"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[BlueBasilisk]

Frost wouldn't know about that so he could think he's done only for him to break out and kick his sorry behind.

Or the writers will forget a seal is needed and just leave Vegeta in there.

Considering they just showed Roshi sealing the Mafuba in the episode before last, they aren't gonna magically forget how the Mafuba works. I think the lack of seal is what the summaries meant when "Frost seemed to have trapped Vegeta but...".

Considering that Frost is REDIRECTING Roshi's mafuuba, Roshi orbably already has another bottle out with the seal on it.

He does. In the NEP you can see Frost with a bottle at his feet that has the seal written right on it in black ink. The bottle Roshi used in 105 had the same.

[Simere]

It's possible Frost won't realize you need to cork the bottle, but either way, even if Vegeta somehow gets out it doesn't seem like he'll be delivering any retribution from the sound of 108.

[Kinokima]

Yeah it seems very likely that Vegeta will either figure out a way or already knows a way to break out of the seal.

I am not caught up so I didn't know the seal was already on the bottle but it would just have been horribly bad writing if the whole point of the scene was Vegeta is trapped but its okay because they forgot the seal. I mean I know Dragon Ball is not high drama but what would even be the point of that? The audience already knows when it's not sealed the character can escape so there is no drama.

Even if he doesn't escape I would expect someone else to break him out in dramatic fashion. Although Vegeta breaking out himself would be much more satisfying. And Vegeta breaking out doesn't mean he won anything it just would give him a great scene even if Goku or Gohan end up winning it all.

Although I wish I wasn't so spoiled because then it would have been really dramatic but I guess being so many episodes behind its inevitable.

It's possible Frost won't realize you need to cork the bottle, but either way, even if Vegeta somehow gets out it doesn't seem like he'll be delivering any retribution from the sound of 108.

Or they aren't giving everything away in the synopsis or he breaks out in a later episode.

[BlueBasilisk]

Going back to this:
[spoiler][/spoiler]

I can't really fathom how this is going to work. Is Frieza teaming up with Frost the betrayal? It shouldn't be since U6 and U7 keep teaming up at various times. Frost has reason to dislike Vegeta and Cabba since Cabba's testimony is what put Frost on the run, but at the same time I can't really see him betraying his own universe simply for the fact that he's portrayed as a greedy goblin driven by profit and not a total fruitcake like Frieza and his Supreme Kai is apparently offering him money and a full pardon. Unless the preview for the special is lying about Universes 6 and 7 having 8 people each going into 109, they don't successfully eliminate anyone on either team and they apparently don't break off to form #teamsamevoice (unless it carries on into 109 and they became a nuisance there). I'm sure it'll be explained in the episode but right now it's got me completely boggled.

[Simere]

Or they aren't giving everything away in the synopsis or he breaks out in a later episode.

Oh, you're right, it's a possibility they aren't giving everything away in a spoiler. Pretty feeble-minded of me not to consider that. Okay, after taking that into consideration, I'll revise my statement:

It's possible Frost won't realize you need to cork the bottle, but either way, even if Vegeta somehow gets out it doesn't seem like he'll be delivering any retribution from the sound of 108.

[Kinokima]

Or they aren't giving everything away in the synopsis or he breaks out in a later episode.

Oh, you're right, it's a possibility they aren't giving everything away in a spoiler. Pretty feeble-minded of me not to consider that. Okay, after taking that into consideration, I'll revise my statement:

It's possible Frost won't realize you need to cork the bottle, but either way, even if Vegeta somehow gets out it doesn't seem like he'll be delivering any retribution from the sound of 108.

It's not a spoiler of the entire episode it's an episode synopsis. Not a play by play of everything that happens in the episode. Episode 108 doesn't mention Vegeta at all so we have no clue what will happen to him later.

Also again I really doubt Frost forgot to "cork the bottle" is why Vegeta breaks out. That is pretty much the same as "forgot the seal"? What would be the point of that dramatically? The but is there to tell you there is more to the episode synopsis then meets the eye.

[sintzu]

The seal is on the bottle,we saw that on the Roshi episode,seriously the people that say Toei/Toriyama forgot are the ones who forget something after they saw it.

If they could have the seal on whatever they trap someone in, why didn't they do it with Zamasu's instead of separating them which led Goku to forgetting the seal ?

[CJStriker_CBR]

108 Scan ( Ken Xyro translation )
Goddess Helles praises Goku for the second time in a row. A new Romance is born?
[spoiler][/spoiler]

Ribrianne x Helles OTP!

Well she had to settle for someone else now that Gohan x Jemeze is a thing.

That Funny part of the is if Chi-Chi ever found out that another lady was laying even one eye on Goku the Level of Steam out of her head Angry would put even the GoD's To Fear!!!

Towards the info from the spoilers at least now we got a reasoning why the Fight going to happen and it is an interesting one at that, Ribrianne showing she can be just as good as Goku in the Eyes of Her own GoD and Universe, that is an interesting concept if written with good and caring skill.

I am hoping this has some Character Development between Universe 2 and 7 to happen too. While want a Good and High Level battle, any development of characters between each other like Ribrianne and Goku getting to know each other and even if the fight started off on being rival hook, could end up as them gaining some form of respect for one another even on a fighting or small bases.

IMO it will be key in moving forward for Both Universes after the ToP Arc is over.

[Kinokima]

The seal is on the bottle,we saw that on the Roshi episode,seriously the people that say Toei/Toriyama forgot are the ones who forget something after they saw it.

If they could have the seal on whatever they trap someone in, why didn't they do it with Zamasu's instead of separating them which led Goku to forgetting the seal ?

Well perhaps because that happened Master Roshi realized he needed to be prepared and have the seal on the Jar ahead of time.

But even more simply because they didn't have a jar like that at the time. The writers didn't want the story to end with Zamasu sealed away. Perhaps the writers thought that was too easy so they had Goku forget the seal. Just because you can have a jar with the seal ahead of time doesn't mean that one has to always exist. Now in this instance one does exist.


Edit: Also to add dramatic wise there is a major difference between Zamasu and Vegeta getting sealed.

Personally I thought Goku forgetting the seal in that scene was not the best writing either but the point was to add dramatic tension for Bulma, Trunks and Mai. We are worried about them because we know Zamasu can escape.
When Vegeta is sealed the worry should turn to him. If there is no seal then there is nothing for the audience to care about. It's a matter of perspective.

[Hawk9211]

Ribrianne x Helles OTP!

Well she had to settle for someone else now that Gohan x Jemeze is a thing.

That Funny part of the is if Chi-Chi ever found out that another lady was laying even one eye on Goku the Level of Steam out of her head Angry would put even the GoD's To Fear!!!

Towards the info from the spoilers at least now we got a reasoning why the Fight going to happen and it is an interesting one at that, Ribrianne showing she can be just as good as Goku in the Eyes of Her own GoD and Universe, that is an interesting concept if written with good and caring skill.

I am hoping this has some Character Development between Universe 2 and 7 to happen too. While want a Good and High Level battle, any development of characters between each other like Ribrianne and Goku getting to know each other and even if the fight started off on being rival hook, could end up as them gaining some form of respect for one another even on a fighting or small bases.

IMO it will be key in moving forward for Both Universes after the ToP Arc is over.

Just as I thought ribrianne is bullshitting her way to possibly god tier.I am kinda disappointed that they have turned jimizu into a one trick pony now my only wish about this fight is to see some magical girl hax.

[Simere]

It's not a spoiler of the entire episode it's an episode synopsis. Not a play by play of everything that happens in the episode. Episode 108 doesn't mention Vegeta at all so we have no clue what will happen to him later.

Also again I really doubt Frost forgot to "cork the bottle" is why Vegeta breaks out. That is pretty much the same as "forgot the seal"? What would be the point of that dramatically? The but is there to tell you there is more to the episode synopsis then meets the eye.

Seems. Sounds. If bolding them wasn't enough, I guess I have to explain them: they're qualifying words used to indicate uncertainty of knowledge; that other possibilities than the one(s) being spoken of can or do exist.

I care less about how Vegeta escapes the Mafuba(as indicated by "either way") than the idea that he gets (immediate) payback on Frost. That Vegeta "breaks out and kicks his sorry behind" is ill-founded based on what we know—and, again, I don't need to be reminded we don't know everything. 108 might not mention Vegeta, but it does mention Frost. Why would Freeza choose that moment to announce their betrayal if Frost has just received a significant beatdown from anybody, not just Vegeta? I can think of reasons for it, but they all strike me as less likely than Frost still being up and kicking.

If there is a beatdown coming, it won't be in 107, or the first half of 108. As the sound of it seems to me.

[Whatever]

The seal is on the bottle,we saw that on the Roshi episode,seriously the people that say Toei/Toriyama forgot are the ones who forget something after they saw it.

If they could have the seal on whatever they trap someone in, why didn't they do it with Zamasu's instead of separating them which led Goku to forgetting the seal ?

Because Goku left without the seal and Bulma forgot to get one as well.

[HeroR]

The seal is on the bottle,we saw that on the Roshi episode,seriously the people that say Toei/Toriyama forgot are the ones who forget something after they saw it.

If they could have the seal on whatever they trap someone in, why didn't they do it with Zamasu's instead of separating them which led Goku to forgetting the seal ?

Because Goku left while Roshi was preparing the seal and Bulma forgot to get one as well.

No he didn't. Goku talked to Roshi for several minutes and Roshi wished Goku luck. Roshi never gave Goku the seal nor did Goku just leave after his training was finish.

[namekiansaiyan]

I still say Vegeta gets trap, the bottle gets lost somehow, and Vegeta is one of the people counted in the end since he's still technically in the ring.

That would definitely be a very Toriyama thing to do. Veggie fans can rejoic Vegeta goes the distance.

You know they wouldn't accept that.


If they did, they would know Vegeta has more wins in super than Goku.

I would like for Vegeta to get sealed and the bottle goes missing and during the Goku vs Jiren fight Goku actually slips on it and knocks Vegeta out of the ring

[Kinokima]

It's not a spoiler of the entire episode it's an episode synopsis. Not a play by play of everything that happens in the episode. Episode 108 doesn't mention Vegeta at all so we have no clue what will happen to him later.

Also again I really doubt Frost forgot to "cork the bottle" is why Vegeta breaks out. That is pretty much the same as "forgot the seal"? What would be the point of that dramatically? The but is there to tell you there is more to the episode synopsis then meets the eye.

Seems. Sounds. If bolding them wasn't enough, I guess I have to explain them: they're qualifying words used to indicate uncertainty of knowledge; that other possibilities than the one(s) being spoken of can or do exist.

I care less about how Vegeta escapes the Mafuba(as indicated by "either way") than the idea that he gets (immediate) payback on Frost. That Vegeta "breaks out and kicks his sorry behind" is ill-founded based on what we know—and, again, I don't need to be reminded we don't know everything. 108 might not mention Vegeta, but it does mention Frost. Why would Freeza choose that moment to announce their betrayal if Frost has just received a significant beatdown from anybody, not just Vegeta? I can think of reasons for it, but they all strike me as less likely than Frost still being up and kicking.

If there is a beatdown coming, it won't be in 107, or the first half of 108. As the sound of it seems to me.

Yes I completely got that you said "seems". Not a single person in this thread knows exactly what is going to happen we are all just theorizing based on the information that we are given. I was just disagreeing with you based on the same information. To me what is mentioned in 108 is too little to go on to theorize what is or isn't going to happen in that episode. I wasn't trying to say that you personally are 100% sure of what is going to happen.

Anyways perhaps we don't completely disagree after all. Because my point was just because Vegeta wasn't mentioned in 108 doesn't mean something won't happen in a later episode. Or it does happen in 108 but we can't tell because we lack information. My whole point was the synopsis itself is actually very vague not that you are wrong about Frost & Freeza (although I do think you are wrong about the cork as I explained above).


Edit: And also my whole point about Vegeta escaping the Mafuba has nothing to do with beating Frost. He may or may not be the one to beat Frost. Perhaps Frost will already be taken down by the time he escapes by someone else (like Gohan). And yes I think it's likely that if Vegeta escapes it may not be immediately after he is sealed. If Vegeta escapes from the sealed Mafuba I think that would be dramatic enough that it wouldn't matter that he isn't the one to beat Frost (especially since we know he can already easily do this in a fair fight).

[Totamo]

If they could have the seal on whatever they trap someone in, why didn't they do it with Zamasu's instead of separating them which led Goku to forgetting the seal ?

Because Goku left while Roshi was preparing the seal and Bulma forgot to get one as well.

No he didn't. Goku talked to Roshi for several minutes and Roshi wished Goku luck. Roshi never gave Goku the seal nor did Goku just leave after his training was finish.

In the anime, yes but in the manga, Goku grabbed the wrong one.


The point is, Goku made a mistake.

[CJStriker_CBR]

Well she had to settle for someone else now that Gohan x Jemeze is a thing.

That Funny part of the is if Chi-Chi ever found out that another lady was laying even one eye on Goku the Level of Steam out of her head Angry would put even the GoD's To Fear!!!

Towards the info from the spoilers at least now we got a reasoning why the Fight going to happen and it is an interesting one at that, Ribrianne showing she can be just as good as Goku in the Eyes of Her own GoD and Universe, that is an interesting concept if written with good and caring skill.

I am hoping this has some Character Development between Universe 2 and 7 to happen too. While want a Good and High Level battle, any development of characters between each other like Ribrianne and Goku getting to know each other and even if the fight started off on being rival hook, could end up as them gaining some form of respect for one another even on a fighting or small bases.

IMO it will be key in moving forward for Both Universes after the ToP Arc is over.

Just as I thought ribrianne is bullshitting her way to possibly god tier.I am kinda disappointed that they have turned jimizu into a one trick pony now my only wish about this fight is to see some magical girl hax.

I think we are judging Jimeze way to early to call him a One Trick Pony and even if that is his main move who cares cause if he is Good at it and it works why not, if it is your fighting style then you become the Best-at-What-You-Do!

As for Ribrianne, how is that BSing her way to God Tier, I don't get the point?! If you can explain further that be good.

As of Now the previews state it as Ribrianne wants to prove her worth to her Universe against Goku, nothing odd about that. That is what many warriors should want and Not let themselves become complacent with their present status if it seems challenged.

[Tombstone1988]

Recent minor spoilers talked about Helles... ugh. This means we're very likely going to have to deal with her same two poses again. I'm starting to think we may need to have a counter for how many times Super reuses her animations.

Other than that, not much has changed.

[Spider-Man]

Recent minor spoilers talked about Helles... ugh. This means we're very likely going to have to deal with her same two poses again. I'm starting to think we may need to have a counter for how many times Super reuses her animations.

Other than that, not much has changed.

Ugh I hate that posses could they be more creative with her poses,At this point this a meme for the studios.

[CJStriker_CBR]

Recent minor spoilers talked about Helles... ugh. This means we're very likely going to have to deal with her same two poses again. I'm starting to think we may need to have a counter for how many times Super reuses her animations.

Other than that, not much has changed.

Ugh I hate that posses could they be more creative with her poses,At this point this a meme for the studios.

LMAO ~~~ ~~~~Honestly, with NO Biased, Very Serious about that point here, No Biased towards GoD~Helles being from Universe 2;

Honestly GoD~Helles can be from Any of the other Universes as their GoD I still say this ~~~~~~ I Honestly & Seriously Don't get tired of the Poses and could watch her do those them as many times as she wants in an Episode and Never Get Bored of Them!

Seriously, How do you Lose-Out or Get-Tired when you are Watch a Beautiful Women making a Beautiful Poses even if it is the same Pose, again Being done by a Beautiful GODDESS that Look Like Cleopatra!?!

Honestly, I never got it, but that is just me, I am Proud of what I Like, am a Fan of and Support!