump content. We we have our first look at the Kaioshin avatars in their proper colors:

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As well as the DBO inspired Time Breaker Majin grunts. Though I don't know if they have names or not (at least not visible here anyway):

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Can't help but wonder what their next avatar idea will be. XD

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Post by GoldLiger » Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:42 am

DNA wrote:
So in conclusion the reason why "I" and any fan of the SS4 form wants the saiyan avatars to get the form is because the form is awesome and nobody can deny it when compare to what we have now.
I'm a huge fan of the Super Saiyan 4 transformation and I don't want the avatars to get it and water it down. You do not speak for me, for the fans, for Dimps, or anyone else for that matter. Speak for yourself, voice your own opinions and stop speaking in behalf of others.
So when the day comes when the saiyan avatars get SS4 transformation I DON'T want to see you write that you are excited or whatnot. If it happens the most you can say is "Okay".
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Post by BlazingBarrrager » Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:46 am

GoldLiger wrote:
DNA wrote:
So in conclusion the reason why "I" and any fan of the SS4 form wants the saiyan avatars to get the form is because the form is awesome and nobody can deny it when compare to what we have now.
I'm a huge fan of the Super Saiyan 4 transformation and I don't want the avatars to get it and water it down. You do not speak for me, for the fans, for Dimps, or anyone else for that matter. Speak for yourself, voice your own opinions and stop speaking in behalf of others.
So when the day comes when the saiyan avatars get SS4 transformation I DON'T want to see you write that you are excited or whatnot. If it happens the most you can say is "Okay".
That wasn't the point of his post. The point was that you're assuming everyone shares the same train of thought as you do and speak as such. Obviously that's not how it works, especially since I flat out stated that I greatly dislike SSJ4. I also happen to be liking the new forms we got from the last two movies, though not to the degree as the original 3 SSJ forms. Regardless, I don't want to see anymore transformations for the Saiyan avatars aside from the possible Unlock Potential.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Heroes" On-Going Discussion Thread

Post by DNA » Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:47 am

GoldLiger wrote:So when the day comes when the saiyan avatars get SS4 transformation I DON'T want to see you write that you are excited or whatnot. If it happens the most you can say is "Okay".
You do not get to say what I am entitled to write. You are coming very close to abuse. I will respond in whatever manner I see fit and I reserve my right to change my opinion. Back the fuck off dude.

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Post by VegettoEX » Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:51 am

DNA wrote:You do not get to say what I am entitled to write. You are coming very close to abuse. I will respond in whatever manner I see fit and I reserve my right to change my opinion. Back the fuck off dude.
I don't condone the tone in response here (in fact, it's pretty unacceptable), but the content is accurate.

People are entitled to like whatever they like, and they're entitled to change their opinions. The whole way through they're also entitled to express those opinions.

GoldLiger, you are walking a fine line as it is. I would highly recommend you take a step back and reevaluate what it is you're looking to get out of your time here, because at this rate it's not going to last much longer.
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Post by Rukura » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:48 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:As well as the DBO inspired Time Breaker Majin grunts. Though I don't know if they have names or not (at least not visible here anyway):

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It's showing both sides as "Earth's Warriors' side" and "Dark Makai army's side". Whatever that means :| The "dark" part is just a generic term for dark or darkness, and may not be part of any name they're giving them (unless it is). While it does use the "Makai" term, they really do look like Majin with Mira's clothes.

Then again, they really remind me of Baby. They could be more androids Towa created (possibly evil avatars? Is that a thing yet?) that they're coining as being part of this "Dark Makai army"...though I figure "Makai army" already sounds like villains, as much as it needs to.
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Post by GoldLiger » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:55 pm

VegettoEX wrote:
DNA wrote:You do not get to say what I am entitled to write. You are coming very close to abuse. I will respond in whatever manner I see fit and I reserve my right to change my opinion. Back the fuck off dude.
I don't condone the tone in response, but the content is accurate.

People are entitled to like whatever they like, and they're entitled to change their opinions. The whole way through they're also entitled to express those opinions.

GoldLiger, you are walking a fine line as it is. I would highly recommend you take a step back and reevaluate what it is you're looking to get out of your time here, because at this rate it's not going to last much longer.
I am trying to BE positive and give some hope to a possibility. I never cursed or put anyone down at all. So if you want to eliminate me for giving MY OPINION then do so and prove that YOU are against FREE SPEECH and thought. I am only hoping for something that MAY or MAY NOT happened. So if you want to the forums to be a controlled one then you will be seeing less and less people here.
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Post by VegettoEX » Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:03 pm

GoldLiger wrote:I am trying to BE positive and give some hope to a possibility. I never cursed or put anyone down at all. So if you want to eliminate me for giving MY OPINION then do so and prove that YOU are against FREE SPEECH and thought. I am only hoping for something that MAY or MAY NOT happened. So if you want to the forums to be a controlled one then you will be seeing less and less people here.
You are not positive. You are consistently rude. Not cursing someone out does not give you a free pass to say whatever you want, and demand what others have a right to say in return.

You're rude, you're indignant about it, you're a consistent problem, you try to cover it up by saying "but it's just my opinion man!" while not seeming to have a grasp on what an opinion actually is, and we're not going to tolerate it.

You are 100% correct: you do not have free speech here. You are a guest. You agreed to a set of community guidelines (twice) before you registered. If you're not interested in following them, we're not interested in having you. The end.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Heroes" On-Going Discussion Thread

Post by DNA » Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:05 pm

GoldLiger wrote:I am trying to BE positive and give some hope to a possibility. I never cursed or put anyone down at all. So if you want to eliminate me for giving MY OPINION then do so and prove that YOU are against FREE SPEECH and thought. I am only hoping for something that MAY or MAY NOT happened. So if you want to the forums to be a controlled one then you will be seeing less and less people here.
You've been self-entitled, rude and antagonistic since day one; positive is definitely not a trait I would attribute to you. You have been putting people down, desperately trying to prove them wrong. You have been force-feeding your opinion to everyone and have been claiming it is 100% truth with no doubt because you (as you claim) know how Dimps works and thinks. You ask for free speech while you were denying mine. And as a final note, you might not be aware, but this forum has been working fine for more than 10 years and it has only been growing every time something new happens on the franchise. It's not going anywhere any time soon. If you are not happy, you are more than welcome to leave, god knows no one will stop you.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Jun 25, 2015 3:14 pm

Rukura wrote:It's showing both sides as "Earth's Warriors' side" and "Dark Makai army's side". Whatever that means :| The "dark" part is just a generic term for dark or darkness, and may not be part of any name they're giving them (unless it is). While it does use the "Makai" term, they really do look like Majin with Mira's clothes.

Then again, they really remind me of Baby. They could be more androids Towa created (possibly evil avatars? Is that a thing yet?) that they're coining as being part of this "Dark Makai army"...though I figure "Makai army" already sounds like villains, as much as it needs to.
Yeah I don't think they are going to be using the Time Breaker name, and seeing how they're calling this the Dark Demon Realm/Ankoku Makai Arc, it makes some sense to use it for the "organization" too. I was talking specifically about potential character names on the game's screen though, since sometimes the mission names say stuff like "Defeat the evil tyrant Freeza". We probably aren't that lucky and will have to wait until the mission releases and they get their character intros on the level when the fight starts. Even then though, it could just be something generic like "Makai Soldier". I am pretty sure they are Majins though. DBO has a feature where every once in a while when you were fighting mobs, a Majin Time Breaker would show up and challenge you (a different one depending on your level), and defeating it would give you tokens for a special NPC. These Heroes grunts use the same design as the lowest level Majin from that feature; it's the little girl on the bottom left (though Heroes gave them yellow eyes).

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Post by Rukura » Thu Jun 25, 2015 6:03 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Yeah I don't think they are going to be using the Time Breaker name, and seeing how they're calling this the Dark Demon Realm/Ankoku Makai Arc, it makes some sense to use it for the "organization" too. I was talking specifically about potential character names on the game's screen though, since sometimes the mission names say stuff like "Defeat the evil tyrant Freeza". We probably aren't that lucky and will have to wait until the mission releases and they get their character intros on the level when the fight starts. Even then though, it could just be something generic like "Makai Soldier". I am pretty sure they are Majins though. DBO has a feature where every once in a while when you were fighting mobs, a Majin Time Breaker would show up and challenge you (a different one depending on your level), and defeating it would give you tokens for a special NPC. These Heroes grunts use the same design as the lowest level Majin from that feature; it's the little girl on the bottom left (though Heroes gave them yellow eyes).
Oooh, got it. Didn't realize it was also the same name as the arc, that makes sense then. And yeah, you're right, totally the same as that image. Were they specifically refered to as "Time Breaker Majin" in DBO, though? Don't see why they wouldn't keep that, while as a part of this "Dark Demon Realm army". (Feels like I'm writting "Evil Badplace army" lol)
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Jun 25, 2015 6:21 pm

I honestly don't know what they were called. I've really wanted to look through the names of some of the non-fodder enemies in DBO. I have a version of the Korean data that my fiance can look at, but there isn't much point because it's just a giant list. I don't actually know who the names belong to. Likewise, I can't find any images of almost all the potentially interesting characters on the internet that are A) Korean, B) still keep the names above the enemies/NPCs, and C) legible. So there is a bit of a snag.
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Post by DNA » Sat Jun 27, 2015 11:41 am

So hey, I just finished the new and revamped villains chart. So here's the gist; as is evident, I separated villains from heroes, I've made more little tittles for the guys, and I organized it in a way that makes sense to me, not necessarily the way the game does it. I've also changed quite a few cards; before, I tried to use the very first card for that character, now I use the card I like the most. Also, I tried to organize it by order of appearance of the first element of a group in the timeline. I hope that makes sense.

So here's what's missing:
- Ma Junior Base
- Abo Base
- Cado Base
- Aka Merged
- Liang Xing Long Super
- Liu Xing Long Super
- San Xing Long Super
- Si Xing Long Super
There are no cards for these guys. Ma Junior is the exception since his card represents both Base and Giant.

I haven't added a space for Towa yet, but I'll do it as soon as she's out. Aside from her, if anyone's missing, let me know. Bear in mind, some guys are actually on the heroes side. Anyone that reverted by the end, even only for a bit, to side with the heroes, has been moved to the heroes chart. From the top of my head, that includes #17, #18, #16 and Si Xing Long.

So... yeah, enjoy I guess.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:57 am

Some images of GDM3's TV CM, which appears to already be airing (wasn't expecting it till Super). But it coincides with the Makai Invasion Arc and Super, so we get some Xeno URs and God URs.

Beerus card has a new attack: Hakaidama / Destruction Ball
Also noticed this. The bottom three are the Kaioshin avatars being introduced, and the top one looks to be the "Hero" Kaioshin's Class upgrade? It doesn't look crazy enough in the design to be the Super Class upgrade...

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Post by BlazingBarrrager » Tue Jun 30, 2015 1:37 pm

Oh hey we finally have a Kai using the Spirit Bomb. Took them long enough. XD

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Post by miguelnuva1 » Tue Jun 30, 2015 7:14 pm

GoldLiger wrote:
BlazingBarrrager wrote:Again, why do they need a new form? They have SSJ3, which is ridiculously powerful enough as it is. They don't need SSJ4 and they don't need God Form/SSJ God Form. If anything, giving them Unlock Potential would be the best route if Dimps decides to go with it. At least then all the other avatars would have a transformation to use as well.
Why? It is simple. It is to truly test the limits of creativity for Dimps' character designer. Just think on it, the one who can create a unique female SS4 will earn lots of $$$$$. Plus when they introduced SS3 females it really shows how unique it was from the male counterpart. I know you won't understand it because you are currently tired of the BS Toriyama is currently spewing out(Red is stronger than Blue because Red is a power color lol) but you need to go beyond what Toriyama can bring. A Female SSG or SSGSS is as easy as just making the characters hair and eyes red or blue. But a SS4 version of those six avatars would really test the creativity of those artists. And from there they can go work for Toei Animation and make new original characters for DB Super with the approval of Toriyama(even though I highly doubt it).

So in conclusion the reason why "I" and any fan of the SS4 form wants the saiyan avatars to get the form is because the form is awesome and nobody can deny it when compare to what we have now.
I highly doubt simply making a female SSJ4 is going to make some artist more money then what their making now, Also SSJ4 isn't any more original then SSJG or SSJGSS other then when it was originally created. All you do is add red fur and make the hair longer and black, females will most likely keeps their shirts as males keep their pants.

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Post by BlazingBarrrager » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:08 pm

miguelnuva1 wrote:I highly doubt simply making a female SSJ4 is going to make some artist more money then what their making now, Also SSJ4 isn't any more original then SSJG or SSJGSS other then when it was originally created. All you do is add red fur and make the hair longer and black, females will most likely keeps their shirts as males keep their pants.
This. Giving avatars SSJ4 would be "just as lazy as giving them God Form/SSJ God Form" as some of you put it.

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Post by Chuquita » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:36 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Some images of GDM3's TV CM, which appears to already be airing (wasn't expecting it till Super). But it coincides with the Makai Invasion Arc and Super, so we get some Xeno URs and God URs.

Beerus card has a new attack: Hakaidama / Destruction Ball
Also noticed this. The bottom three are the Kaioshin avatars being introduced, and the top one looks to be the "Hero" Kaioshin's Class upgrade? It doesn't look crazy enough in the design to be the Super Class upgrade...

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:39 pm

Does Bardock: Xeno have any story in DBHeroes? I know his story from DBO, but did he get one here, or he is just there like Super Paikuhan?
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