"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Ki Breaker]

I need to wait for the full thing to give better judgement, but I don't like what I hear. I doubt it can be worse than Chao Fan Music though, because that one was just trash

Seriously?!
Chao fan music was great!
The worst ending award goes to Usubeni, that was all kinds of bad..

[CJStriker_CBR]

Article and link to the new ending song, but it's region locked: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/20 ... ng/.121057

Here's the link with the song that shouldn't be lock:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_qxvMh ... e=youtu.be

Thanks for the Link ~~~~~ I like it, However what I think will earn it more Emotional and Justifiable review and option is;

1.) When if Piggy-Backs on the Events of the Special, 109-110, that will have a Major Impact on how many feel about it!

2.) When You combine that with the what and who they choose to show in the ending credits will effect it great!

That is the beauty of both Intros and Outros, they combine not only music and beautiful animations, but your emotions towards the events you are about to see and the events that just happen.

So For Me it is a Good Song, will have final judgement when the Special Happens!

[TheOne]

I think that's unprobable only because Vegeta will most likely catch up to Goku. Also, of Goku created the form by infusing KK and then Genkidama then the form would be temporary.

Right. I have a feeling Vegeta will eventually get this form too.

The manga doesn't have Vegeta too far behind Goku. The same has to be with the anime. The only difference is Goku uses SSBKK, which will become obsolete here soon against Jiren.

Says who? It isn't like Vegeta got Super Saiyan 3.

Nope. But he got SSB. He skipped ssj3. Which is obviously better.

If you honestly think they'll have Vegeta stay freakishly behind Goku, that's just silly. He didn't get SSBKK because it's exclusive to Goku. So unless this new transformation involves kaioken, there's no reason Vegeta can't do it as well. If not, then I'm sure he will develop something for himself.

[fadeddreams5]

I feel like the fight against Jiren could play out like this:

Goku fights Jiren and is overpowered.
Goku uses KKX20 and is overpowered.
Goku unloads the spirit bomb on him and that fails. This would be the end of 109.
Jiren does a thing that triggers Goku to transform.

There's still the terrible thing. If Goku takes energy from his team, I have a feeling Jiren will clean house when the Spirit Bomb fails. My bigger concern is that Goku will convince the other Universes to give him power to beat Jiren as a mutual foe and they'll be weakened when he endures the Spirit Bomb.

I know this is Super, so consistency isn't a thing, but the spirit bomb cannot work on Jiren. Jiren is a member of the pride troopers, the epitome of good guys. The spirit bomb can only harm people with an evil ki. Super's Goku might be dumb enough to forget that though, resulting in your prediction.

[Basako]

Maybe there is some menace in Earth and Yamcha casts the Genkidama and saves the world.

Joking, but it would be cool!

[Rusty Shackleford]

Goku's new form won't be enough for Jiren. Goku tries an IT Kamehameha but it only destroys Jiren's uniform, but his ass is exposed and Muten Roshi suspects steroid abuse, because he sees tiny syringe hole on Jiren's ass. Daishinkan makes Jiren pee in a bottle and analyzes results. Turns out Jiren is really roided to the extreme. "Not cool" Zenos say. "Let's fight again once you clean yourself in a clinic" says Goku, sarcastically, as Jiren is erased. Tournament is suspended due to steroid scandal, which has been streamed on GodTube. U6 and U7 survive. Zeno decide to have another tournament in the future with the remaining universes.

Hahaha. This is the best post I've seen on here in a long time.

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I like the new ED based on what we've heard of it.

[alakazam^]

I know this is Super, so consistency isn't a thing, but the spirit bomb cannot work on Jiren. Jiren is a member of the pride troopers, the epitome of good guys. The spirit bomb can only harm people with an evil ki. Super's Goku might be dumb enough to forget that though, resulting in your prediction.

It's funny you say Super isn't consistent and then you don't know that the Genkidama works on everyone.

[fadeddreams5]

I know this is Super, so consistency isn't a thing, but the spirit bomb cannot work on Jiren. Jiren is a member of the pride troopers, the epitome of good guys. The spirit bomb can only harm people with an evil ki. Super's Goku might be dumb enough to forget that though, resulting in your prediction.

It's funny you say Super isn't consistent and then you don't know that the Genkidama works on everyone.

Unless it's another case of mistranslation in English dubs and manga, Gohan is specifically told in the battle against Vegeta that he can bounce back the spirit bomb because he does not have an evil ki.

[SansrivaaL]

I'm not really sure Jiren's a good guy just yet, straight after Toppo said they were done playing heroes, the way he worded it sounded like their hero bs is a charade, for all we know the ep shows Jiren has some unpure thoughts and Goku notices that, like say a hobby of torture or something.

[Ki Breaker]

I'm not really sure Jiren's a good guy just yet, straight after Toppo said they were done playing heroes, the way he worded it sounded like their hero bs is a charade, for all we know the ep shows Jiren has some unpure thoughts and Goku notices that, like say a hobby of torture or something.

With Freeza there, whatever his torture hobby is will seem like child's play..
What he really needs is a hobby of making puns mid battle, now that's someone I would fire a spirit bomb at..

[alakazam^]

Unless it's another case of mistranslation in English dubs and manga, Gohan is specifically told in the battle against Vegeta that he can bounce back the spirit bomb because he does not have an evil ki.

Yes, that was said but had he not pushed it away what would have happened? Why did it destroy part of Namekku? Why could Boo hold his own against it?

It's just an attack, it works on everyone.

[emperior]

Goku's new form won't be enough for Jiren. Goku tries an IT Kamehameha but it only destroys Jiren's uniform, but his ass is exposed and Muten Roshi suspects steroid abuse, because he sees tiny syringe hole on Jiren's ass. Daishinkan makes Jiren pee in a bottle and analyzes results. Turns out Jiren is really roided to the extreme. "Not cool" Zenos say. "Let's fight again once you clean yourself in a clinic" says Goku, sarcastically, as Jiren is erased. Tournament is suspended due to steroid scandal, which has been streamed on GodTube. U6 and U7 survive. Zeno decide to have another tournament in the future with the remaining universes.

Hahaha. This is the best post I've seen on here in a long time.

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I like the new ED based on what we've heard of it.

I'm glad you liked it I find it very funny myself, when re-reading it.

[fadeddreams5]

Unless it's another case of mistranslation in English dubs and manga, Gohan is specifically told in the battle against Vegeta that he can bounce back the spirit bomb because he does not have an evil ki.

Yes, that was said but had he not pushed it away what would have happened? Why did it destroy part of Namekku? Why could Boo hold his own against it?

It's just an attack, it works on everyone.

Fair enough. It'd still be strange seeing Goku use it on a good guy though.

[Jigurashi]

Right. I have a feeling Vegeta will eventually get this form too.

The manga doesn't have Vegeta too far behind Goku. The same has to be with the anime. The only difference is Goku uses SSBKK, which will become obsolete here soon against Jiren.

Says who? It isn't like Vegeta got Super Saiyan 3.

Nope. But he got SSB. He skipped ssj3. Which is obviously better.

If you honestly think they'll have Vegeta stay freakishly behind Goku, that's just silly. He didn't get SSBKK because it's exclusive to Goku. So unless this new transformation involves kaioken, there's no reason Vegeta can't do it as well. If not, then I'm sure he will develop something for himself.

No, it really isn't. Vegeta has been "freakishly behind" Goku since around episode 30 when he and Goku trained for the U6 tournament since that's when Goku acquired SSBKK. That was over 70 episodes ago. Goku staying far above Vegeta isn't farfetched in the slightest. Vegeta likely will catch up, but it isn't going to surprise me one bit if the gap ends up quite large like it is right now.

[Noah]

A hunch but Goku might infuse the Kaioken with the Spirit Bomb.

Seriously where the heck Goku will get energy for the Spirit Bomb? They're on a Void for God's sake. I also thought he would absorb the technique much like he did against Super 13 in Movie 7, that would be cool.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

A hunch but Goku might infuse the Kaioken with the Spirit Bomb.

Seriously where the heck Goku will get energy for the Spirit Bomb? They're on a Void for God's sake. I also thought he would absorb the technique much like he did against Super 13 in Movie 7, that would be cool.

That's primarily my thinking he'll need to power it up, cuz otherwise it's gonna be weak as heck, so Kaioken comes to mind, makes sense if he's able to do with SSGSS, if SSGSSKKx20 doesn't take out Jiren then I doubt a presumed weak Spirit Bomb is gonna work so obviously there has to be something more to it. That's my line of thinking.

[SansrivaaL]

A hunch but Goku might infuse the Kaioken with the Spirit Bomb.

Seriously where the heck Goku will get energy for the Spirit Bomb? They're on a Void for God's sake. I also thought he would absorb the technique much like he did against Super 13 in Movie 7, that would be cool.

That's primarily my thinking he'll need to power it up, cuz otherwise it's gonna be weak as heck, so Kaioken comes to mind, makes sense if he's able to do with SSGSS, if SSGSSKKx20 doesn't take out Jiren then I doubt a presumed weak Spirit Bomb is gonna work so obviously there has to be something more to it. That's my line of thinking.

Beerus gives his energy to Goku, killing 2 birds with one stone.

[BlueBasilisk]

Fair enough. It'd still be strange seeing Goku use it on a good guy though.

The Spirit Bomb had a lot of knockback when it was used on Vegeta, Frieza and Buu. That might be Goku's gambit: use the force of the attack to shove Jiren right out of the ring.

When it fails, I'd really like for Goku to finally be hit by the full weight of the situation. His family, friends and universe are on the line thanks to situation he instigated and he's faced with a foe who can survive the best Goku can throw at him. That would be a perfect trigger for his transformation and quite honestly I'd love to see Jiren crush that weird flippant attitude Goku has had in this arc.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Seriously where the heck Goku will get energy for the Spirit Bomb? They're on a Void for God's sake. I also thought he would absorb the technique much like he did against Super 13 in Movie 7, that would be cool.

That's primarily my thinking he'll need to power it up, cuz otherwise it's gonna be weak as heck, so Kaioken comes to mind, makes sense if he's able to do with SSGSS, if SSGSSKKx20 doesn't take out Jiren then I doubt a presumed weak Spirit Bomb is gonna work so obviously there has to be something more to it. That's my line of thinking.

Beerus gives his energy to Goku, killing 2 birds with one stone.

Would that really work, though? I know he's a God but wouldn't it still be treated like 1 person giving normal energy? Also Beerus can't help against the rules so Goku would have to involuntarily take it from him.

[Kanassa]

I haven't liked any of the ED from Super up until now tbh. I don't know if I listened to each and everyone, but what I did catch, I didn't enjoy much

Ironically, I still love Zenkai Power most of all.

I liked the first ending, but imho nothing compares to the ending to OG Dragon Ball.

Eh... Dragon Ball's ending was okay.