"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:38 pm

I really don't like this thing the fandom does by grouping people as X fanboy. Look we're all fans of the franchise and that's it. All these groupings are nonsensical and people literally take the show too seriously, it's just a cartoon at the end of the day these characters are just fiction...

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Post by sintzu » Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:54 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:I really don't like this thing the fandom does by grouping people as X fanboy. Look we're all fans of the franchise and that's it. All these groupings are nonsensical and people literally take the show too seriously, it's just a cartoon at the end of the day these characters are just fiction...
This.

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:24 pm

sintzu wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:I really don't like this thing the fandom does by grouping people as X fanboy. Look we're all fans of the franchise and that's it. All these groupings are nonsensical and people literally take the show too seriously, it's just a cartoon at the end of the day these characters are just fiction...
This.

We all have our favorite characters, arcs, series, dubs, etc. but at the end of the day we love Dragon Ball no matter our preference. I hope more fans will understand this and not look down on ceetain fans for their preference.
Whether we like it or not these groups exist in every form of fiction and non-fiction and are probably responsible for for more than half of all discussion that exists.

This includes everything from sports teams and politics to anime, comics and video games.

Overall people just like arguing.

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Post by sintzu » Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:44 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:People just like arguing.
That's perfectly fine. What I take issue with is grouping people into something and using it in a negative way. We've all done it (I do it sometimes without thinking) but hopefully it'll get less as time goes on and fans will understand that Vegeta 8), Piccolo :sick:, Kai :oops:, faulconer :wtf: fans, etc. I'm joking with the smilies are at the end of the day all fans of DB and that's what's important.
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Post by Yedis » Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:13 pm

Maybe I was too harsh in my wording, but anyone who doesn't think an early Vegeta elimination isn't going to elicit a strong reaction is just being naive.

There's a reason why he's being photoshopped into fake pics, no other character is. Not Gohan, Not Piccolo, not even Goku.

There's a reason why people have been trolling about the ending images. I just don't want to the same ole discussions.

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:20 pm

sintzu wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:People just like arguing.
That's perfectly fine. What I take issue with is grouping people into something and using it in a negative way. We've all done it (I do it sometimes without thinking) but hopefully it'll get less as time goes on and fans will understand that Vegeta 8), Piccolo :sick:, Kai :oops:, faulconer :wtf: fans, etc. I'm joking with the smilies are at the end of the day all fans of DB and that's what's important.
That is what I mean, people do it all the time without realising in real life and no one takes any notice but when people write it down it seems to have a different meaning when it shouldn't.

I just see it as a bit of fun that has happens all the time and to me it usually creates a more fun discussion instead of it being boring and serious all the time.

A perfect example for you is if Goku and Vegeta had another fight in the future, you would want it to be important to the story and be a good choreographed fight but deep down the thing you want the most is a Vegeta win. If Vegeta won you wouldn't mind speaking about it but without realising you will be annoying and triggering fans of Goku.

[spoiler]Vegeta will never win so you don't have to worry about this situation ever happening. :lol:[/spoiler]

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Post by Kanassa » Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:28 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:
[spoiler]Vegeta will never win so you don't have to worry about this situation ever happening. :lol:[/spoiler]
Uh, looking at all of their fights so far, the only fight that had a winner, Vegeta beat Goku.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:39 pm

Kanassa wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:
[spoiler]Vegeta will never win so you don't have to worry about this situation ever happening. :lol:[/spoiler]
Uh, looking at all of their fights so far, the only fight that had a winner, Vegeta beat Goku.
I was talking about in the future and Vegeta doesn't count them as wins.

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Post by sintzu » Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:53 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:Vegeta will never win so you don't have to worry about this situation ever happening. :lol:
At least he can fight Goku, unlike that Batman wannabe. :mrgreen:
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Post by Noah » Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:08 pm

Doctor. wrote:As someone whose least favorite character in the series is Gohan, I'll be extremely surprised AND disappointed if he's not somehow involved with the climax of the arc after all the build-up.
Kind of a little bit contradictory there, mate
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Post by kinisking » Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:40 pm

Yedis wrote:Maybe I was too harsh in my wording, but anyone who doesn't think an early Vegeta elimination isn't going to elicit a strong reaction is just being naive.

There's a reason why he's being photoshopped into fake pics, no other character is. Not Gohan, Not Piccolo, not even Goku.

There's a reason why people have been trolling about the ending images. I just don't want to the same ole discussions.
He's being photoshopped because of the ending theory. A lot of people genuinely expect him to go out next. Not that your argument is incorrect, that's just a bad example.
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Post by Doctor. » Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:45 pm

Noah wrote:
Doctor. wrote:As someone whose least favorite character in the series is Gohan, I'll be extremely surprised AND disappointed if he's not somehow involved with the climax of the arc after all the build-up.
Kind of a little bit contradictory there, mate
No, it's not. It's putting the quality story ahead of everything else. The story has hyped up Gohan, so if they do nothing with him, it would have all been useless. I like to imagine nobody is petty enough to hate a character so much to the point of wanting the story to worsen in exchange for having his character perform badly, but some users here like to prove me wrong (not you).

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Post by Simere » Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:49 pm

kinisking wrote:
Yedis wrote:Maybe I was too harsh in my wording, but anyone who doesn't think an early Vegeta elimination isn't going to elicit a strong reaction is just being naive.

There's a reason why he's being photoshopped into fake pics, no other character is. Not Gohan, Not Piccolo, not even Goku.

There's a reason why people have been trolling about the ending images. I just don't want to the same ole discussions.
He's being photoshopped because of the ending theory. A lot of people genuinely expect him to go out next. Not that your argument is incorrect, that's just a bad example.
Plus the spoiler has people primed to be susceptible to fakes. Same reason people post fake leaks around the time real leaks tend to be coming out.

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Post by Noah » Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:54 pm

Doctor. wrote:The story has hyped up Gohan, so if they do nothing with him, it would have all been useless.
So you may think the same about Krillin, then?
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Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:41 pm

Doctor. wrote:
Noah wrote:
Doctor. wrote:As someone whose least favorite character in the series is Gohan, I'll be extremely surprised AND disappointed if he's not somehow involved with the climax of the arc after all the build-up.
Kind of a little bit contradictory there, mate
No, it's not. It's putting the quality story ahead of everything else. The story has hyped up Gohan, so if they do nothing with him, it would have all been useless. I like to imagine nobody is petty enough to hate a character so much to the point of wanting the story to worsen in exchange for having his character perform badly, but some users here like to prove me wrong (not you).
Indeed. I fucking hate Ribriane, but it wouldn't make sense for her to just randomly be tossed off. She's been hyped so they have to do something more with her, even if I dislike her. Same with the likes of Kale and Cauliflowa who are hit and miss with me depending on the episode.
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Post by Cursemark505 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:52 pm

Doctor. wrote:
Noah wrote:
Doctor. wrote:As someone whose least favorite character in the series is Gohan, I'll be extremely surprised AND disappointed if he's not somehow involved with the climax of the arc after all the build-up.
Kind of a little bit contradictory there, mate
No, it's not. It's putting the quality story ahead of everything else. The story has hyped up Gohan, so if they do nothing with him, it would have all been useless. I like to imagine nobody is petty enough to hate a character so much to the point of wanting the story to worsen in exchange for having his character perform badly, but some users here like to prove me wrong (not you).
Noah is right. You're making no sense.

1) If Gohan is your least favorite character, why would you be disappointed? At best you should be neutral towards his participation in the tournament.

2) What does the quality of the story have to do with you assuming that he'll be involved with the climax of the arc? The main event of the tournament has been hyped to be Goku vs Jiren. Literally nothing about Gohan has been hyped up in regards to the climax. The only things that were hyped up about him was that he would regain his strength and he would be a great asset. It hasn't been useless. He's gotten rid of troublesome opponents and will continue to do so.

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Post by perucho1990 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:46 pm

Like the Main Event of the U6 arc was hyped to be Goku vs Hit but at the end it was Hit vs Monaca, or the Trunks Arc main event being Vegetto vs Merged Zamasu only to be Zeno vs Merged Zamasu.

Goku new transformation might be temporarily like when he had SSJB+KKX10 in the U6 Arc imo.

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Post by Sandubadear » Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:07 pm

perucho1990 wrote:Like the Main Event of the U6 arc was hyped to be Goku vs Hit but at the end it was Hit vs Monaca, or the Trunks Arc main event being Vegetto vs Merged Zamasu only to be Zeno vs Merged Zamasu.

Goku new transformation might be temporarily like when he had SSJB+KKX10 in the U6 Arc imo.
Main event is not the same as the final fight/kill.

The main event on the Namek arc was SSJ Goku vs Freeza, not SSJ Trunks killing Freeza.
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dbzfan7 wrote:
Doctor. wrote:
Noah wrote:
Kind of a little bit contradictory there, mate
No, it's not. It's putting the quality story ahead of everything else. The story has hyped up Gohan, so if they do nothing with him, it would have all been useless. I like to imagine nobody is petty enough to hate a character so much to the point of wanting the story to worsen in exchange for having his character perform badly, but some users here like to prove me wrong (not you).
Indeed. I fucking hate Ribriane, but it wouldn't make sense for her to just randomly be tossed off. She's been hyped so they have to do something more with her, even if I dislike her. Same with the likes of Kale and Cauliflowa who are hit and miss with me depending on the episode.
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Post by TheOne » Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:25 pm

Yedis wrote:Maybe I was too harsh in my wording, but anyone who doesn't think an early Vegeta elimination isn't going to elicit a strong reaction is just being naive.

There's a reason why he's being photoshopped into fake pics, no other character is. Not Gohan, Not Piccolo, not even Goku.

There's a reason why people have been trolling about the ending images. I just don't want to the same ole discussions.
If you think Vegeta is getting an early KO because of a few ridiculous theories and a photoshopped photo, you're part of the problem.

People can't accept the fact that Krillin and Tien were knocked out because they were two of the three transparently weakest fighters on the team. Why Roshi is still on the stage is way beyond me.
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