"Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

[THEGOKU]

I think the Whis idea is great but the reward would have to be something that each race can use but who knows maybe that can be a Saiyan exclusive. I was also reading up on Time Breaker Bardock and someone in here had mentioned that during the attack he is about to get hit with it doesn't have the same typical expression so I really have to believe that he is actually going to be in the game. I mean clearly Xenoverse is mixing in things from DBO and with the whole change the past concept I don't see why he wouldn't be in the game.

[Nightzus]

I think the Whis idea is great but the reward would have to be something that each race can use but who knows maybe that can be a Saiyan exclusive. I was also reading up on Time Breaker Bardock and someone in here had mentioned that during the attack he is about to get hit with it doesn't have the same typical expression so I really have to believe that he is actually going to be in the game. I mean clearly Xenoverse is mixing in things from DBO and with the whole change the past concept I don't see why he wouldn't be in the game.

That scene where Bardock's facial expression is more determined looks more like pointing towards the ability to change History than the inclusion of Time-Break Bardock. But as you said, so many not-so-subtle references are made to DBO, so who knows...

[Anime Kitten]

Maybe every race could have an exclusive master skillset. Complete a specific master's training and get at least 4 skills (unless they add more races).

Whis
-- Final Reward : Super Saiyan Blue (If you're a Saiyan of course)

Super Saiyan from the story. SS2 from Gohan. SS3 from Goku. SSG from the story. SSGSS (or SSB if you prefer) from Whis. SS4 from Old Kai or Kibito Kai. I dunno about other races though.

[TekTheNinja]

Maybe every race could have an exclusive master skillset. Complete a specific master's training and get at least 4 skills (unless they add more races).

Whis
-- Final Reward : Super Saiyan Blue (If you're a Saiyan of course)

Super Saiyan from the story. SS2 from Gohan. SS3 from Goku. SSG from the story. SSGSS (or SSB if you prefer) from Whis. SS4 from Old Kai or Kibito Kai. I dunno about other races though.

Getting race exclusive transformations from mentors would be kinda dumb.

"Here's your new power. THE LEGENDARY SUPER SAIYAN!"

"But I'm a Namekian"

"Oh... Sucks for you."

[Alruneia]

Maybe every race could have an exclusive master skillset. Complete a specific master's training and get at least 4 skills (unless they add more races).

Whis
-- Final Reward : Super Saiyan Blue (If you're a Saiyan of course)

Super Saiyan from the story. SS2 from Gohan. SS3 from Goku. SSG from the story. SSGSS (or SSB if you prefer) from Whis. SS4 from Old Kai or Kibito Kai. I dunno about other races though.

Well, if Dragon Ball Heroes could make up transformations for all of their races, then it should be possible for Xenoverse 2 to emulate that. A Golden powerup for Freeza's race and the red-eyed Namekian powerup to match Super Saiyan Blue is possible. For Majin characters, I'm not quite sure what they could do. I'd say a Super Buu form, but I'd rather have that be a character creation choice to begin with. And for Earthlings... I have no clue. I don't like the idea of outfit-only powerups that Heroes used, though.

[dualist]

Maybe every race could have an exclusive master skillset. Complete a specific master's training and get at least 4 skills (unless they add more races).

Whis
-- Final Reward : Super Saiyan Blue (If you're a Saiyan of course)

Super Saiyan from the story. SS2 from Gohan. SS3 from Goku. SSG from the story. SSGSS (or SSB if you prefer) from Whis. SS4 from Old Kai or Kibito Kai. I dunno about other races though.

Well, if Dragon Ball Heroes could make up transformations for all of their races, then it should be possible for Xenoverse 2 to emulate that. A Golden powerup for Freeza's race and the red-eyed Namekian powerup to match Super Saiyan Blue is possible. For Majin characters, I'm not quite sure what they could do. I'd say a Super Buu form, but I'd rather have that be a character creation choice to begin with. And for Earthlings... I have no clue. I don't like the idea of outfit-only powerups that Heroes used, though.

I think this is the best way to go. DIMPS developed Heroes and I don't see why they wouldn't go that rout. It's really the most logistical way to even out the races with transformations. It's a video game and should have some semblance of balance. I really hope that choose to go in this directions.

[Bullza]

Random question, did Toriyama do the character design for Demigra and the Supreme Kai of Time?

[SaiyaSith]

Random question, did Toriyama do the character design for Demigra and the Supreme Kai of Time?

They could have been unreleased characters from Dragon Ball Online before it abruptly closed, but we may never know. Toriyama didn't work on Xenoverse, he only signed off on it.

[Nejishiki]

I recall an older thread referenced Toriyama designed the Kaioshin of Time but I can not recall where to find it.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

He designed Trunks, Towa and Mira for Online. The Super History Book says that for Xenoverse, he only oversaw Demigra, Time Kaioshin and Toki Toki, and that his feedback is the reason the latter two look so different from their initial draft.

[Bullza]

Well I ask because Demigra has a really good character design and usually the ones not made Demigra you can easily tell were not done by done. So if it wasn't then it's one of the better non Toriyama designed characters.

[Grimlock]

He designed Trunks, Towa and Mira for Online. The Super History Book says that for Xenoverse, he only oversaw Demigra, Time Kaioshin and Toki Toki, and that his feedback is the reason the latter two look so different from their initial draft.

I saw your two topics related to Dragon Ball Online and none of them tell these pieces of information. So, could you please send me a source of Toriyama's involvement? Not that I'm doubting you, it's just that I'd like to see it. Also, will you update your Heroes stuff? I also would like to take some wallpapers and such.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Because there's nothing to properly source. All we have is a statement from Torishima Kazuhiko saying Toriyama worked on designs for Online for 5 years, but not who he worked on. It's beyond incredibly clear though that Toriyama was responsible for the designs of characters like Trunks, Towa, Mira and Fu by looking at the original art for them because none of the actual Online assets used match his style. Even the images that copied his art look off in comparison. (He did plenty of others too, like Piccolo, Dende, etc. They're not overly relevant to Xenoverse though, since they aren't seen.)

I had no intention of updating the Heroes download anymore.

[BlazingBarrrager]

I think this is the best way to go. DIMPS developed Heroes and I don't see why they wouldn't go that rout. It's really the most logistical way to even out the races with transformations. It's a video game and should have some semblance of balance. I really hope that choose to go in this directions.

I for one prefer the old transformations from XV. Just rework the system and it'll be good. Seriously SSJ was all Saiyan CaCs need. SSJ2 kinda pushed it, but at least it's reasonable to suspect. Going farther than just puts things into ridiculousness. Also Unlocked Potential is a fine "transformation" for other races. Seriously stop going into Heroes territory.

[Dbzfan94]

I think this is the best way to go. DIMPS developed Heroes and I don't see why they wouldn't go that rout. It's really the most logistical way to even out the races with transformations. It's a video game and should have some semblance of balance. I really hope that choose to go in this directions.

I for one prefer the old transformations from XV. Just rework the system and it'll be good. Seriously SSJ was all Saiyan CaCs need. SSJ2 kinda pushed it, but at least it's reasonable to suspect. Going farther than just puts things into ridiculousness. Also Unlocked Potential is a fine "transformation" for other races. Seriously stop going into Heroes territory.

Heroes is fine imho. Time Patrol Goten would be a welcome addition in my book.
Though I do agree about SSJ2 being unnecessary. Super Vegeta 1/2 even more so

[BlazingBarrrager]

I think this is the best way to go. DIMPS developed Heroes and I don't see why they wouldn't go that rout. It's really the most logistical way to even out the races with transformations. It's a video game and should have some semblance of balance. I really hope that choose to go in this directions.

I for one prefer the old transformations from XV. Just rework the system and it'll be good. Seriously SSJ was all Saiyan CaCs need. SSJ2 kinda pushed it, but at least it's reasonable to suspect. Going farther than just puts things into ridiculousness. Also Unlocked Potential is a fine "transformation" for other races. Seriously stop going into Heroes territory.

Heroes is fine imho. Time Patrol Goten would be a welcome addition in my book.
Though I do agree about SSJ2 being unnecessary. Super Vegeta 1/2 even more so

Super Vegeta shouldn't even exist. If Kaio-Ken boosts damage for all forms of attack, than so should SSJ. There was/is no need for a SSJ around a particular fighting style. Just keep the boosts equal and tagged to one SSJ form.

[EXBadguy]

Super Vegeta shouldn't even exist. If Kaio-Ken boosts damage for all forms of attack, than so should SSJ. There was/is no need for a SSJ around a particular fighting style. Just keep the boosts equal and tagged to one SSJ form.

Nah, I disagree with that. For me, I look at that as a form of uniqueness. Not every transformation has to have the same stats. The SSJ transformation being focused on melee, while Super Vegeta being focused on Ki is fine, I just wished it was called something else besides Super Vegeta. Hell, even Unlock Potential/Elder Kai Unlock Ability(I prefer to call it that due to nostaligia) should have unique traits instead of having all of the stats up. I mean, isn't that what fighting games do in general when it comes to power up modes?

[Anime Kitten]

Well, if Dragon Ball Heroes could make up transformations for all of their races, then it should be possible for Xenoverse 2 to emulate that. A Golden powerup for Freeza's race and the red-eyed Namekian powerup to match Super Saiyan Blue is possible. For Majin characters, I'm not quite sure what they could do. I'd say a Super Buu form, but I'd rather have that be a character creation choice to begin with. And for Earthlings... I have no clue. I don't like the idea of outfit-only powerups that Heroes used, though.

Yeah, the outfit thing is kinda dumb...
Either completely new transformations or Super Saiyan transformations for every race. Admit it, a gold Namekian would be awesome. Plus, that would clear up Super Saiyan Videl.

[Rinsankajugin]

Master Roshi has Serious and Super Serious transformations, give those to Earthlings.

It'd be like SSJ, except instead of spikey gold hair, your muscles get bigger.

[Alruneia]

Master Roshi has Serious and Super Serious transformations, give those to Earthlings.

It'd be like SSJ, except instead of spikey gold hair, your muscles get bigger.

Remember what happens when you go for buffness, though. USSJ Trunks vs Perfect Cell is a pretty big indicator.
Unless you want to go the Broly route and look super buff without losing any speed, which I'd find pretty odd.